P90 in SAF service mehz?
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hoho..had a hard time searching for it..Originally posted by Viper52:Thats the one Nathan! No.2 guy also has a suppressed P90
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Figured as much...thats why I didn't botherOriginally posted by NathanG5:hoho..had a hard time searching for it.. 
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safety issues. like mis-firing, some problem with trigerOriginally posted by NathanG5:so wat are the problem?
mechanism, plus the way the rounds are feed/chamber. -
hi, how you guys post pix??
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Check your PM mailbox in 5 mins...Originally posted by dlte:hi, how you guys post pix?? -
yea..think abt how the hell are the rounds chamber?Originally posted by dlte:safety issues. like mis-firing, some problem with triger
mechanism, plus the way the rounds are feed/chamber.
sound like a big problem to me...
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Beach landing.......Originally posted by NathanG5:cant see clearly..but i think its the 1st guy on the beach..--->
This is fun.......should be done at nite thou.......Boat training is fun...
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Originally posted by NathanG5:yea..think abt how the hell are the rounds chamber?
sound like a big problem to me...
btw..u fire P90 before?
P90 should be classify as PDW. from the pix you
will see the rounds need to be rotated before chambering.
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cool..wats a PDW?Originally posted by dlte:
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personal defence weapon. SG police getting some 6,000 PDW. evalaution's on going. question is, does the SPF need that much PDWs?
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lolz..good question...Originally posted by foga:personal defence weapon. SG police getting some 6,000 PDW. evalaution's on going. question is, does the SPF need that much PDWs?
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btw..wats dlte n foga vocation?
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few possibilites:
1. for the police that they are going to deploy at MRTS and
interchanges?
2. maybe more aquired for spare? armskote need extra arms rite...Originally posted by NathanG5:lolz..good question...
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i was in the infantry.Originally posted by NathanG5:btw..wats dlte n foga vocation?
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Personal Defence Weapon, something smaller thanOriginally posted by NathanG5:cool..wats a PDW?
full size assult rifle but bigger/powerful than a handgun and
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That's a big number of P90s... Who are they thinking of fitting with it? I would think that the MP7 is still going to give the P90 a good run for its money.
Anyway, for those who are interested,
5.7x28mm FN round (from a P90)
Muzzle vel.: 2346 fps
Proj. mass: total mass 31 grains
Proj. diameter: 0.224"
Sectional density: 0.088 lb/in2
Muzzle kinetic energy: 379 ft-lbs
4.6x30mm HK MP7 PDW round
Muzzle vel.: 2379 fps
Proj. mass: total mass 25 grains
Proj. diameter: 0.181"
Sectional density: 0.109 lb/in2
Muzzle kinetic energy: 312 ft-lbs
(Google is my God)
See that the Velocity is approximately a Rifle Round Velocity... They will penetrate standard Law-Enforcement Level Body Armour without any Plates... -
hmm... sidetrack a lil.
The new SSW isusing 5.56mm or 5.7mm?
got ppl say 5.7mm and some say 5.56mm.
As for the P90s, think 2002 NDP or 2001 NDP, the SOF rappel down the grandstand, using suppressed p90s. -
personal defence weapon. SG police getting some 6,000 PDW. evalaution's on going. question is, does the SPF need that much PDWs?
Actually, this isn't all, a friend back in my school-days in 1987, said that Singapore Police Force actually had V200 mounted with RBS-70s. -
this is the MP7
and the accessories
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can see during 2002 NDP wad.....it was quite clearly slung on a soldier's shoulder.....his face was covered though
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I like the MP7 myself. Looks really cool as a PDW. Though I am partial to the TMP.
The P90 has some of those issues resolved. Don't worry... SAF won't buy stuff for no reason.... okay maybe once in a while.. .haha. -
Actually,why did H&K bother to cummout wif the PDW?Got the gd old MP-5K gd enuff liaoz...and summore e calibre is also more standard.If SAF have P-90,tt means they sure to have a stash of Five-Sevens as well.But tt's juz my theory.Actually,I tink SAF deploy P-90 coz of its 50 round mag and the super high rate of hire.read tt its quite reliable,though i dun realli like e idea of the rounds havin to pass a turntable before going to the chamber.Too much mechanical components=more cock-ups.If they wanna use P-90,why not use the French F2000,or H&K G11?
Anyway,SPF i think their armoury can be compared to that of Hendon.Mebbe except dun haf those which can cause overkill like M203 or what.Last I saw,the have H&K G36K.Tt one is cool... -
MP5 are history..Originally posted by SpecOps87:Actually,why did H&K bother to cummout wif the PDW?Got the gd old MP-5K gd enuff liaoz...and summore e calibre is also more standard.If SAF have P-90,tt means they sure to have a stash of Five-Sevens as well.But tt's juz my theory.Actually,I tink SAF deploy P-90 coz of its 50 round mag and the super high rate of hire.read tt its quite reliable,though i dun realli like e idea of the rounds havin to pass a turntable before going to the chamber.Too much mechanical components=more cock-ups.If they wanna use P-90,why not use the French F2000,or H&K G11?
Anyway,SPF i think their armoury can be compared to that of Hendon.Mebbe except dun haf those which can cause overkill like M203 or what.Last I saw,the have H&K G36K.Tt one is cool... -
MP5 are history.. the MP7 are not the replacment. PDW isOriginally posted by SpecOps87:Actually,why did H&K bother to cummout wif the PDW?Got the gd old MP-5K gd enuff liaoz...and summore e calibre is also more standard.If SAF have P-90,tt means they sure to have a stash of Five-Sevens as well.But tt's juz my theory.Actually,I tink SAF deploy P-90 coz of its 50 round mag and the super high rate of hire.read tt its quite reliable,though i dun realli like e idea of the rounds havin to pass a turntable before going to the chamber.Too much mechanical components=more cock-ups.If they wanna use P-90,why not use the French F2000,or H&K G11?
Anyway,SPF i think their armoury can be compared to that of Hendon.Mebbe except dun haf those which can cause overkill like M203 or what.Last I saw,the have H&K G36K.Tt one is cool...
one that is between a SMG and a pistol.