Originally posted by Fairyland:Can a nuclear submarine give Singapore some 'depth'?
This will bring the nuclear sub out of the two roles mentioned in the article - nuclear deterrence and first strike.
Of course ours will have no nuclear weapons on board.
A submarine is most vulnerable when sufacing for refueling and replenishment.If there is enough food for a nuclear-sub to last 2yrs.We wouldn't see it for on surface for 2yrs but that is quite unlikely as ammo will use up quickly with the war intensify.Nuclear sub still need to surface often to rearm for next assault even with long energy and food!Originally posted by storywolf:There been research done, that show convenstional subs is more slient then nuclear ones. The advantage of nuclear sub is the endurance underwater.
However new feed cells in convenstional sub have make improvement, think countries like Singapore will still stay with convenstional sub.
Well sometime, all depend on how the sub is deploy, to see the need if it need to stay down how long. Not mean the longer the better.Originally posted by zenden9:A submarine is most vulnerable when sufacing for refueling and replenishment.If there is enough food for a nuclear-sub to last 2yrs.We wouldn't see it for on surface for 2yrs but that is quite unlikely as ammo will use up quickly with the war intensify.Nuclear sub still need to surface often to rearm for next assault even with long energy and food!
I say 'if ' in my thread.But in war time,there is no time for u to think abt wife,family,yr personal properties and sex.The only thing for a military personel to think of is yr own life when in action.How to not be the one sleep inside the coffin and all other thoughs comes in later when the action is over.Originally posted by ferret69:Food that will last 2 years? That's a hell of a proposition actually. Cite your source for this if you have any (the closest thing I can think of is a Mission to Mars). Being cooped up in a claustrophobic steel tube for even 6 months is something which stretches psychological endurance, try spending that amount of time in your house without leaving. If you don't choose your personnel carefully, you'd have a mutiny. What about the crews' spouse and kids? Are they supposed to remain single? What about sex? Even Nasa has voiced concerns about that particular thing for long range Mars missions. One idea has been to chemically neuter the space travellers but you can always say, crew can always masturbate right? These are very, very dicey topics and I think we all should be aware of them. I think we're a bit too limited with thinking of the weapons systems itself and not thinking too much about the human side of it.
Originally posted by storywolf:There been research done, that show convenstional subs is more slient then nuclear ones. The advantage of nuclear sub is the endurance underwater.
However new feed cells in convenstional sub have make improvement, think countries like Singapore will still stay with convenstional sub.
Our sub is just use to frighten folks only, usually folks will just tied up a fleet to look for sub, that it enable your other ships more freedom to do damage, more a mind issue.Originally posted by ferret69:As I understand it, diesel/electrics are more silent when running on electric cells. But after the cells run out, you'd have to run the diesels again to recharge, and that will make you as noisy as a nuke sub (correct me if i'm wrong)
It could be a moot point though because our (and any other) littoral waters are very noisy and it's a bit more difficult to detect and isolate a contact with the background noise than in open seas.
I think the best use of our submarines within our littoral waters is for reconaissance and as "mobile underwater mines" during war, setting up exclusion zones, staying in them and from which we can prosecute targets.
Originally posted by zenden9:I say 'if ' in my thread.But in war time,there is no time for u to think abt wife,family,yr personal properties and sex.The only thing for a military personel to think of is yr own life when in action.How to not be the one sleep inside the coffin and all other thoughs comes in later when the action is over.
Consider: What if DSRVs were used to conduct underway replenishment?Originally posted by zenden9:A submarine is most vulnerable when sufacing for refueling and replenishment.If there is enough food for a nuclear-sub to last 2yrs.We wouldn't see it for on surface for 2yrs but that is quite unlikely as ammo will use up quickly with the war intensify.Nuclear sub still need to surface often to rearm for next assault even with long energy and food!