It's small signature makes it hard to be detect by radar and visually!Originally posted by tooled_up:Hi all, how come no one mentioned the super cobra,
The USMC have been using them for donkey years...from vietnam to Operation iraqi freedom.
Something must be right, for the USMC to use them that long!!!care to enlighten anyone?
I heard longbow radar is not offered to RSAF,only the gunship itself!Originally posted by storywolf:RSAF chose the Boeing AH-64D and AH-64 Apache
Because it is better armoured then Tiger and super Cobra. Incorporating longbow radar, it offer tehcnology which the other still behind.
The hokum may be a tougher machine, but lost out in acuracy, technology. The problem face with tiger and hokum, will be long term supply and training ( manual may be in other language and inproperly translated )
Remember Isreal's Yum Kuppur war, the USA basic open their door, grab lots of stuff like skyhawks, missiles, and send them direct to isreal which is one factors which turn the war. Same apply here, if ever there is war and we need urgent re-supply, who else but the US can open the door to their hangers and let us grab what we want straight and fly without having to retrain pilots.
Sg order 8 longbow + 12 without long bow. Sg had recived the 8 with longbow radar in US. Sg can only bring back to Sg only after 2006, but due to Sg support of the recently war, Sg AH64D are going home Dec 2004.Originally posted by zenden9:I heard longbow radar is not offered to RSAF,only the gunship itself!
nope we got the LBOriginally posted by zenden9:I heard longbow radar is not offered to RSAF,only the gunship itself!
It's the Longbow radar that makes the difference from all the other attack chocks contenders.Originally posted by |-|05|:nope we got the LB
Its NEVER going to happen to us. We're effectively a 2nd rate US ally, and we don't have a huge, rich and powerful lobby speaking out for us ensuring we get billions of USD in military aid.Originally posted by storywolf:Remember Isreal's Yum Kuppur war, the USA basic open their door, grab lots of stuff like skyhawks, missiles, and send them direct to isreal which is one factors which turn the war. Same apply here, if ever there is war and we need urgent re-supply, who else but the US can open the door to their hangers and let us grab what we want straight and fly without having to retrain pilots.
UAV's!!!!and maybe our UH1's!Originally posted by Joe Black:However, I can offer another POV....
Getting Super Cobra might not be a bad idea if they are deployed like how the US Marines do theirs. Flying the super cobra as CAS aircraft where they lack a dedicated CAS plane like the USAF A-10 Warhogs.
I am thinking along the line that if RSAF can purchase another sqn of attack/recon choppers like the Super Cobras or Roovialks, they would just supplement the Apaches nicely. Apaches can do all the hide and seek thingy whereas the lighter way, more agile attack helos play the army support role or suppressing enemies.
However, I reckon Mindef will never consider such a thingy as Mindef cannot afford to have another attack helo in the fleet. The US Army essentially have both types though, although they are slowly phasing out the AH-1F and AH-1S. Perhaps Singapore could get them hee hee
The Longbow radar was officially annouced wad.....howcome u all talk like we dun have it liddat.....?Anyway while the US might open their stores to us they arent likely to give them to us like Israel got neither will we get the F/A22.No fully stealth plane will be sold anytime soon....Though it's interesting to note that Britian almost got some F117'sOriginally posted by storywolf:The chance of Singapore getting super cobra or another type of attack heli is no, as whatever saving in cost will be wasted in different in maintanance, spare and training which will end up more expensive.
To : Cutebug
Singapore usually have the habit of anouning part of the deals only to public, as a way of not to offend the neighbours. Usually they would buy more or better upgrade sliently. Like Apache case, after the initial announment, there is a separate deal for the longbow upgrade package and additional number of apache also. Usually if you keep up with defense news, the manufacturers themselves tends to leak out the news, of what is the add-on purchases.
To : Viper52
Don't underestimate the relationship between Singapore and US, there is a lot more then meet the eye. Note that we are sitting on 2 both major shipping straits in the world. Without it, basically it cut japan, korea which US have huge interest in. Just take a closer look at how our navy fleet is structured, and you will know the answer. If ever there is a war, the chances of US opening their warehouses door to us like what they did for Isreal, is very high, mainly to protect its own interest and earn our reserve $$$.