sg's lightweight artillery
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quote from page 130 of tim huxley's defending the lion city:
"It is understood that in 1998 MINDEF selected the British-designed Vickers Ultralightweight Field Howitzer (the choice of the US Marine Corps the previous year) and that as many as 105 of these weapons may be purchased."
haven't heard any news abt this since.
so did we really buy that airportable howitzer? or did we buy ST's LWSPH or something else, or nothing at all? -
It is a hush - hush matter.. Please do not probe anymore...
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Heh, not hush hush lah. I remember seeing those guns quite afew times in Pioneer magzine. Mini versions of our big arty guns, typically slung under a Super Puma or Chinook. For Guards units.
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oh that was eons ago...Originally posted by Langley:Heh, not hush hush lah. I remember seeing those guns quite afew times in Pioneer magzine. Mini versions of our big arty guns, typically slung under a Super Puma or Chinook. For Guards units.
right now, everything is under wraps... -
105mm LG guns ?
Originally posted by Langley:Heh, not hush hush lah. I remember seeing those guns quite a few times in Pioneer magzine. Mini versions of our big arty guns, typically slung under a Super Puma or Chinook. For Guards units. -
the official 105mm Field Gun/Howitzer is the French Giat 105mm Light Gun. That gun is French and not British.
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It is a hush - hush matter.. Please do not probe anymore...
Why don't you check facts before classifying every info as state secret. The 105mm LG gun information has been around for such a long time - Its french built by GIAT and used by the guards unit. -
Hmm.. its only an arty gun mah. Not as if we bought aircraft carrier or something. Why so hush hush?
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The 105mm is not a state secret... nor did he mention that it was...Originally posted by damienthedevil:it is a hush - hush matter.. Please do not probe anymore...
Why don't you check facts before classifying every info as state secret. The 105mm LG gun information has been around for such a long time - Its french built by GIAT and used by the guards unit. -
hey even if it was secret it's not secret anymore-- its in tim huxley for all to see. i'm sure someone can give more details without getting called up by MSD... right?
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We already have a short discussion on the Giat LG-1 more than a month ago.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=73052
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For info sake', all that is in Huxley's book is outdated by now.Originally posted by wd1:hey even if it was secret it's not secret anymore-- its in tim huxley for all to see. i'm sure someone can give more details without getting called up by MSD... right?
For consumption sake', the light arty that everyone seem to be talking about is deployed transformer style, really - no kidding. That's why is so hush-hush. Probably will only see it when war comes and some trigger happy war correspondent catches it in his/her sights -
I believe these light 105mm guns are for 21st Division. For RDF, under 21Div, I got a feeling it had are some at least 3 Guards regiments, 1 armoured regiment and some other Combat Engineer units for clearing sea obstacles.... I hope I have not leaked any state secrets...
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classified infor.
for ur eyes only
the actual deployment for the 105mm light guns are for the 21-gun salute during the annual national day parade.Originally posted by LAW1:I believe these light 105mm guns are for 21st Division. For RDF, under 21Div, I got a feeling it had are some at least 3 Guards regiments, 1 armoured regiment and some other Combat Engineer units for clearing sea obstacles.... I hope I have not leaked any state secrets... -
Hmmm.. Perhaps some corrections, the guns that are used for the 21-guns salute are the 25-pounder cermonial guns. Cheers...Originally posted by foga:classified infor. for ur eyes only
the actual deployment for the 105mm light guns are for the 21-gun salute during the annual national day parade. -
Yeah, the British 88s of WW2 fameOriginally posted by Slee981:Hmmm.. Perhaps some corrections, the guns that are used for the 21-guns salute are the 25-pounder cermonial guns. Cheers... -
opps, wat i meant is that they are the replacement for the 25-pounderOriginally posted by Slee981:Hmmm.. Perhaps some corrections, the guns that are used for the 21-guns salute are the 25-pounder cermonial guns. Cheers...
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You mean the German 88s, now don't you?Originally posted by panzerjager:Yeah, the British 88s of WW2 fame -
For christ's sakes, when you don't want the world to know about your uber-powerful top-secret weapon, you DO NOT exhibit it at a defence expo.Originally posted by Slee981:It is a hush - hush matter.. Please do not probe anymore...
ST's LWSPH was publicly displayed at AA 2000 if i remember the dang thing correctly.
Add to that, a model of something looking suspiciously like a LIGHT air transportable howitzer at the SAF Open HOUSE. -
The 25-pdrs were 88s to match the Germans' own, although answering too late in the warOriginally posted by Johnston:You mean the German 88s, now don't you? -
I tot these 105mms have been retired and replaced by 120mm mortars instead?
Anyone know if the LWSPH is using the FH gun or the M777 one?
Maybe it's hush hush because of patents issues? -
Any pics?
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Mortar will not be able to replace the 105 gun as it is short range.Originally posted by Fairyland:I tot these 105mms have been retired and replaced by 120mm mortars instead?
Anyone know if the LWSPH is using the FH gun or the M777 one?
Maybe it's hush hush because of patents issues?
Gun is for Div support & 120 mm Mortar is for Bridage level.
FH & M71 can not be LWSPH. M71 not the M71S already weight 9T do not talk about the FH series. -
Well, the 105mm LG1s are still being exhibited for visitors.Originally posted by Fairyland:I tot these 105mms have been retired and replaced by 120mm mortars instead?
Anyone know if the LWSPH is using the FH gun or the M777 one?
Maybe it's hush hush because of patents issues?
(but come to think of it, so is the M71).
You, i, and he, doesn't know anything about Mr LWSPH. Besides, neither the M71 nor FH88/2000 can be classed as a totally unique weapon.
That new Self propelled 120mm auto mortar on a bronco chassis... that's another matter though. -
Wait a minute......Originally posted by seachfun:Mortar will not be able to replace the 105 gun as it is short range.
Gun is for Div support & 120 mm Mortar is for Bridage level.
FH & M71 can not be LWSPH. M71 not the M71S already weight 9T do not talk about the FH series.
So..... we're talking about 120mm mortars providing fire support for the BRIGADE, while 105mm guns provide fire support for a DIVISION?
Then where do the 155mm guns go? Army level?
Carrying the train of thought to the ultimate level, what about 203mm howitzers, 300mm MLRS, and Naval gunfire?
Country level? Theater?
Im no Arty Offr, but it doesn't sound logical.
What does this mean?
FH & M71 can not be LWSPH. M71 not the M71S already weight 9T do not talk about the FH series