Which is the most LOBO camp/unit as a clerk?
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As above, is it in CMPB or MINDEF? Anyone knows?
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CMPB.......
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I thought a clerk is lobo enuff.... still wan to lobo somemore??
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sure as hell ain't mine.
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i gotta agree.... not all clerks have lobo life lor.... sme r plain lucky to get posted to CMPB or MINDEF, where they can get tot slack... well, clerk in an active unit sux... basically no diff from norm men, jus dat excuse certain physical exercise... also stay-in etc.... plus office politics... sianz.. but heng ORD long ago laioz....Originally posted by HENG@:sure as hell ain't mine. -
I think I slpt through my army life....
The only time I am wide awake is the time to go for my lunch at the canteen.... other than that of cos it is the book out timing.... 
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Originally posted by Praetorian111:I thought a clerk is lobo enuff.... still wan to lobo somemore??
there are clerks who need to do duty and there are clerks who dont mah. -
Like me....Originally posted by wuming78:
there are clerks who need to do duty and there are clerks who dont mah.
Sembawang damn active unit siah. -
the clerk at my unit (sbab) looks lobo lehOriginally posted by larrenV2.003:Like me.... Sembawang damn active unit siah. -
when I was a clerk for my last few months of NS, I kana posted to ARTC. Whew ... it was an experience few would want to live through again ...
- got to learn to use harvard graphics, word star, word perfect 4.1, and lotus 123 - all in 1 day .... and Dos5.0 for good measure
- got to learn how to fix and repair dot matrix printers on your own ... I hate Epson printers for life
- got to learn tto use the typewriter and carbon papers - in 1/2 day ... good for typing resignation letters in later life
- got introduced to the paper shredder, fax and photocopier ... and vowed never to be reborn as one of these eqpt. Imagine ... everything is at least 3 copies - regardless of volume, and the shredding after that.
- got intro to the chief clerk ... and found out 1st hand why women in power are bitches, regardless of age and child bearing. esp women who has nothing better to do with their time.
- got intro to the MTO and QM - and made good friends with them. very important.
- got intro to QM NCO and storeman ... and found out the importance of bribes
- got to learn the trick of attending master parade, getting the toilet and office cleaned and breakfast prepared for my officers ... all at the same time. (incidentally, all PAs and head clerks can perform multi-tasking faster than any 64bit hyper threading processor in the market now)
- got to fill in the shoes of shooters for P226 competition when my camp had more lobos than shooters
- found out my camp had more AR15s than human bodies
- got to learn how to pour beer nicely out of a can with minimal forth for officers in the officers' mess
- got to know Yishun area very well for area recce and night despatch duties ... esp hawker centres
- got to learn how siong doing a dri-clad can be
- got to learn how are the faggorts and confess cases and stay far far away from them
- got to learn that there are faggort officers also ... hmmm...
- got to learn that the camp has no bunks and beds and no matter how late you work until (12mn to 2ams are quite common), you'll still have to walk 45 mins to the main gate and get a cab home at your own expense
- got to learn that during quarterly closing, you can operate 2 PCs and 2 printers at the same time and use up to 75 reams of paper in 2 days ... I swear to you ... I hate the sound of dot matrix Epson printers for life
- get to learn that all officers dying to be promoted while stuck in a lobo camp are ultra paranoid
- get to learn that reservists that earn more than $750/day working outside is recalled back to do ICT as a GP car driver. We got free meals and drinks for lunch and dinner for 2 whole days because of area recce ... and he asked his own personal driver to do the recce for us some more !!
- get to learn that all PAs and Head Clerks rushing to complete a project can perform so fast that the officers' decisions are slower than our processing speed ... anticipation is the key
- got to learn that when you hear a voice on the phone "Hello ... this is Colonel xxx ... I want to talk to your Colonel xxx" ... for some reason ... you be thinking "Colonel so what".
- got to learn that Chief of Army pisses in the same loo as you, next to you in the urinal cubicle ... after that ... COA so what
- got to see Tony Tan as Minister of Defense walking around your office ... and then after that ... Min of Def so what (incidentally his hair style at that time really looked like one of the gremlins ... the white streak)
- got to learn that when you got excess budget to spend at the end of fiscal year, its really hard to think of what to buy with 1.3 million dollars. In then end, we spent 1.4mil on clothes, building upgrades, painting, stores, eqpt, what ever whatever ... processed 100 odd work orders to contractors in 1 week !!
Life as Clerk ... depends lah. Esp for someone who got downgraded in the last few months of NS, I told myself ... if not for the nit picking and politicking and what ever nonsense ... MinDef would be a really good place to work in -
veelee!
thats almost exactly what i went thru! but imagine something like, 2 years 2 months of it...
only nice thing is i get to go home everyday, and i get to surf the net, sometimes. -
x2. The chief clerk bit is sama sama. Dunno why chief clerks behave like this, like everyday PMS...Originally posted by vleelee:when I was a clerk for my last few months of NS, I kana posted to ARTC. Whew ... it was an experience few would want to live through again ...
- got to learn to use harvard graphics, word star, word perfect 4.1, and lotus 123 - all in 1 day .... and Dos5.0 for good measure
- got to learn how to fix and repair dot matrix printers on your own ... I hate Epson printers for life
- got to learn tto use the typewriter and carbon papers - in 1/2 day ... good for typing resignation letters in later life
- got introduced to the paper shredder, fax and photocopier ... and vowed never to be reborn as one of these eqpt. Imagine ... everything is at least 3 copies - regardless of volume, and the shredding after that.
- got intro to the chief clerk ... and found out 1st hand why women in power are bitches, regardless of age and child bearing. esp women who has nothing better to do with their time.
- got intro to the MTO and QM - and made good friends with them. very important.
- got intro to QM NCO and storeman ... and found out the importance of bribes
- got to learn the trick of attending master parade, getting the toilet and office cleaned and breakfast prepared for my officers ... all at the same time. (incidentally, all PAs and head clerks can perform multi-tasking faster than any 64bit hyper threading processor in the market now)
- got to fill in the shoes of shooters for P226 competition when my camp had more lobos than shooters
- found out my camp had more AR15s than human bodies
- got to learn how to pour beer nicely out of a can with minimal forth for officers in the officers' mess
- got to know Yishun area very well for area recce and night despatch duties ... esp hawker centres
- got to learn how siong doing a dri-clad can be
- got to learn how are the faggorts and confess cases and stay far far away from them
- got to learn that there are faggort officers also ... hmmm...
- got to learn that the camp has no bunks and beds and no matter how late you work until (12mn to 2ams are quite common), you'll still have to walk 45 mins to the main gate and get a cab home at your own expense
- got to learn that during quarterly closing, you can operate 2 PCs and 2 printers at the same time and use up to 75 reams of paper in 2 days ... I swear to you ... I hate the sound of dot matrix Epson printers for life
- get to learn that all officers dying to be promoted while stuck in a lobo camp are ultra paranoid
- get to learn that reservists that earn more than $750/day working outside is recalled back to do ICT as a GP car driver. We got free meals and drinks for lunch and dinner for 2 whole days because of area recce ... and he asked his own personal driver to do the recce for us some more !!
- get to learn that all PAs and Head Clerks rushing to complete a project can perform so fast that the officers' decisions are slower than our processing speed ... anticipation is the key
- got to learn that when you hear a voice on the phone "Hello ... this is Colonel xxx ... I want to talk to your Colonel xxx" ... for some reason ... you be thinking "Colonel so what".
- got to learn that Chief of Army pisses in the same loo as you, next to you in the urinal cubicle ... after that ... COA so what
- got to see Tony Tan as Minister of Defense walking around your office ... and then after that ... Min of Def so what (incidentally his hair style at that time really looked like one of the gremlins ... the white streak)
- got to learn that when you got excess budget to spend at the end of fiscal year, its really hard to think of what to buy with 1.3 million dollars. In then end, we spent 1.4mil on clothes, building upgrades, painting, stores, eqpt, what ever whatever ... processed 100 odd work orders to contractors in 1 week !!
Life as Clerk ... depends lah. Esp for someone who got downgraded in the last few months of NS, I told myself ... if not for the nit picking and politicking and what ever nonsense ... MinDef would be a really good place to work in
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for chief clerks... well i must say i've had 3 pretty good chief clerks within 2 years here.
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no leh, my fren say super siong lehOriginally posted by kopiosatu:the clerk at my unit (sbab) looks lobo leh
he always said that if he could he would prefer to go chiong sua, no need think so much -
people think those who don't run around have the easy life, hahahaha!!Originally posted by nismoS132:no leh, my fren say super siong leh
he always said that if he could he would prefer to go chiong sua, no need think so much
i know my previous unit the clerk quite poor thing...
but the clerk in my current unit... well, maybe he knows how to handle time well
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mental stress can break a person
personally witness a Training Wing clerk who got hay wired because of work stress that 1 fine morning, he (dun know how) climbed to the roof top and started singing the National Anthem.
A few of the officers had to coax him down ... he lived, and got posted out to The Pointer, the magazine division
poor case ... damn good grades in A levels some more
and then there are attitude cases. there was this clerk that was so opposed to his clerk work that he purposely freigned MCs and got into fights. Even when the CO posted him to Officers' Mess as a waiter, he still rebelled. I think he was charged and got posted to 2 PDF (where its more siong !!) -
i rather go chiong sua..then do paper work..Originally posted by nismoS132:no leh, my fren say super siong leh
he always said that if he could he would prefer to go chiong sua, no need think so much
its never ending work..but chiong sua will finish eventually..
do your job wrongly..if heng(not u are HENG@) kena fark nia..if sway..kena fark + sign extra... -
guys!! just be patient you dont own them a living after all.2.5 years and you are gone.IF kena scolded take it as singing song and next moment forget it clean.
Admin personnel are recruited to crack brains and mental stress are inevitable.
Combat personnel are recruited to defend the nation with their heavy bag pack and equipments.It Physical stress.
anyway which vocation comes without stress.its only how you manage them evenly -
Originally posted by vleelee:
Yeah I remember my NS days, I went to Maju camp, bloody hell the freakin clerks there were playing PC games on their computer like no body business! I asked, is this what you do the whole day? They said say book in around 10 play games til 4 book out! I almost fainted!
[b]mental stress can break a person
personally witness a Training Wing clerk who got hay wired because of work stress that 1 fine morning, he (dun know how) climbed to the roof top and started singing the National Anthem.
A few of the officers had to coax him down ... he lived, and got posted out to The Pointer, the magazine division
poor case ... damn good grades in A levels some more
and then there are attitude cases. there was this clerk that was so opposed to his clerk work that he purposely freigned MCs and got into fights. Even when the CO posted him to Officers' Mess as a waiter, he still rebelled. I think he was charged and got posted to 2 PDF (where its more siong !!)[/b]
The most lagi lobo camp, is NCC, bloody hell I went there to help train NCC for a few days, super easy to train as the teachers were there will help make file rank, march, send them to eat... all I did was just lecture on weaponary. I looked at the NS guy posted there, asked him what does he do when there are no NCC cadets to train, he said he and his PC seldom books into camp! Btw, NCC training is only a few times in a year! I was scratching my head, did they even serve NS like that?
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haha i heng also not heng, also kenna fark.Originally posted by NathanG5:i rather go chiong sua..then do paper work..
its never ending work..but chiong sua will finish eventually..
do your job wrongly..if heng(not u are HENG@) kena fark nia..if sway..kena fark + sign extra... -
I only get to surf the net in camp for 1 hour only...Originally posted by :Yeah I remember my NS days, I went to Maju camp, bloody hell the freakin clerks there were playing PC games on their computer like no body business! I asked, is this what you do the whole day? They said say book in around 10 play games til 4 book out! I almost fainted!
The most lagi lobo camp, is NCC, bloody hell I went there to help train NCC for a few days, super easy to train as the teachers were there will help make file rank, march, send them to eat... all I did was just lecture on weaponary. I looked at the NS guy posted there, asked him what does he do when there are no NCC cadets to train, he said he and his PC seldom books into camp! Btw, NCC training is only a few times in a year! I was scratching my head, did they even serve NS like that? like that guy's case mentioned above.....whoa damn freaking lobo. -
i went to SAFTI MI once on dispatch, and the clerks were playing CS on the office networks.Originally posted by larrenV2.003:I only get to surf the net in camp for 1 hour only... like that guy's case mentioned above.....whoa damn freaking lobo. -
And a piece of reminder do not get posted into Navy......a very multi tasking force. Dong Xi Zhuo Bu Wan. Work your bloody guts until nobody appreciates what u doing. Do until sick get MC also nobody give u consolation & sometimes kena recalled back even u broke your leg..... tat happens to my previous upperstudy....and he said that he dun mind also.......
& that infuriates me..... 
& i also call him XIAO!!!!! -
Well, some clerks are not clerks by vocation per se.These people face more stress as they know that being a clerk is just an appointment which is not guaranteed due to estab, and can be pulled out of that branch due to whim and fancy of higher-ups.I would say that armament specs who are holding clerk appointments have it really bad.
On one hand, they are qualified to maintain and repair weapon systems, on the other, they are required to do reports and admin work which is very stressful because they are dealing with multi-million dollar systems,and technical reports are bad for one's sanity, because maintenance and equipment status reports eventually find their way up to SSSOs, which makes even the lower-level clerks sweat because they simply can't afford any inaccuracy in the data.not to say mistakes are good, but these people are under serious pressure to be perfect and they are small in number due to estab(again!), or medical reasons prohibiting them from working in the workshop. Anyone has the same experience here?Care to add? -
well in my unit i am Int Clerk and SA