Should i encourage him to sign on?
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Hey guys... would appreciate if you could help me on this...
My bf graduated from poly with diploma in mechatronics. However his results was not that fantastic.
He wanted to sign on with the air force as a senior technician with the Joint Polytechnic scheme as he could get a payback of allowance and school fees. However, the air force says that his results are not good enough for the Joint Polytechnic scheme but still offer him the opportunity to sign on, without the payback.
1) While he is studying, i had to help him with his finance and it was quite straining for me. If he's going to enlist without signing on, i know life for me is going to be tougher than now. His mother had mentioned that after going to the NS, she will not give him any allowance.
I know as a gf, i should support him and give him encouagement on whatever decision he makes. Part of me wish he could sign on so that my burden will be lighter, but i don't wish him to sign on for 10 years and and be doing things he dun like just for the sake of the money. I'm in quite a dilemma as i dunno how to give him opinions on this issue.
I had already told him before if he never sign on, the financial burden would be greater for me but i really dun wan him to put this as a factor into considering
I know his dreams is not slogging, but making it big. But if he signs on, that means there'll be no chance to venture out on his own anymore.
How should i encourage him......... what should i tell him... i know what i 'll say will be inclining him to sign on....so i need some advice since i have no knowledge in this aspect of signing on or not... -
Nobody can help me?Originally posted by shirurinu:Hey guys... would appreciate if you could help me on this...
My bf graduated from poly with diploma in mechatronics. However his results was not that fantastic.
He wanted to sign on with the air force as a senior technician with the Joint Polytechnic scheme as he could get a payback of allowance and school fees. However, the air force says that his results are not good enough for the Joint Polytechnic scheme but still offer him the opportunity to sign on, without the payback.
1) While he is studying, i had to help him with his finance and it was quite straining for me. If he's going to enlist without signing on, i know life for me is going to be tougher than now. His mother had mentioned that after going to the NS, she will not give him any allowance.
I know as a gf, i should support him and give him encouagement on whatever decision he makes. Part of me wish he could sign on so that my burden will be lighter, but i don't wish him to sign on for 10 years and and be doing things he dun like just for the sake of the money. I'm in quite a dilemma as i dunno how to give him opinions on this issue.
I had already told him before if he never sign on, the financial burden would be greater for me but i really dun wan him to put this as a factor into considering
I know his dreams is not slogging, but making it big. But if he signs on, that means there'll be no chance to venture out on his own anymore.
How should i encourage him......... what should i tell him... i know what i 'll say will be inclining him to sign on....so i need some advice since i have no knowledge in this aspect of signing on or not...
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Not sure about this but think officer can sign on for 3 years, NS included. There should be other schemes where one need not sign on for ten years that long. Can consider if really need money.
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Tell him 2 be careful about the hidden sai kang that he will be going thru especially money matters. Ask him to enquire more from MINDEF about his state for signing on.
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Well firstly you are a very good girlfriend and your boyfriend is really fortunateOriginally posted by shirurinu:Hey guys... would appreciate if you could help me on this...
My bf graduated from poly with diploma in mechatronics. However his results was not that fantastic.
He wanted to sign on with the air force as a senior technician with the Joint Polytechnic scheme as he could get a payback of allowance and school fees. However, the air force says that his results are not good enough for the Joint Polytechnic scheme but still offer him the opportunity to sign on, without the payback.
1) While he is studying, i had to help him with his finance and it was quite straining for me. If he's going to enlist without signing on, i know life for me is going to be tougher than now. His mother had mentioned that after going to the NS, she will not give him any allowance.
I know as a gf, i should support him and give him encouagement on whatever decision he makes. Part of me wish he could sign on so that my burden will be lighter, but i don't wish him to sign on for 10 years and and be doing things he dun like just for the sake of the money. I'm in quite a dilemma as i dunno how to give him opinions on this issue.
I had already told him before if he never sign on, the financial burden would be greater for me but i really dun wan him to put this as a factor into considering
I know his dreams is not slogging, but making it big. But if he signs on, that means there'll be no chance to venture out on his own anymore.
How should i encourage him......... what should i tell him... i know what i 'll say will be inclining him to sign on....so i need some advice since i have no knowledge in this aspect of signing on or not...
. Regarding your problem...well there is indeed a three year contract scheme for Army officers, and heres the link:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/officer/off_1300.html
You can ask your boyfriend to work hard during BMT to go to OCS....but if he refuse to, sign on as a specialist should be fine. For specialist is a 10 years contract, but i hear that you can disrupt after 5 years without having to pay anything.
BTW tell your boyfriend to be more realistic....want to make it big but still let girlfriend pay for school fees. Sorri for me saying this, but for every successful person he will have to suffer before to become one. My friend bf even signed just to support his family. If he is really wants to venture out tell him to save up his capital first...maybe by signing on or whatever
If want money signing on army is just one of them...since he has got a dip he can work after his NS rite? -
he oredi wanted to sign on wat......Originally posted by shirurinu:He wanted to sign on with the air force as a senior technician with the Joint Polytechnic scheme as he could get a payback of allowance and school fees. However, the air force says that his results are not good enough for the Joint Polytechnic scheme but still offer him the opportunity to sign on, without the payback.
no payback then no payback loh.... -
This sentence is the one i am concernOriginally posted by shirurinu:I know his dreams is not slogging, but making it big. But if he signs on, that means there'll be no chance to venture out on his own anymore. -
what i wonder is, how come he never find his own solutions, but instead, depend on his gf to support him financially.
the navy isn't a dead end. some pple go in and grow lazy and rot there... but some go in and find out that there are other opportunities outside and decide to leave for something better later.
if he wants to "make it big", first priority is capital... unless u wanna support THAT too. gov't jobs are good for getting one's finances in order cos it offers a stable income for at least a few years.
my stupid advice? get a new boyfriend. best if its someone who can take care of YOU for a change. he doesn't need a gf... he needs a sugar-mommy. -
why so many little white face eating soft rice nowadays... sighzOriginally posted by CX:what i wonder is, how come he never find his own solutions, but instead, depend on his gf to support him financially.
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wat's the problem? she seems to love him enuff to see thru his tough times, based on the information given HERE in this thread. perhaps u have biased info from other threads she has raised.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):why so many little white face eating soft rice nowadays... sighz
that aside, perhaps you don't deserve a girl who would love u as she does her bf, since u just dun understand wat love can do.
and.. to top it off, let's see u curse a GIRL who lives off a MAN. that's just normal isn't it?
stop being stereotypical and use ur bloody brains, and sometimes, ur heart, and not ur ego. -
Yeah. I remember one of my regular specialists left the army in his 5th year without having to pay anything. But check it out with MINDEF first. Also, agree that your bf should learn to stand on his own two feet, especially after he enters NS.Originally posted by BMEngineer:Well firstly you are a very good girlfriend and your boyfriend is really fortunate . Regarding your problem...well there is indeed a three year contract scheme for Army officers, and heres the link:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/officer/off_1300.html
You can ask your boyfriend to work hard during BMT to go to OCS....but if he refuse to, sign on as a specialist should be fine. For specialist is a 10 years contract, but i hear that you can disrupt after 5 years without having to pay anything.
BTW tell your boyfriend to be more realistic....want to make it big but still let girlfriend pay for school fees. Sorri for me saying this, but for every successful person he will have to suffer before to become one. My friend bf even signed just to support his family. If he is really wants to venture out tell him to save up his capital first...maybe by signing on or whatever
If want money signing on army is just one of them...since he has got a dip he can work after his NS rite? -
Negative. One does not sign three years including NS, meaning serving an extra 1/2 year after your NS liability. Rather, the 3-yr contract for officer starts from the day he/she commisions and runs for three years after that, making it a total of slightly over 4 years.Originally posted by Langley:Not sure about this but think officer can sign on for 3 years, NS included. There should be other schemes where one need not sign on for ten years that long. Can consider if really need money.
The current scheme for officers is the SAVER scheme. It's not a long term contract but there is still a minimum time (about 5 years?) you must stay, after which you can choose to leave after giving one months notice.
All the experienced people have been saying this all the time, and it is true:
Dun ever sign on for the money. Its not worth it if you dun love doing it.
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the problem is, a guy should settle his own problem especially when it's about money,, even if he really got problem dun u think it's better that his parent try to help him first?? she's just his gf.. not wife u know?? if he love him as much as she love him.. then he shouldnt even accept he money, i dun think she is earning that much....why make her suffer for his problem??Originally posted by jOhO:wat's the problem? she seems to love him enuff to see thru his tough times, based on the information given HERE in this thread. perhaps u have biased info from other threads she has raised..
whether i deserve a girl like her or not is not ur problem, u dun even know mi so cut the crap ok. thanks...like i stated above. if i really love that gal.. i wont even want her to be worri about mi... let alone accepting her money...it's my job to make her happy not sad...
that aside, perhaps you don't deserve a girl who would love u as she does her bf, since u just dun understand wat love can do.
for normal expenses like movie and food, it's normal for a guy to pay, but if u are talking about some stupid gal that just treat guy as a ATM, then u just show mi an e.g and i will curse her in front of u ok...
and.. to top it off, let's see u curse a GIRL who lives off a MAN. that's just normal isn't it?.
my brain may not as bloody as urs, but thanks you very much, i'm still using it, and maybe u should use urs too.... and if u understand what i stated above, i guess u can understand that it got nothing to do with my ego......
stop being stereotypical and use ur bloody brains, and sometimes, ur heart, and not ur ego.
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I tot saver scheme is for those already doing NS....that's 3 years added to ur NS of 2.5 years rite?
Anyway the main scheme is 10 years of which 5 years will be counted as NS time.If u quit b4 the 5 years u will get posted back to NS to serve out the remaining time.As a regular ur NS time is doubled.....meaning every 2 days u serve as a reg is 1 day as an NSF.So 2.5 become 5.If u quit after say 4 years,you still have to serve 6mths of NS. -
For the love of God.. no, no, no, no, noo!Originally posted by shirurinu:Hey guys... would appreciate if you could help me on this...
My bf graduated from poly with diploma in mechatronics. However his results was not that fantastic.
He wanted to sign on with the air force as a senior technician with the Joint Polytechnic scheme as he could get a payback of allowance and school fees. However, the air force says that his results are not good enough for the Joint Polytechnic scheme but still offer him the opportunity to sign on, without the payback.
1) While he is studying, i had to help him with his finance and it was quite straining for me. If he's going to enlist without signing on, i know life for me is going to be tougher than now. His mother had mentioned that after going to the NS, she will not give him any allowance.
I know as a gf, i should support him and give him encouagement on whatever decision he makes. Part of me wish he could sign on so that my burden will be lighter, but i don't wish him to sign on for 10 years and and be doing things he dun like just for the sake of the money. I'm in quite a dilemma as i dunno how to give him opinions on this issue.
I had already told him before if he never sign on, the financial burden would be greater for me but i really dun wan him to put this as a factor into considering
I know his dreams is not slogging, but making it big. But if he signs on, that means there'll be no chance to venture out on his own anymore.
How should i encourage him......... what should i tell him... i know what i 'll say will be inclining him to sign on....so i need some advice since i have no knowledge in this aspect of signing on or not... -
only if he intends to be in the military for the rest of his life. my answer is no.
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Well ... I just feel that as a gf... i should help him as much as i could although sometimes it wears me out. It isn't easy to let go of a relationship....Originally posted by CX:what i wonder is, how come he never find his own solutions, but instead, depend on his gf to support him financially.
Just to clarify but... i did not support in finance totally. His mum still give him some allowance but its not enough so i help him whenever he needs.
if he wants to "make it big", first priority is capital... unless u wanna support THAT too. gov't jobs are good for getting one's finances in order cos it offers a stable income for at least a few years.
I agree...
my stupid advice? get a new boyfriend. best if its someone who can take care of YOU for a change. he doesn't need a gf... he needs a sugar-mommy. -
Thanks for ur compliment....Originally posted by BMEngineer:Well firstly you are a very good girlfriend and your boyfriend is really fortunate . Regarding your problem...well there is indeed a three year contract scheme for Army officers, and heres the link:
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/officer/off_1300.html
You can ask your boyfriend to work hard during BMT to go to OCS....but if he refuse to, sign on as a specialist should be fine. For specialist is a 10 years contract, but i hear that you can disrupt after 5 years without having to pay anything.
BTW tell your boyfriend to be more realistic....want to make it big but still let girlfriend pay for school fees. Sorri for me saying this, but for every successful person he will have to suffer before to become one. My friend bf even signed just to support his family. If he is really wants to venture out tell him to save up his capital first...maybe by signing on or whatever
If want money signing on army is just one of them...since he has got a dip he can work after his NS rite?
Just to clarify i did not pay for his school fees... but since i'm working and he's still studying... most of entertainment fees, like movies etc i'll pay for it...
I know how tough it is for some1 to sign a bond and discover that they might want something else... I'm one of them. So i dun wan him to follow in my footsteps. -
Actually well.... if u enter NS ur allowance is only like $400 the maximum as a recruit... seriously speaking, u think thats enough To pay bills? I know i can't so i don't expect him to do it too. Futhermore his mom is not going to support him with allowance anymore. And there's transport and bills and insurance.... how do u expect him to stand on his feet with 400 bucks?Originally posted by Langley:Yeah. I remember one of my regular specialists left the army in his 5th year without having to pay anything. But check it out with MINDEF first. Also, agree that your bf should learn to stand on his own two feet, especially after he enters NS.
I know he's not feeling good to let me pay also.. thats y he consider signing on too.... i'm one of the factor... but 10 years is a long long time... Mayb i should ask him consider the 3yr contract scheme... but whats the chances of being selected for OCS course? If u r not selected then how... right -
Well I suggest you ask him to sign on or least explain the situation to him. He have grown up and need to be independant. At least he will be financially responsible for himself. Least of all look at all the things he will learn from the army.Discipline.
My 2C worth.
And he will have a sum of money after his service which he can do whatever business he had in mind. If not where would the $$$$ come from???????
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You have to pass IPPT and SOC. That is the first cirteria. Second you have to perform well in you SIS(<< cannot remember the name liao) test. And your officer and peers must recommend you to the higher officer. Used to be very easy to get the 3 yrs contract but I though it no longer is available ??????? Anyway you can ask him to check it out.Originally posted by shirurinu:how do u expect him to stand on his feet with 400 bucks?
.... hello!!! my allowance was only 280++ when I serve my country. I also have a Gf then but that does not mean it is not enough.
Mayb i should ask him consider the 3yr contract scheme... but whats the chances of being selected for OCS course? If u r not selected then how... right -
Thanks... but what is SOC, and SIS???Originally posted by TONYTAN:You have to pass IPPT and SOC. That is the first cirteria. Second you have to perform well in you SIS(<< cannot remember the name liao) test. And your officer and peers must recommend you to the higher officer. Used to be very easy to get the 3 yrs contract but I though it no longer is available ??????? Anyway you can ask him to check it out. -
pros
stable 8-5 job(depending on which depart he's into) and good income.
cons have to be extra extra careful... -
SOC is a very very very big playground... for adults... and i hate it...Originally posted by shirurinu:Thanks... but what is SOC, and SIS???
SIS? no lah...should be SIT TEST.. situation test where they are given situation to solve... see who can give the best idea, have the best leadership... the better one have higher chance to go OCS lor...
hmm...actually i had some views on all these...
OCS are meant for ppl that truely wanna be commander... if your bf can become an officer NATURALLY... good for him, deserve my respect..
if your bf get into OCS because of his wayang-ness, so that he can get the shortest term of sign on...which is 4 years... its abit wrong lah ...
not trying to offend you ... but thats just my views ah ...
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It is actually up to individual..most of my friends said that it is easy to save up during NS because you won be spending much due to the fact that you will be spending most of your time in camp.Originally posted by shirurinu:Actually well.... if u enter NS ur allowance is only like $400 the maximum as a recruit... seriously speaking, u think thats enough To pay bills? I know i can't so i don't expect him to do it too. Futhermore his mom is not going to support him with allowance anymore. And there's transport and bills and insurance.... how do u expect him to stand on his feet with 400 bucks?
I know he's not feeling good to let me pay also.. thats y he consider signing on too.... i'm one of the factor... but 10 years is a long long time... Mayb i should ask him consider the 3yr contract scheme... but whats the chances of being selected for OCS course? If u r not selected then how... right