Army Paranormal Events
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Isn't everyone hypocritical?Ok lah,I post some extreme stuff and have some hawkish views,but I change and learn to moderate myself right.Originally posted by CX:lan jiao understand.
talk so much, but end of the day? u're just another lazy, self-centered phucker.
i guess we all know an arm-chair general and a hypocrit when we see one...
I think calling me au're just another lazy, self-centered phucker.
is a bit much CX.Chill brother.I hold no hard feelings.Still,the attack on my person is unwarranted.I don't deny I am a hypocrit,all of us are to some degree,but dun need to kena lash out like this right?
Arm-chair general?dunno whether or not lah,and I don't care.There are plenty of 'armchair generals' in these forums.
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wha...imagine got ghost chief clerk....CO..S1, S2...one full company ...hahaOriginally posted by wuming78:
i thought u had meant tt these paranormal.. erm..personalities get better pay and ord earlier too.
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heheh... i suppose the sense of belonging is always there!Originally posted by Gedanken:Whoa, they followed the company?
Hmm... so far mainly stories from our (2 coy) 2nd level company line, i guess that ought to explain for the dark atmosphere along the entire level.... we've got some good "company" there! Just joking la. Never felt unwelcomed by them before..
Lion02, was the big mirror, lion statute atlar and bell at the entrance to our corridor already present when u were there? One of the regulars from PTW (err.. name of the staff sgt slipped my mind - just remembered, Tan Lee Khoon, great guy) always change the offerings once a month without fail. I found a talisman during bmt in the bunk-converted storeroom near one of the toilets and asked my PC if it belonged to anyone, but he almost freaked out and ordered me to put it where i found it.
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well..there are alot of hypocrite out there..but u are the only few dumb enough to admit..so who to shoot down?Originally posted by Sardaukar:is a bit much CX.Chill brother.I hold no hard feelings.Still,the attack on my person is unwarranted.I don't deny I am a hypocrit,all of us are to some degree,but dun need to kena lash out like this right?
Arm-chair general?dunno whether or not lah,and I don't care.There are plenty of 'armchair generals' in these forums.
just relax and contribute to the topic at hand.
obvious rite?
btw..dun assume everyone a hypocrite..even if u are one...
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Originally posted by Sardaukar:
no... not everyone's a hypocrit... many pple here have strong views and have the balls to stand by them.
Isn't everyone hypocritical?Ok lah,I post some extreme stuff and have some hawkish views,but I change and learn to moderate myself right.I think calling me a
then what are u? ultra-nationalist who doesn't like to bleed and sweat?
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u're just another lazy, self-centered phucker.
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is a bit much CX.Chill brother.I hold no hard feelings.
militarist who's happy that he doesn't have to serve 6 more months?
joker who gleefully laughs at pple who had to serve 6 more months?
be sensitive lah... no hard feelings? more like insufficient brain matter.Still,the attack on my person is unwarranted.I don't deny I am a hypocrit,all of us are to some degree,but dun need to kena lash out like this right?
I served 2.5 years in an infantry unit. there were siong times, there were easy times, there were things i achieved that i was proud of, there were things i failed to do that i regret to this day.
i do not like pple to insult the dignity of those who had to serve 2.5 years of national service... LEASTof all, young punks like YOU who talks a lot, but HAVEN'T SERVED.Arm-chair general?dunno whether or not lah,and I don't care.There are plenty of 'armchair generals' in these forums.
the difference is between those who had served in SOME capacity and those who just read mil-fiction and talk.
just relax and contribute to the topic at hand.
topic at hand? army ghost stories? never seen any. the worst supernatural experience i've ever encountered was how fast pple "disappear" when there's stuff to do.
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So you imply that a "young punk" like me has no balls to stand up for his views?A joker?A fucking joker?A person who doesn't give a shit about his fellow man?Originally posted by CX:quote:
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Originally posted by Sardaukar:
Isn't everyone hypocritical?Ok lah,I post some extreme stuff and have some hawkish views,but I change and learn to moderate myself right.
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no... not everyone's a hypocrit... many pple here have strong views and have the balls to stand by them.
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I think calling me a
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u're just another lazy, self-centered phucker.
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is a bit much CX.Chill brother.I hold no hard feelings.
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then what are u? ultra-nationalist who doesn't like to bleed and sweat?
militarist who's happy that he doesn't have to serve 6 more months?
joker who gleefully laughs at pple who had to serve 6 more months?
be sensitive lah... no hard feelings? more like insufficient brain matter.
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Still,the attack on my person is unwarranted.I don't deny I am a hypocrit,all of us are to some degree,but dun need to kena lash out like this right?
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I served 2.5 years in an infantry unit. there were siong times, there were easy times, there were things i achieved that i was proud of, there were things i failed to do that i regret to this day.
i do not like pple to insult the dignity of those who had to serve 2.5 years of national service... LEASTof all, young punks like YOU who talks a lot, but HAVEN'T SERVED.
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Arm-chair general?dunno whether or not lah,and I don't care.There are plenty of 'armchair generals' in these forums.
just relax and contribute to the topic at hand.
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the difference is between those who had served in SOME capacity and those who just read mil-fiction and talk.
topic at hand? army ghost stories? never seen any. the worst supernatural experience i've ever encountered was how fast pple "disappear" when there's stuff to do.
observation: pple who talk the most, do the least and "disappear" the most.
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Is that what you are saying?
CX,I'm not the one who started insulting you in the first place.You launched an attack against me without provocation,and took the context of my first post wrongly.That was done in humour and nobyd else until you seemed offended by it.That is not my problem if others were not offended by it but you were.
At least I have the courage to admit my faults,one of them being that I am a hypocrit.You?
What you are implying is that i look down on the soldiers of Singapore who have contributed to the survival and prosperity of my family,that I look down on my family members who have served in the defence of the nation,that I am a coward who would run away from a fight?Is that what you imply?Because if you are,I will prove you dead wrong.
As a matter of courtesy,I can't exactly threaten physical violence on anybody in these forums can I?However,I will more than willing to prove you wrong.
I'm back in Singapore from 23rd July to 1st August for my break.I can meet up with you at any time at any place of your choosing.And we can have a little one-on-one.Perhaps you can teach this "young punk" a lesson old man.feel free to PM me so we can arrange something.I am more than willing to oblige. -
Originally posted by Sardaukar:
i didn't say that... YOU did.
So you imply that a "young punk" like me has no balls to stand up for his views?A joker?A fucking joker?A person who doesn't give a shit about his fellow man?
Is that what you are saying?CX,I'm not the one who started insulting you in the first place.You launched an attack against me without provocation,and took the context of my first post wrongly.That was done in humour and nobyd else until you seemed offended by it.That is not my problem if others were not offended by it but you were.
was that funny?
the only thing mildly amusing to me that a young, nationalistic and hawkish fellow citizen exposes himself to be two faced, and then happily ADMITS IT.At least I have the courage to admit my faults,one of them being that I am a hypocrit.You?
me? i have the balls to stand by my views. i do not thump my chest to say one thing, then turn around and giggle like a girl.
if u have the balls to admit your hypocrisy, then what's left to say? i will gladly respect that. i hope u feel honoured by that.What you are implying is that i look down on the soldiers of Singapore who have contributed to the survival and prosperity of my family,that I look down on my family members who have served in the defence of the nation,that I am a coward who would run away from a fight?
oh give it a rest. YOUR statement did that. i did not have to put words in your mouth. are u to tell me that it is YOUR hypocrisy talking then?Is that what you imply?Because if you are,I will prove you dead wrong.
oh really? whatever happened to hypocrisy?As a matter of courtesy,I can't exactly threaten physical violence on anybody in these forums can I?However,I will more than willing to prove you wrong.
go take yourself outside and bash your alter ego. i'm not interested.I'm back in Singapore from 23rd July to 1st August for my break.I can meet up with you at any time at any place of your choosing.And we can have a little one-on-one.Perhaps you can teach this "young punk" a lesson old man.feel free to PM me so we can arrange something.I am more than willing to oblige.
what? u wanna fight for your hypocrisy? a worthy cause to u perhaps...
so fine... let us ALL respect your hypocrisy. no need to fight here.
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the mirror was there but not the lion statute atlar and bell.Originally posted by psykror7:Lion02, was the big mirror, lion statute atlar and bell at the entrance to our corridor already present when u were there? One of the regulars from PTW (err.. name of the staff sgt slipped my mind - just remembered, Tan Lee Khoon, great guy) always change the offerings once a month without fail. I found a talisman during bmt in the bunk-converted storeroom near one of the toilets and asked my PC if it belonged to anyone, but he almost freaked out and ordered me to put it where i found it. Nothing happened though.
this is my personal encounter....
during BOT, i was in one of the advance team to depart for tekong during one of the night training.
my team's objective was the eastern jetty. we're to walk to there via the north of the reservoir and the northern axis.
as we pass the reservoir, and reach the rubber plantation at the centre-north part of tekong (it was near mid-night), we suppose to come to a cross junction, but met with a T-junction instead.
while my commander and i was trying to confirm the ground, one of our teammate found a log by the road and sit on it, and my commander says to him "don't just sit there, help to find the road"
after 5 mins, the five of us could not find the road, so we thought the map we're using was out-dated.
as we still have time, we decide not to bash through, but to detour on the road to our right which will lead to the center axis.
the next day, when we were on our way back, we use the same road as we went in. as we comes to the rubber plantation , the T-junction becomes cross junction. the missing road we're trying to find was right there infront of us.
first we thought this was not the junction, but then, the log my teammate sat on the night before was right there.
the five of us just look at each other with the "what the fuc*...." expression on our face....
after this, i had a few occasion to come across this junction in the night, and by normal situation, we could never miss the road.... the road is so big.... -
me? i have the balls to stand by my views. i do not thump my chest to say one thing, then turn around and giggle like a girl.
CX,are you tryiing to imply something?
if u have the balls to admit your hypocrisy, then what's left to say? i will gladly respect that. i hope u feel honoured by that.
I will stand by my damn views.I said I am a hypocrit,yes,but when it comes to some vital matters important,to accues me of being 2 faced is bullshit.
Sure as hell I am loyal to this country and am glad to serve it,I just said that i am glad that they cut it down a bit.Do you have any evidence that I am 2 faced as you claim?
You were the one who stated that this "young punk" needed to be taught a lesson.I am more than glad to oblige you in this matter.Any Alter-ego I would be glad to oblige and bash up is you.You are the one who comes here insulting me,and this is my response:I didn't say anything at first in my first response and basically ignored the shit you spewed about me.You however kept at it.
I may be a hypocrit in some matters,I will openly admit that,but in matters relating to the security of Singapore,NO.You were the one who thought so.
I have my own life to lead and 2 to 2.5 years of serving the country is fine with me,though the reduction was a welcome surprise.I know the reality that we face.We are a prime target for countless others,we are caught in an area where we have been the scapegoat for other 'friendly' neighbours such as Indonesia and Malaysia.If they decide to attack,they won't give a shit as to who they kill.Terrorists have tried to attack us.I know that.
I will fight for myself and my honour in this matter.I admitted I am a hypocrit,but you imply that I am a hypocrit in this matter.YOU SAID IT,not me.
I will not fight for my hypocrisy because I am no hypocrit in this matter.but if you wish I am more than willing to oblige you you bastard. -
Originally posted by Sardaukar:
YES. that u talk the talk, but u apparently don't seem to have it in u to walk the walk.
CX,are you tryiing to imply something?I will stand by my damn views.I said I am a hypocrit,yes,but when it comes to some vital matters important,to accues me of being 2 faced is bullshit.
vital matter of importance? like your petty ego?Sure as hell I am loyal to this country and am glad to serve it,I just said that i am glad that they cut it down a bit.Do you have any evidence that I am 2 faced as you claim?
a militarist, hawkish, nationalistic individual who among other things, seems to LOVE the insitution of national service GLAD that they cut it down a bit when it is HIS turn to serve... YOU tell me.
i was quite frankly, alarmed that they cut it down. it was only after looking at the population statistics that the cut seemed sensible... still, an expansion would not go down the wrong way with me...You were the one who stated that this "young punk" needed to be taught a lesson.I am more than glad to oblige you in this matter.Any Alter-ego I would be glad to oblige and bash up is you.You are the one who comes here insulting me,and this is my response:I didn't say anything at first in my first response and basically ignored the shit you spewed about me.You however kept at it.
taught a lesson? no. think before he speaks, definitely.I may be a hypocrit in some matters,I will openly admit that,but in matters relating to the security of Singapore,NO.You were the one who thought so.
YOU were the one who admitted to it.I have my own life to lead and 2 to 2.5 years of serving the country is fine with me,though the reduction was a welcome surprise.I know the reality that we face.We are a prime target for countless others,we are caught in an area where we have been the scapegoat for other 'friendly' neighbours such as Indonesia and Malaysia.If they decide to attack,they won't give a shit as to who they kill.Terrorists have tried to attack us.I know that.
thank u very much. now we know u read the news.I will fight for myself and my honour in this matter.I admitted I am a hypocrit,but you imply that I am a hypocrit in this matter.YOU SAID IT,not me.
i already told u... if u're trying to justify hypocrisy, i'm not interested.I will not fight for my hypocrisy because I am no hypocrit in this matter.but if you wish I am more than willing to oblige you you bastard.
hah.. someone should remind the Mods that the vulgarity shields are down.
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reminds me of a incident which happened when i was doing COS duty in my unit on a weekend.
it was a sat night. after the last parade, every duty spec went back to their respective coy office. i was at the coy line, talking off my boot lace and smoking when the BOS came over. the BOS was from C coy and while we were smoking and chatting, 'A' COS, lim, run out from his office cursing and swearing..
the BOS, a very nice guy, ask him wat happened... lim said he was going to off the light in his CSM's office( it's in the same office but partitioned) when he saw the back view of someone wearing temasek green unifrom) lim shouted and run out of the office.
so BOS look at me ask if i dare to go in with him. so we went in, 3 of us... as we approached the CSM office, the telephone on his table rang. BOS walked slowly towards the office and us following behind. apparently there was no one there. but to play safe, BOS ask all the COS to sleep in the DO room. -
Please get back on topic.
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Will get back to topic tvdog,as well as ignore any of CX's comments.He deviated from the topic and made unprovoked attacks on me,which I will not bother to respond to and will make my position clear in this post,after which i will not respond to any queries.
As I should have stated clearly,I am hypocritical in areas of no consequence,but when it comes to areas where it counts,I make my stand as I cannot afford to be hypocritical in more important matters.
I'm happy to serve the nation,but 2.5 years is too much even for a patriot hawk ok.2 years is a whole number that rounds it out nicely.
I also wish to apologise to the parents of CX for calling CX a bastard,as it insults his parents,a bastard being a person who doesn't know either parent.I offer my sincerest apologies on this matter to his family for my rudeness.
I lost some moral high ground when I responded angrily to his attack,which I should have ignored,as I sunk to his level,even when initially I shrugged it off.I promise to try not to sink to his level again.
The first sentence in my first post was made in humour and nobody should be offended by it or interpret it to be insensitive to predescessors who have served before me.If you are offended by it because you misinterpret it,then I am sorry for my poverty of expression,but its your problem.
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now back to the topic.Will ignore any of CX's posts,not that it matters anyway,to him or me.I doubt i will ever meet him,and his opinion of me or anybody on this forum is irrelevant,in that I don't give a damn either way.
post your topics and let's hope nobody else derails the topic.
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Sardaukar... eh... SPI webby haven't update for donkey years liao leh
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Manthor eh..Hmm.Anyway, all that hot air between you and CX is not getting anywhere.So, let's all tone it down and perhaps some fruitfulness can be reaped from this?
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Apologise for all the hot air between CX and me to others.back to topic.
I have hears numerous stories about the Tekong Charlie bunk and the true story is less dramatic.
Basically,in the 1980's some soldier in Charlie coy went on a route march and kena mati because of bad health,drink water and died of some sort of heat stroke/water poisoning/natural causes.Rest in Peace.
Charlie coy couldn't find the body when they did a check,and one of his superior officers find it the next day,in some dense jungle next to the track where they were marching.The body is in ok condition,no stand-by of organs or ET sticking out.So they brought the body back to the bunk and then transported it to main island for funeral.
Thing is,Charlie coy after that then reported that his spirit was supposedly trapped in the bunk because of the charms or something or other,dun reallly know the details.so the SAF bring in a priest to cleanse the bunk and help his spirit pass on,a process which involved building a 3rd door which was then sealed,with the bunk converted to other uses.
and there you have as close to the real version as possible.For more indepth you should ask some of the other veterans or go to Ah Toh or abductboy on the SPI forums.
as for SPI website not being updated,sorry but its hard to do a proper investigation and many that we do,the owner doesn't want us to feature their property due to public reaction or ridicule they might face.also,please note that paranormal phenomena is rare and 8 to 9 out of 10 times that we go to a place to check,nothing happens.Trust me,it isn't very glamorous.of course,those times we do get something,then its different.if you go to the Urban Explorer's thread,am trying to assemble a team for a one night investigation. -
I'll help you guys get back on topic. Chill fellas ...
This happened around December 2002, in our dear Pulau Tekong. Wasn't a personal experience, but it's close enough i think.
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I was in an Infantry Bn that was going to P.Tekong for an 5 day exercise. I suspect the sole purpose of the mission was to tekan us sec-coms and the men, for all we did was SBD after SBD, with the occasion platoon mission. At night we would move to another area in FBO to another part of Tekong to dig in and con, then repeat the cycle again next day.
Mind you my bn was already operational, gone to brunei, and had already done quite a few battallion exercises, so WHY the bn HQ had funny ideas of training section movement for 5 entire days is beyond me. Furthermore, in ALL my bn exercises right up to my ORD, I had never even once fought in section level, it was always platoon level and above.
I'm going out of point, anyway suffice to say, we were all very tired by wednesday night having been doing drills since Monday. Now, that night after we finished our drills, we were supposed to move to another area to con, but for some reason, we were held at a training shed till ~11pm. Frankly then, me and my fellow sec-coms didn't care why, we were just glad to get some rest.
A while later, news filtered down to us that a bravo coy sec-com; let's call him Sgt A had gone missing during his FIBUA mission. Bn HQ was starting to worry and subsequently, the entire battalion was activated to search for him since Bravo coy had not suceeded in locating the Sgt despite having been searching and combing the area since 7pm.
We took 5-tonners to the BUA village where Sgt A was last seen, and carried out a mass combing. Entire companies were formed up in an extended line, and we moved forward to search, all the while calling out Sgt A's name. However by 2am, our Sgt A was still missing, and we had combed more than 2km from the BUA village. Those unlucky ones even bashed through the vegetation to search for him. All to no avail.
By this time, us Sgts were joking among one another, cracking jokes. We were horsing around saying Sgt A was hiding somewhere on purpose so we had to search for him, and as a result, the Bn exercise would have to halt. We even made up a mock plan as to who was next to hide, where to hide, and how much rations he should bring in order to sustain a hide till friday when mission would cut.
At around 2.30am, Thursday early morning, the search was finally called off. Sgt A had been found.
We didn't carry out our mock plan, and our exercise went on with the exception that we woudn't have to dig in that night as it was too late already. We carried out our last mission on thursday afternoon and gathered at the BUA village (where Sgt A went missing) at CO's orders.
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There, the CO addressed the battalion and told us what happened ...
On Wednesday evening, Sgt A was point section of his platoon to attack a BUA building. The exercise was a simple one, RV somewhere in the vegetation about 70m away from the building, then move towards it and carry out the usual drills.
It was getting dark then, and the platioon was lagging slightly. Sgt A told his men he would move ahead and check out the front, and instructed them to wait for the platoon. However, when the platoon arrived, Sgt A wasn't there. Not sensing anything admiss at that time, the platoon carried out the attack without Sgt A. Maybe the PC decided to question Sgt A when he came back.
It was nearing 8pm, and Sgt A still hadn't come back. The PC ordered the platoon to search for their Sgt. Soon the search expanded involved the Coy, and finally the whole Battalion.
Sgt A was eventually found at the Malay School by a mortar/scout (details are foggy, don't remember which exactly)section at around 230am. For those who don't know, this Malay School place was some distance away from the BUA village where Sgt A had gone missing. He was unconcious and suffering from mild hypothermia when discovered, and was sent to the BMTC medical center for treatment.
Sgt A initially refused to tell anyone what exactly happened, but after some time, he finally told his side of the story ...
That evening when Sgt A went ahead of his platoon alone that evening, he saw a white seemingly female figure. This figure told Sgt A to follow. For some reason, Sgt A felt compelled to follow and couldn't resist. He also mentioned he seem to be viewing everything from a 3-rd person perspective from behind ie. he was somehow looking at himself from behind following the white figure.
Sgt A (and the figure) arrived at the Malay School Tekong. There, the figure asked Sgt A to kill himself.
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Our CO then mentioned that it was fortunate that we train with blanks instead of live rounds.
Maybe it was pure survival instinct, that Sgt A didn't commit suicide despite the white figure telling him to. Maybe that particular didn't have enought "power". Or maybe it was the lack of lethal equipment, as he didn't have live rounds to shoot himself with. In any case, it's was fortunate that we didn't lose a life over the incident.
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For the skeptics out there, if you don't believe me there's nothing i can do.
If you don't believe Sgt A, please remember he had no need to reason to lie and cause a big hooha that involved the entire batallion of 400+ soldiers. If he was sick he could just have fallen out. I never knew this Sgt A well, as I was a spec in another coy, also, I was from an older batch of specs that passed out earlier. But his fellow coy specs that i was more friendly with told me that Sgt A isn't the "chao keng" type, more of the hardworking type (A was a regular btw).
And it's highly unlikely that Sgt A got lost in Tekong and invented the story. All Infantry specs spend 8 months "playing" in Tekong and are quite familiar with at least 75% of tekong ground having done exercise/torpor extensively on the island. Sgt A was a newer spec that had passed out of SISPEC not too long ago before the incident. Furthermore, all Sgts have a damn map and compass.
Lastly, he was less than 100m from the BUA. If he needed medical help, it was 100m away. And it's almost impossible that he got lost in the night. He was 100m away from all the light and noise that the rest of the coy was making in another part of the BUA ...
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eh... is that why the article on hillview mansion has disappeared?Originally posted by Sardaukar:Apologise for all the hot air between CX and me to others.back to topic.
I have hears numerous stories about the Tekong Charlie bunk and the true story is less dramatic.
Basically,in the 1980's some soldier in Charlie coy went on a route march and kena mati because of bad health,drink water and died of some sort of heat stroke/water poisoning/natural causes.Rest in Peace.
Charlie coy couldn't find the body when they did a check,and one of his superior officers find it the next day,in some dense jungle next to the track where they were marching.The body is in ok condition,no stand-by of organs or ET sticking out.So they brought the body back to the bunk and then transported it to main island for funeral.
Thing is,Charlie coy after that then reported that his spirit was supposedly trapped in the bunk because of the charms or something or other,dun reallly know the details.so the SAF bring in a priest to cleanse the bunk and help his spirit pass on,a process which involved building a 3rd door which was then sealed,with the bunk converted to other uses.
and there you have as close to the real version as possible.For more indepth you should ask some of the other veterans or go to Ah Toh or abductboy on the SPI forums.
as for SPI website not being updated,sorry but its hard to do a proper investigation and many that we do,the owner doesn't want us to feature their property due to public reaction or ridicule they might face.also,please note that paranormal phenomena is rare and 8 to 9 out of 10 times that we go to a place to check,nothing happens.Trust me,it isn't very glamorous.of course,those times we do get something,then its different.if you go to the Urban Explorer's thread,am trying to assemble a team for a one night investigation. -
wow meander, thats freaky. honestly... i do believe its better to believe than not to, as u'd be more cautious and wary of things. anyhows, was it a thurs nite?
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i suppose the malay school's quite a popular haunt!
I haven't heard much stories myself, but it was generally agreed that the malay school, plus the eastern jetty (dunno why - never heard any stories there) and the hot spring area (it certainly looked abit like hell's gate from the entrance, especially when i had to spend nites there twice sleeping on hammocks or gs bench with only another platoon mate waiting for trainees to pass through our topo checkpoint!). My indian platoon mate claims a woman spends time there (hot spring area)... which i doubt. Got a feeling there's more...
my personal experience... well not very personal, but close enough oso i guess, was during bmt training there. Afew hours after lights off (as if we got lights... haha... should be lanterns off), one of my mates wanted to do some big business... following the set protocol, i accompanied him from one of the classrooms to the drain just outside the window, and stood beside him and looking around while he shat (i don't think we were allowed to shit into the drain, but what the heck). After he's done, we went back to our spot on the ground in the classroom.
Then he asked me if i heard a woman's voice singing. And i was like... huh? duh? Nope. But he insisted he heard it clear, though not loud, and from one of the trees beside the road. I've no reason to doubt him (since i believe in such stuff anyway, having my fair share of creeps - though not visuals except one), but i just tell him not to think about it lah. We got so many men here, dun need to worry, will be fine in afew hours' time. Then went back to sleep. Dunno if he slept, but nothing strange happen from that incident. -
Ok, mine isn't scary at all but it does give me creeps becos it happen at around 2am at 'C' Coy, 46 SAR, just beside a room with a talisman on it. I was in the toilet doing a little business. I'm one of those who can feel their presence but can't see them. But that particular day, my sensors are sort of 'off'. As I'm standing at the urinal, I heard Chinese opera and in a company of 165 men not including specs, I doubt any of them listens to opera especially at that time. I just do it fast and buggered off. Phew, lucky me that nothing else happen during my stay there.
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I am one of those who is a bit 'blunt'.I cannot sense them.Never really seen them.But the evidence I have seen and examined is real and convincing.I believe as a scientific fact that they exist.Testimony from reliable sources is also a big factor.Anecdotal evidence.
the one on hillview mansion should still be in the archives.go to Google and to a search of the domain under "www.spi.com.sg".I'm not sure if it has been deleted,will ask the head honchos about it.
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I had one back in 1992 when I was jus a sect. led. We were having uncontrol topo ex in P.Tekong. Like most we move west to east in day and east to west in nite. End pt no where else but Ladang school. the old boys should knows, nearby the area had 2 muslim cemetery of which one is very small in area. It happened in the later.
We had complete all check pt. and heading back to end pt. by 2140hrs. As i knew we were near the cemetery i stop the sect and made a head count, equiment check and get the guys to drink some water. B4 i proceed I tell my guys we will moving into the cemetery as the end pt it jus over it. All happy to know end pt is nearby. never bother what cemetery it was. (btw we had pass by the cemetery in the day) Time check 2222hrs. i bring the sect in with me thinking to myself, should be able to reach by 2300hrs, latest 2330hrs.
Kay here come. Time check 2228hrs? What oni 6min had passed? I check with my pacer (2IC) how far we have moved from the last stop. What!!! Almost 1km. I stop the sect and head count again. All here. Time check with all and confirm now 2230hrs. In my mind now are;
1. Why oni 6min and it seem like 30min?
2. How did we move so fast in a pitch-dark closed terrain?
3. 1km? why we are still in here? It about 500m to 600m to get out of it.
Men start to ask why we stopped? I keep quiet... and say, ok from now all will pace 500m and stop. We move on and at 500m we halt. We are still in and the place look alike. Fxcked. by now we had cover almost 1.5km and all know what is going on but none say a words. Time check 2333hrs. I tell myself by 0000hrs if we are still in here, we will sleep here tonite.
So as a sect comd, I tell my men that we will walk another 500m, if we are still in here, we can oni camp here tonite. all agreed. before move out, i get the guy tie a comd-scour to one of the tree and move on. Another 500m, we are still in, time check, Fxcked again, oni 3min had gone by. I tell my mens let move on till 0000hrs, b4 long, the one with the comd-scour call to me say he had finish the roll. We halt for the last time. by now my section had cover more than 2 click near 3. Time check 2359hrs. Signal set not working so no way to call end pt.
Me just sleep through the nite, as for my men, none of them able to sleep.
Day break, we start to proceed back to end pt, by now all should have been back to the school now. b4 we move off the one who tie the comd-scour call me again. Sh|t. it the same tree where he tie the end to when I ask him to do that last nite. All of us move out from that area fast and for less than 300m, we hit T.Keong high way.
What a nite. It what they call GUI ZER YAN. Till today I still cannot figure why we move in circle. We were back to the pt where my men tie the comd-scour to a tree. -
Wah Josh.... seems like someone (not some"body" ) was being cheeky that night
Glad you guys made it, and weren't disturbed anymore other than just having the "stuck in a moment, out of nowhere" feeling.
Sure don't wan't that happen to me. although likewise i'd probably spend the nite there rather than trying to get out of an almost impossible situation. Am also the "sensitive" sort, but so far rarely had really negative encounters in Tekong... mostly i just silently tell "them" we only passing thru, no other intended and will be out soon.... of cos, i oso try to put the onus on "them" and ask them to look after our safety on their "territory" and not to be disturbed by others Usually after that the feeling of animosity fades away and things start to feel positive la... Seldom "think" of my taoist gods or deities in those situations unless it feels real bad b'cos its like asking for a help that is too far away, and only serves to generate more animosity. After all, we all gotta co-exist with each other in peace right? -
Yup...Originally posted by psykror7:Wah Josh.... seems like someone (not some"body" ) was being cheeky that night Glad you guys made it, and weren't disturbed anymore other than just having the "stuck in a moment, out of nowhere" feeling.
Sure don't wan't that happen to me. although likewise i'd probably spend the nite there rather than trying to get out of an almost impossible situation. Am also the "sensitive" sort, but so far rarely had really negative encounters in Tekong... mostly i just silently tell "them" we only passing thru, no other intended and will be out soon.... of cos, i oso try to put the onus on "them" and ask them to look after our safety on their "territory" and not to be disturbed by others Usually after that the feeling of animosity fades away and things start to feel positive la... Seldom "think" of my taoist gods or deities in those situations unless it feels real bad b'cos its like asking for a help that is too far away, and only serves to generate more animosity. After all, we all gotta co-exist with each other in peace right?