wat 3 weeks of NS have taught me
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- your area will never be clean enough.
- it is impossible to run up, pee and run back down within 2 minutes.
- there will also be someone that will screw up and the 49 others will suffer.
- you will wait 3 hours to see the MO, unless you're a sgt major, or you have a red beret.
- there's no reason to make the food taste good, with 20 minutes per meal, you barely have time to chew.
- the head and the hands do not work together, ie. OC tell those excused RMJ to march, when they march, they kena fuck by sgt.
- old injuries never heal, they only get worse. -
good for you!
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BMT's like that one lah....
sispec also same thing......
ocs i dunno......
reservist best. my rsm kpkb also no one listen. march like orchard road shopping. -
Seems like you have alot more to learn mate but you're getting there. Enjoy your stay at the finest resort SAF can offer
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just remember dun get personal... they just doing their job and u there to be trained..... and u still learn something right?? so just on ear in the other ear out.. and u will pop in no time.... chop chop one...trust mi
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might be OOTing. the exercises too strenous for my ankles, every morning wake up the pain getting worst and worst. nowadays even started walking with a limp.
upper body no problem though, dunno why alot of ppl getting muscle aches, i do 200 dips a night but i don't really feel any ache, though arms do feel alittle weak. -
i will try to remember this..but hard la. usually when u tired and angry. everything becomes personal.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):just remember dun get personal... they just doing their job and u there to be trained..... and u still learn something right?? so just on ear in the other ear out.. and u will pop in no time.... chop chop one...trust mi 
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really... it's their job to kpkb at u...it's the mental part of the training...dun believe me?..u try to for once do everything nice nice.... sure still will kena one....so just keep doing what they ask u without thinking...just OBEY THE ORDER, DUN THINK!!.. coz the more u think.... the more pissed u get...Originally posted by dumbdumb!:i will try to remember this..but hard la. usually when u tired and angry. everything becomes personal. -
Yah lor they don't want u to think but they keeping telling u about thinking soldiers, always contradict themselves.
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hmm.. nismo... u which coy? Mi in Alpha. last to book out last to book in..
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Hi, that's very normal for PTP/BMT, your body will get conditioned later. But if pain persist, you better check with doctor about it becos you may have seriously injured yourself. That's what happen to me when my shin fractured due to excess running.Originally posted by nismoS132:might be OOTing. the exercises too strenous for my ankles, every morning wake up the pain getting worst and worst. nowadays even started walking with a limp.
upper body no problem though, dunno why alot of ppl getting muscle aches, i do 200 dips a night but i don't really feel any ache, though arms do feel alittle weak. -
Your area will be clean enough, you all din put enough effort. it's all about division of labour and whether they bothered to do their job. Let me guess... given 1 hour area cleaning, you all sleep 40 mins and spend 20 mins cleaning.Originally posted by nismoS132:- your area will never be clean enough.
- it is impossible to run up, pee and run back down within 2 minutes.
- there will also be someone that will screw up and the 49 others will suffer.
- you will wait 3 hours to see the MO, unless you're a sgt major, or you have a red beret.
- there's no reason to make the food taste good, with 20 minutes per meal, you barely have time to chew.
- the head and the hands do not work together, ie. OC tell those excused RMJ to march, when they march, they kena fuck by sgt.
- old injuries never heal, they only get worse.
Running up and pee and run down in 2 minutes. it is possible. even on the 5th floor. Run up, 30 secs, pee 1 minutre, run down 30 secs. You dun want to run and took your time.
One cocks up and 49 others suffer. Really depends the nature of the cocking up. If it is because you the 49 others never bothered to tell that "one" how to do things the proper way, it shows the team spirit, thus the platoon has to suffer.
Takes 3 hours to see MO. Suck thumb. Too many ppl go see MO just to escape exercise. thus the queue. If you all only go there for genuine reasons, things can be faster. Muscle aches, headaches ARE NORMAL and go away. Go MO only if you have sharp muscle pain + swelling or any life threatening illnesses or fever and flu.
Food is OK. I wun say nice or bad. But the 20 minutes given to you, it is not a holiday camp. if the queue had been long, could have asked your DI for time extension. Otherwise 20 mins is enough. You will have an hour break after lunch, thus you just eat and f/o from the cookhouse, no need to chat and take your time.
Excused RMJ, go marching. Who is your OC? which company one? I talk to him. By right not supposed to march. unless OC things you chao keng get status only, then he asks you to march.
Old injuries do heal. Your pain is psychological and you simply blame old injuries. When you book out, REST. it's not for clubbing, football or basketball.
You all recruits blame SAF for every slightest thing without a deeper thought on what could have happen and what can you do to accomodate to the circumstances. SAF cannot cater to individual need. If so many cohorts before you could do it, you will not be the odd one out trying to change the system. -
i think there is no need to get so serious! he never said he was blaming the saf mah. and well, as u mentioned, hes still a recruit. few persons are born to feel at home in the military from day one. so its ok for them to complain - its only their first bk out! dont tell me u felt tt everyone was bright and sunny and ok and had no single complain or unhappiness the first time u bked out?Originally posted by Ponders:You all recruits blame SAF for every slightest thing without a deeper thought on what could have happen and what can you do to accomodate to the circumstances. SAF cannot cater to individual need. If so many cohorts before you could do it, you will not be the odd one out trying to change the system.
about thinking deeper, well, thrown into a totally unfamiliar and uncomfortable environment, a human mind would first want to ensure survival before delving deeper. once they are more or less adapted to the new environment, they would start to learn faster too - maslow's hierarchy of needs. -
ehOriginally posted by Ponders:You all recruits blame SAF for every slightest thing without a deeper thought on what could have happen and what can you do to accomodate to the circumstances. SAF cannot cater to individual need. If so many cohorts before you could do it, you will not be the odd one out trying to change the system.
ppl book out nia..
why wanna say this kinda demoralising words..
btw u some big fark in the army is it??
can talk to the coy OC..
anyway here not army camp..
if u wanna repirmand him u can go back to the farking camp to show power
but on the other side..
BMT nowadays are more slack compared to last time already..
nismo u realac ba..
it`ll be over sooner than u think..
i give u mental support..
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Well. I beg to differ. And let's look at reality. Reality.Originally posted by
Ponders:Your area will be clean enough, you all din put enough effort. it's all about division of labour and whether they bothered to do their job. Let me guess... given 1 hour area cleaning, you all sleep 40 mins and spend 20 mins cleaning.
In reality, the area can't be 100% clean. So if you're area is 0.1% dirty and the Sgt finds, then it's not clean, though 99.9% is clean.
I don't know. But that seems to be how things work in there.
Running up and pee and run down in 2 minutes. it is possible. even on the 5th floor. Run up, 30 secs, pee 1 minutre, run down 30 secs. You dun want to run and took your time.
A lot of factors must be included. But well, nothing is impossible
One cocks up and 49 others suffer. Really depends the nature of the cocking up. If it is because you the 49 others never bothered to tell that "one" how to do things the proper way, it shows the team spirit, thus the platoon has to suffer.
First time is always like that. So even if I know everything well to perfection and I made a mistake accidentally. The whole platoon goes down. Hey, I did know everything, but it's just happened accidentally
Takes 3 hours to see MO. Suck thumb. Too many ppl go see MO just to escape exercise. thus the queue. If you all only go there for genuine reasons, things can be faster. Muscle aches, headaches ARE NORMAL and go away. Go MO only if you have sharp muscle pain + swelling or any life threatening illnesses or fever and flu.
Yah. Too many people go see MO to escape exercise. But that's not the reason why people should wait 3 hours to see a MO. Are there that many people that you have to wait 3 hours? As many people as SGH?
Food is OK. I wun say nice or bad. But the 20 minutes given to you, it is not a holiday camp. if the queue had been long, could have asked your DI for time extension. Otherwise 20 mins is enough. You will have an hour break after lunch, thus you just eat and f/o from the cookhouse, no need to chat and take your time.
Food is okay. It's a luck thing.
Excused RMJ, go marching. Who is your OC? which company one? I talk to him. By right not supposed to march. unless OC things you chao keng get status only, then he asks you to march.
Pleaseeeee! So why did some Sgt have to die in some commando training? And why did 4 commandos have to be charged recently?
Old injuries do heal. Your pain is psychological and you simply blame old injuries. When you book out, REST. it's not for clubbing, football or basketball.
Will heal. But slowly, because of the physical activities thoughout the week
You all recruits blame SAF for every slightest thing without a deeper thought on what could have happen and what can you do to accomodate to the circumstances. SAF cannot cater to individual need. If so many cohorts before you could do it, you will not be the odd one out trying to change the system.
Managing people is never easy. The more people there are, the more inefficient the system is going to be. Esp so when the people don't have a choice to be in the system in the first place -
Originally posted by nismoS132:- your area will never be clean enough.
- it is impossible to run up, pee and run back down within 2 minutes.
- there will also be someone that will screw up and the 49 others will suffer.
- you will wait 3 hours to see the MO, unless you're a sgt major, or you have a red beret.
- there's no reason to make the food taste good, with 20 minutes per meal, you barely have time to chew.
- the head and the hands do not work together, ie. OC tell those excused RMJ to march, when they march, they kena fuck by sgt.
- old injuries never heal, they only get worse. One more from me...
- Time is cheap inside. -
yes so slack until a bit of saying, these bloody farker start to cry.Originally posted by BaByBoY:but on the other side..
BMT nowadays are more slack compared to last time already..
calling up their parents and complain to them. then the parent call back to coy line n complain to the OC and so on. some even gone to the extend of looking up for MP.
BMTC got too much welfare that majority of the soldiers these days are ah gua peng or climb over their superior head..
chao keng, dont wan to do things. den try to transfer the arrow to someone else. and when things cock up, u blame the nice person whom take the arrow for u. -
Originally posted by edLow:yes so slack until a bit of saying, these bloody farker start to cry.
calling up their parents and complain to them. then the parent call back to coy line n complain to the OC and so on. some even gone to the extend of looking up for MP.
BMTC got too much welfare that majority of the soldiers these days are ah gua peng or climb over their superior head.. Eh......This one really depends on the OC and CSM and the commanders.
There are many ways to make life miserable and YET no break any SAF regulations. It's a skill. -
sort of true...Originally posted by Parka: Eh......This one really depends on the OC and CSM and the commanders.
There are many ways to make life miserable and YET no break any SAF regulations. It's a skill.
it`s a skill..
sgt: DROP 20!!
rec: 1! 2! ...... 19 !
sgt: u all shout like gu niang! back to ZERO!!! -
try spelling it out better....Originally posted by BaByBoY:sort of true...
it`s a skill..
sgt: DROP 20!!
rec: 1! 2! ...... 19 !
sgt: u all shout like gu niang! back to ZERO!!!
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PS..Originally posted by Parka: One more from me...
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hahaOriginally posted by I-like-flings(m):try spelling it out better....
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haha will die man...
guess u muz be very much a saddist like i was..
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haiz... gonna book in later too.. at 9pm
me one of the latest coy to book out too.. hee..
all i can say bout the first three weeks is that .. before i went in.. i was so enthusiastic ... now i am soo sick of the army..
me in pegasus coy btw.. one of the shiongest coy in sch 2 i tink.. always kena tekan one.. -
yup.. mi nice Mr. flings now. heheOriginally posted by BaByBoY:haha
guess u muz be very much a saddist like i was..
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gd luck ah..Originally posted by kY|e-_-o:haiz... gonna book in later too.. at 9pm
me one of the latest coy to book out too.. hee..
all i can say bout the first three weeks is that .. before i went in.. i was so enthusiastic ... now i am soo sick of the army..
me in pegasus coy btw.. one of the shiongest coy in sch 2 i tink.. always kena tekan one..
suay u nv meet me
i bery welfare one