RSN Expansion ieas
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Our A-4SUs can be armed with Paveway LGBs and Mavericks for precision AG missions and not as you think only free-fall/dumb bombs.
Saying that an A-4 cant pull Gs is purely rubbish. I believe RSAF skyhawks' air frame have been strengthen during upgrades carried out.
Hell, the brazillians got their A-4s from kuwait for thair sao pulo carrier not too long ago. I believe IDF/AF is still using their A-4s though not in frontline service. -
OMG.... I dun know whether to laugh
or cry 
after reading the 7 pages. Has the disease spread from Speakers Corner. Some young bots here think they can be military expert or planners after reading the Jane Defence Weekly. I hope none of you are of SAF/ President scholar calibre.
Please respect the old vets here because they have been there, done that and they know more than you. Respect them and they will respect you. Be humble in seeking their opinion.
Back to the original topic.
SAF currently has a edge over its potential adversaries. I dun think there is a need to increase the gap further. If we were to increase our military spending drastically, our neighbours will do the same. An arms race will benefit nobody in the region.
Unless Singaporeans are prepare to eat grass like North Korean peasants, I dun see why we shd pour so much resouces into building such a mean military machine.
Our country's reserves is accumulated from the hard work of your grandfathers, fathers and young peasants like me. Please dun ask for money to buy expensive toys again.
With that I conclude.
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Lets not forget that the Black Knights use the classic A-4 for performing demanding stunts., Thus i believe the A-4SU can pull Gs of course, however how many Gs it can pull..., will be a tentative question.Originally posted by eurofighter:Saying that an A-4 cant pull Gs is purely rubbish. I believe RSAF skyhawks' air frame have been strengthen during upgrades carried out.
Despite the fact that the A-4SU cant pull the amount of Gs that an F-16 can pull, the A-4 is still a fine aircraft for her trade. If we will to look into the requirements of a CAS aircraft, the A-4SU dont not need to pull such demanding Gs as required for a Figther aircraft in dogfight. What we need, is a small aircraft capable of carrying a large load (relative to her size), have huge endurance in both range and loitering capability. The A-4 have it all. -
i got a close friend who works with A4-SU and he told me all about the A4-SU
F-16 can pull 9 Gs...the A-4 is much much lesser
the airframe has not changed abit..at all..it doesn't have a aerodynamic shape
i know how hard it is to accumulate those foreign reserves =)
If we don't use the $$ to defend our country
by that time comes..the other country will be using our foreign reserves
what im thinking is very simple , what u can't defend..you don't own..
Arms Race? There is already one going on..
no harm defending our country..make it a secret purchase =D
some things u can chose to announce..some..you don't have to =) -
Are you implying currently SAF is unable to defend SG ?Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:i got a close friend who works with A4-SU and he told me all about the A4-SU
F-16 can pull 9 Gs...the A-4 is much much lesser
the airframe has not changed abit..at all..it doesn't have a aerodynamic shape
i know how hard it is to accumulate those foreign reserves =)
If we don't use the $$ to defend our country
by that time comes..the other country will be using our foreign reserves
what im thinking is very simple , what u can't defend..you don't own.. -
Nope =)Originally posted by tspg:Are you implying currently SAF is unable to defend SG ?
There are many cases of A-4 wings being damaged after going high Gs..
Its a SAF slogan
"What you can't defend , you don't own"
i have no doubts about our military capability..
But due to hightening tensions..
China and taiwan is going to be the next flashpoint in Asia.
If USA+Taiwan is going to invade China..
we will be stucked..both is our good ally
Singapore will play a important role as it can choose to allow US ships to come in from the middle east..or to AID china by..not allowing them to park instead ..with no supplies..note that there is not many bases currently catering to US naval ships..
Singapore..FYI is one of the key "cards" in SEA , why? our base has a good infrastructure for thier Carrier..we offer them good facilities..We basically..in terms of relationship...closer to USA then malaysia or indonesia..
By having a larger force..we could be a more Non-Aligned status..when it comes..and more neutral..more pple will respect us like Switzerland..
If we choose to support China..USA will definitely not be happy with us..and might seriously hurt the relationship
If we support USA , China might pre-empt SG as well as TW..cause they might see us as siding with Taiwan now..whatever we say is useless by our foreign ministries..they don't even believe that it is unofficial..it is as though we are lying..why they would pre-empt?
-US ships will be unable to have access to proper facilities
-Also unable to use SG as a staging point against them..
-Ships coming from the middle east would have problems
-by having more weapons is a definite cause..
Those 2 have a high possibility of conflict when it comes to taiwan
Note that China is going to be far more powerful then Soviet Union..
under new brains and with much more populations and more advanced weapons taken from Russia -
A4-concept was in 1950+
haiz....
whereelse Harrier II ...is in 1970+ same age as F-16 and F-18
IMHO A-4 should have been phrased out due to it's weak airframe and inability to pull Gs.. even though with advanced avionics
it is the equivalent of upgrading a WWII Spitfire aircraft with ability to fire AIM-120 AMRAAM
The Harrier II is better then the A4-SU is many aspects..
for example the Harrier II does not require runways.
Just imagine..if a guerilla group manage to steal a Harrier II jet and operate it against the police force in the area..
They can VTOL ... hit and run... come out from hidden locations..conduct ambushes..
The most significant edge is indeed still VTOL , i must stress..
Helicopters are also VTOL ... but why a fighter jet VTOL?
the harrier can stay vertical for no more then 30 secs during it's entire flight time so it is highly impossible for a bunch of ppl to use it as a hit and run platform.This is due to the fact that the engine has to be cooled by WATER while it is in vertical flight and
Next up...the A4 pulls 6+G's and the AV8B pulls 8+G's.
Take off weight of the AV8B is maxed at around 14,000kg and it's max vertical take off weight is around 9,400kg while it's normal max take off is 14,000. It's empty weight is around 6,700kg.It's max internal fuel load is around 3,500. doing some maths with it's max internal fuel load u get 9,400-6,700-3,500=-800....meaning u cannot take of vertically with max fuel.So let's say we half that u get 950kg!!!Enough for 1 2000lbs(ard 900kg)bomb!!Let's say u give it a clean STOL take off using max fuel and max take off weight u get 14,000-6,700-3,400=3900kg or 4 bombs and maybe 1 or 2 Aim-9's
Now we look at the A4M. Max take off weight is around 11,500kg.It's weight is around 4,700 empty.Since i cannot find out how much it's max fuel weight is ill assume it is the same as the AV8B to give it a fair guess. That's 3,500. So we have 11,500-4,700-3,500=3300kg or around 3 bombs and 2 Aim-9's.
Max range is 277km for the harrier and 3,307km for the A4
Oh wait i just found some good stats for a better comparasion rather then my lame maths
AV8B
7711 kg (17,000 lb) or VTO total of 3175 kg (7,000 lb) of weapons on 6 hard points
A4
2268 kg of weapons on 5 hardpoints.
i think this is for the standard load becuz i'm sure the A-4 can carry more if it had less fuel. Also this is the standard A4 and not our A4SU which i think has better engines and thus carrying ability.
So far most websites have this to say.
The AV8B and the British Pegasus(which is better) are CAS planes and usually is best used with 120km range and with 12 MK82 bombs with 1 drop tank and 1 hr flight time.For CAP it usually is loaded up with 200km range and 4 Aim9's and 2 Aim120's
My personal Opinion
The Harrier is a good CAS plane with it's STOL and VTOL capabilites.However it's range is extermely limited and it's role is way way to specialize for it to be cost effective for us.So i think buying it will not be good since it is going to be replaced by the JSF which we mayb get anyway.The A4 is an old bird...and has served us really well in the early days as a CAP plane and now as a CAS plane.Though it may not have the VTOL ability of the harrier it's longer range(thus longer loiter time) is great for us as it make it easier for us to keep the plane in the bloody air instead of landing it to refuel like the harrier.The harrier if it has to keep landing will then have to either use up it's stores or carry up less....ALOT less.Either that or refuel in the air which i think wont be as good becuz it's not very efficient.Since the A4's are going to be replaced by the NGF's with the F-16's taking over the role of CAS,i see no reason to get the harrier at all.
Anyway back on topic
The LST's are used at support ships and what not.So having choppers on them wld be alot better then having harriers on them since the RSAF can provide all the air cover needed.If it cannot then we're screwed anyway. -
I have to say that this is one of your better posts.You are right, Singapore and Malaysia are the wildcards in any East Asian conflict for we control the Straits of Malacca and the airspace that stretches across the Spratlys.Our countries' naval power can project till the Spratlys and the Indian Ocean.Who we choose to align ourselves then will be important and we should be wise to decide carefully.Much as we want, we cannot stay neutral because that right to status of alignment will be decided by powers greater than us.I say Singapore might support the US in this case, judging by the fact that Singapore has a current climate that only sees China in an economic light.We are pragmatic, and we will do whatever serves our interests well.China may want to appeal to our ethnicity but that is sorely mistaken.It is presumptious to think our generation and the next will have any feeling for China, once our fathers and grandfathers' generation pass on.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Nope =)
There are many cases of A-4 wings being damaged after going high Gs..
Its a SAF slogan
"What you can't defend , you don't own"
i have no doubts about our military capability..
But due to hightening tensions..
China and taiwan is going to be the next flashpoint in Asia.
If USA+Taiwan is going to invade China..
we will be stucked..both is our good ally
Singapore will play a important role as it can choose to allow US ships to come in from the middle east..or to AID china by..not allowing them to park instead ..with no supplies..note that there is not many bases currently catering to US naval ships..
Singapore..FYI is one of the key "cards" in SEA , why? our base has a good infrastructure for thier Carrier..we offer them good facilities..We basically..in terms of relationship...closer to USA then malaysia or indonesia..
By having a larger force..we could be a more Non-Aligned status..when it comes..and more neutral..more pple will respect us like Switzerland..
If we choose to support China..USA will definitely not be happy with us..and might seriously hurt the relationship
If we support USA , China might pre-empt SG as well as TW..cause they might see us as siding with Taiwan now..whatever we say is useless by our foreign ministries..they don't even believe that it is unofficial..it is as though we are lying..why they would pre-empt?
-US ships will be unable to have access to proper facilities
-Also unable to use SG as a staging point against them..
-Ships coming from the middle east would have problems
-by having more weapons is a definite cause..
Those 2 have a high possibility of conflict when it comes to taiwan
Note that China is going to be far more powerful then Soviet Union..
under new brains and with much more populations and more advanced weapons taken from Russia -
Note that China is going to be far more powerful then Soviet Union..
Note also that due to Politics,if Russia see's China getting to strong she will cosy up to the US and heck even join Nato or some freaky allience with the US.So when China invades Taiwan,the US steps in with Japan and with Russia joining in and maybe even India taking advantage will see China extremely stretched.Dont forget Tibet,inner mongolia and xinjing?(the western muslim province i dunno the name though) rebelling giving the central government real shit.Do not forget that oil will be cut frm both Russia and the rest of the world.Making China ending up screwed.
under new brains and with much more populations and more advanced weapons taken from Russia
If China wants war it had better be done in 3 years otherwise as it's economy gets more intertwined with the rest of the world the less it can afford a war.
However with the US caught up like it is now it can ill afford another war too.As it is,US is already close to it's breaking point -
The National Security Advisor..Ms Rice..just warned China that it will interfere with Taiwan and China itself oso mean business..so sad..
Some of my friends say will support US..
the older generation say will support China..
We are like so close to both of them..no wonder The East and West..
If the East happens to challenge the West..its a real sticky situation
going against a No.1 Superpower and democracy values..and a chinese friend who helped us and support SAF..
going against a No.1 Best Economy Ally and a commie..a chinese friend with shared culture of chinese new year..and 1.3 billion people..
Anyway if i were to see the DPM , i will surely ask him this question..
den after that outside..will kana catch by ISD.
My Support goes to peace..if really battle going to be very ugly
Singapore oso cannot afford to stay neutral at that time..to help own "race"
or to help a good friend..
Only hope is to exercise restraint. Or improve armed forces , for larger scale conflicts..SAF is built to withstand large conflicts..so..i believe this is a true crucial point for SAF in the next 20 years
Looking around..the neighbouring will not pose a threat to us until 2030?
Anyway lets bring in more chinese fr. china to boost our population??
haha
Cause..
-US warships will be nearby and keep on asking us for entrance into our naval base.
-China will request for us..to damage the warship or not to allow entry
-if US warship passes a double prong attack from South China Sea
and Taiwanese straits and CBG from Korea and Jp likely to come in
We can't trust china even though mr.lee has visited many times..
if they can do it to thier own race by causing a conflict..we may never know..
what?? harrier II range few hundred km only?? how did it served in iraq war??
omg..that is like only for 15 minutes if it goes for mach 1 speed..den need to reffuel??
Nah i think ur wrong =) the harrier range is 1600 miles or converted into km = 2560 km..
max speed is about 1 mach ..=/
anyway with regards to speed..could we like buy it and modify the engines like A4-Su and make it go like Mach 1.5 or 1.6?
that would be super cool as well
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/av8b/av8bspec.htm
guess my url would be more accurate as it comes from the maker himself =)
basically if we wanna go VTOL , we can choose between F-35 and Harrier II
or perhaps a Harrier III =/
The Harrier II in terms of comparison with F-15 and FA-18 clearly loses out
but i only hope that the Harrier II could be compared with those helicopters..
When will we get back the AIM-120 Missiles from USA? or was it returned?
interesting article
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article17.html -
Nah i think ur wrong =) the harrier range is 1600 miles or converted into km = 2560 km..
actually since it comes frm the maker the more i wld suspect it
max speed is about 1 mach ..=/
anyway with regards to speed..could we like buy it and modify the engines like A4-Su and make it go like Mach 1.5 or 1.6?
that would be super cool as well
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/av8b/av8bspec.htm
guess my url would be more accurate as it comes from the maker himself =)
basically if we wanna go VTOL , we can choose between F-35 and Harrier II
or perhaps a Harrier III =/
The Harrier II in terms of comparison with F-15 and FA-18 clearly loses out
but i only hope that the Harrier II could be compared with those helicopters..
When will we get back the AIM-120 Missiles from USA? or was it returned?
interesting article
http://www.f-16.net/f-16_users_article17.html
anyway i dont think i'm wrong.I quoted the max range for CAS and CAP
the Max range on the site is consistent with the max range i get for ferry configuration.Meaning Max internal fuel plus Max external fuel with out weapons.most of the sources online point to 1600nm++++ range some even go as high as 1900nm
As for speed?No site neither books point towards it being able to break the sound barrier...but no the harrier cannot be compare with choppers.Why? because they are used for different purposes.
and i doubt the A4's can break the barrier.....the airframes most likely cannot take it!
Oh and we took back the Aim-120 earlier this yr so yea we have them
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oh and take a look at this
http://www.boeing.com/defense-space/military/av8b/av8bspec.htm
http://www.boeing.com/history/mdc/harrier.htm
same plane....diff parts of the webby......different info...... -
ya hor the range is different..=/
look at this post by a "smart" person
http://users3.cgiforme.com/javad/messages/4823.html -
another kid who doesnt know what he is talking about.....he already contradicts himself.
Anyway back on topic I believe if we get another say 4-6 more frigates then we're good!!!Maybe even 1 of them Aegis armed frigates!!!
then no need spend money on long range fixed air defence.We'd have moving long range air defence C&C ships which can handle it all!!Granted the ships might need more people but hey well worth it 
New subs? i dont know....from what i know about the waters around here subs arent really good....but then again i'm not a sub operator so i wont even know -
Haiz... I give up. Tot of posting something here to help clear somebody's misconceptions but its really too much work. After what happen in speaker's corner, I give up hope on all young bots liao.
Last post for this thread. Nothing more I want to say.
Guys enjoy your weekend ! -
Then again..is our subs better then the scorpene class stuff??
the frigates would be good ^^
if increase by like 4 more ..but then again...
our RSN is still not large enough to handle piracy threats
i don't understand..our navy is 1 of the best in the region
yet there will be pple who get robbed in the singapore straits..
time for us to equip more helicopters armed with mini rockets to pursue those damned pirates..
the reason why m'sia and indonesia took so long to conduct joint patrols is simple..they don't benefit the most when it comes to sea-trading..singapore does =/
only when usa is interested to patrol then they quickly realise it..
We need more influence..but then the only logical reason why our ships don't really patrol the singapore straits is becuz simply..the sea lanes is too congested for RSN to come thru.
wow 100 AIM-120 AMRAAM is surely deadly.
Our malacca straits is one of the most pirated infested regions..
And you all know where those pirates come from? Definitely not from SG
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I've read in the papers quite some time ago that during a performance by the Black Knights, the A-4SU broke the sound barrier probably in a dive or something at around mach 1.3/1.4.
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with regards to sound barrier...when a aircraft breaks sound barrier it will create a sound called sonic boom at mach 1..thats when the speed of the plane surpasses the sound it creates
i don't understand why CN army keep on threatening US..
a fleet of F-22 Air superiority fighters will render CN forces defeated ,
if CN wanna be so stubborn and claim a group of pple who are unwilling
most likely they will fight til the death
In any military conflict..USA has almost been involved..
and ready for these type of stuffs
USA will not wish to lose it's pacific ground..considering they have such a massive buildup of ships in pacific = more confrontation in the future..
Let taiwan remain that way..
Taiwan in every aspect , is a independent country..
Communists themselves by analysing the country's history is the rebel ..
Why? KuoMinTang last time before 1949 were the controlling power ..
its the communists who were the rebels...and took over power from democractic and chased them to taiwan..
anyway if u compare a matchup with china and US+TW combined force with 7 CBG....i surely wouldn't fight on the side of China..Why?
China is bound to lose if it declares war on TW ..cause it will be a freaking long term war..China's economy is only 1/10 ...if lose $$ and investors oso not worth it...
Surely THERE can be a 1 China Policy..But How Will Chen compromise?
Chen will only compromise when he becomes the whole united china's president and the communist give up power to the democrats?
possible? never ..cause when it reunnites he will lose power..lose control
lose everything..and become a figure head governor
even when there's a latest news report on the T-shirts which shows china and taiwan with the taiwan words " you are mine forever"
caused so many pple to be upset
Conclusion? : taiwanese pple don't want to lose freedom and be part of communist china
the problem with communism is so many problems..took china about so many years after the cultural revolutions and the purging of the academics ..THEN finally progressed.
China sure is huge , If every pple on earth who has the same race has to be a united country..then wouldn't it be so nasty..
Just take a look if malaysia and indonesia same race NEED not necessarily be of same country.
so close to each other..same area of land..
Just be content..prolly next time u may have access to the Pacific using taiwan as a base..
USA will not let china take over taiwan..Why?
Taiwan will be used against USA in the future..USA will see a threat in it's pacific influence...almost 90% of the warships thronging the pacific is belonging to USA..
Their main priority is to keep china well contained..with taiwan..korea..and japan .. shut out the access ? =/ -
And why has the discussion suddenly shifted to Taiwan?
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Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
Wow lau your damn skin here very thick, shoot M16 at 100m then come here to talk big ! Shoot sar21 only after lining up for one whole day to beg for it then people let you shoot, Mp15 tested - sound more like let you hold for a while then come and boast ! Wow lau shoot so little type of guns compare to all the folks here, and come here to boast , go home drink your milk and change your pampers 1st .
Nah my marksmanship shooting is
PURE OILY M-16 AT 100 METRE RANGE IN Amoy camp
and btw that was my 1st time trying out
THe SAR-21 WAS THE PLACE where i queued up whole day to have a 1st hand civilian try at it..
and i tested the Mp-5..i like the weight and the machoness
the gun design is not bad..
The M-16 has a even distribution of weight around the whole gun
regarding the Mp-5 the weight is more centered around the butt and the trigger
it was at point blank RANGE!
yeap and 1 thing is for sure
Nuclear powered aircraft carrier travels at 40+ knots at top
American Naval Carriers at 1942..for example the Essex which carries 91 aircraft could achieve a speed of 32 knots
i was just assuming China uses 1 variety of missile
that is the sunburn missile
china FYI uses alot of varieties of stuff
Nah i was taking the [b]1.5 KILO per hour taken from the article above
lazy to convert into knots..
He Who Says Pple Act Smart and Pretend to Know Everything is better den himself acting dumb
pig save it for urself..make bak qua and shuff it up ur *** =)
go stimulate ur male G-spot
anyway i heard the our Fearless PV travels at 20 knots ++?
Perhaps til SR-71 is comparable to MAV-1 den prolly maybe will be more shiok
Maybe we should get a B-52 H and upgrade it with AC-130 type of guns and rotary cannons and carry some SRAM tactical nukes and make it a even more lethal version of AC-130..
AC-130 is definitely a good weapon to look at after achieving air supremacy with F-16 and F-5 And the A4-SU..
After neutralizing the SAMs ..or the B-52 H modified could be used to go on a bombing run... on enemy bases..
I just happened to feel that A4-SU could not carry a wide range of payload for bombs..with more bombs around the fuselage ..but will reduce the ability to pull Gs and to dogfight..
i think if next time when expanding power..we should look at bomber plane instead of fighter/bomber..coz dropping off 1 or 2 bombs from a multirole aircraft isnt going to hurt the enemy much..
Anyway can C-130 Hercules carry bombs? other den parachuters and
etc.. last time sit inside a C-130 very shiok feeling..my hand was so near to the door at mid-air..if accidentally pull the handle..can fly out liao LOL..
C-130 has many variants like AC-130 and stuff and MC-130 Combat Talons..
i know that our C-130 can air-cargo drop Bionix thats the beauty of
AIR+LAND working together
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sigh... bad history student...Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Communists themselves by analysing the country's history is the rebel ..
Why? KuoMinTang last time before 1949 were the controlling power ..
its the communists who were the rebels...and took over power from democractic and chased them to taiwan.. -
i would rather think tat he does not take history ...Originally posted by CX:sigh... bad history student... -
Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
It is so shameful to see someone who didn't do his home work on the Skyhawk A-4. Have more respect for the A-4 , it is one mean machine which any pilot whether F15, F14, F18, F16 or harrier, will give a lot of respect. This is one mean plane that have proven itself in vietnam and middle east. It is also used in the Top gun school, the old trainees and instructors from there will laugh till death, if you tell them the Skyhawk cannot pull Gs !!! You moron, the skyhawks there have been out fighting F14s, F18s till they are retired, cannot pull Gs, then they sure pull shit over you.
The problem is..which general is going to risk it all
by not arming the A4-SU with AIM-9X and stuffs
i rather they carry 1 or 2 JDAM smart bombs which hit the target rather den 10 to 20 bombs which spread over target..if miss might kill some innocent pple
the SAF is not a merciless killing force..if it is..then it would have lost it's principle in the 1st place
Furthermore, even though there may be escorts , there may be alot of problems when it comes to escort..the formation might need to break up sometimes to engage enemies coming from different directions
when the fighter escorts..say F-16 engaging up 12 o clock north faces
threats from 3 and 9 o clock at a similar timing ...the A4-SU might need to defend itself..
F-16 will be used for bigger missions..of course =)
But im thinking that the F-16 will go first in the event of a conflict to maintain aerial superiority
A4-SU and Harrier II..which 1 better?
A-4 has not seen any major conflicts since Falklands war..
but Argentinian A-4 has managed to fire a missile onto a british warship..causing severe damage
A4-concept was in 1950+
whereelse Harrier II ...is in 1970+ same age as F-16 and F-18
IMHO A-4 should have been phrased out due to it's weak airframe and inability to pull Gs.. even though with advanced avionics
it is the equivalent of upgrading a WWII Spitfire aircraft with ability to fire AIM-120 AMRAAM
The Harrier II is better then the A4-SU is many aspects..
for example the Harrier II does not require runways.
Just imagine..if a guerilla group [b]manage to steal a Harrier II jet and operate it against the police force in the area..
They can VTOL ... hit and run... come out from hidden locations..conduct ambushes..
The most significant edge is indeed still VTOL , i must stress..
Helicopters are also VTOL ... but why a fighter jet VTOL?
It combines many platforms together..and also boosts the concept..of defending singapore..we must be prepared for many scenarios..one of which enemy might attack and destroy runways and remember nothing is 100%
as i have highlighted in my above war scenario 1..it is indeed crucial for VTOL even as for a naval aircraft or a RSAF plane..
If it is not crucial..why even F-35 SVTOL variants in the first place?
The Harrier II in simple terms..has easy take off and landing as a helicopter
but PACKS the punch of a fighter plane.
The Harrier II may be weaker and require CAS..but one should not ignore the ability of it..
Like a guerilla warfare machine..Lets push our scenario back to southern islands of singapore..
If the main runways are gone..(ignore the usage of highways for tengah jets)
the southern islands are TOO small to have any..stretched run way for F-16 or A4-Su..
solution? get the Harrier II ASAP...[/b]
Yes may be old, but it is still very good and effective. The falkland wars is not a good judge of a comparison of harrier and skyhawk. The harrier have the advantage of better pilots and the new 9L sidewinder.
Singapore A4-SU is a better machine, not just convention bombs but guided ones, which is very acurate.
Yep why are you comparing so much into Gs, a bomber and a fighter have different roles. Look at all the famous strike bombers - intruders they are little in Gs, but they get their job done. Yep next you be writing to US airforce to tell them to about Gs - B52 is no good, for lack of Gs. -
one thing...sibeisuaykia, if we are to get planes which can pull the 9gs an f16 can, can you find more pilots that can pull a sustained 9G? currently, with our mixed figther fleet, the main barrier for pilots to get into the f16, is the 9g requirement. right now, not all of the f5 or a4 guys can withstand the 9gs. what will happen when the f5 and a4 is replaced by craft like the eurofighter than go to 9g+? results in a situation where the planes will not be flying to their full capabilities(at first at least.). currently already RSAF short of pilots, and no way are they going to lower their standards to get more guys in. besides, what's the point when you need guys who can pull sustained 9g?
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Folks think Singapore found the most powerful weapon - Sibeisuaykia.
just send him to war !
Reason.
1) He is so thick skin that nothing can penerate.
2) He never give up, even he is totally wrong.
3) He is good in switch to other area if one fails.
4) He got no time to use brain for reasoning, so blindly just fight enemy
5) He can bullshit till a pebble become a mountain. Very good to frightened the enemy to shit.
Well Enemy beware !!! Singapore have Sibeisuaykia !