rationale behind....
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paying recruits 350 a mth as allowance ?
though i m not longer a recruit anymore, i am still wondering the rationale behind this ?
i know its previously 240, but still 350 is still not enuff.. -
Don't worry about it.. latest news is from August on it's gonna change to 455. That's the month I go in lol.... So although if it's still not enough, the government has this theory that they are paying for EVERYTHING. Food, Lodging everything. And the Sargeants in the army tell you "The Gahmen is paying you all to do star jump, do pumping..." So there... Although I prefer if NS got scraped
This is actually pretty good money already -
wah so much $$ man, I remembr used to queue up at ATM to withdraw my 210 bucks.Originally posted by DXuan:Don't worry about it.. latest news is from August on it's gonna change to 455. That's the month I go in lol.... So although if it's still not enough, the government has this theory that they are paying for EVERYTHING. Food, Lodging everything. And the Sargeants in the army tell you "The Gahmen is paying you all to do star jump, do pumping..." So there... Although I prefer if NS got scraped This is actually pretty good money already
Wah SAF now really welfare, 455 everyweek bookout can go geylang .. -
Pay me 455 to die?
No thanx
i rather treat it as a "labour" of love
zz
i spent 2 years of my life..when i pursue my master and phd later on
i will be able to earn almost 100k a year..
455 ..im rich enough to pay this amount to someone monthly for him to take my place in NS..anyone?
if give bill gates 2 years xtra to live..guess how many billions he would make?
i guess bill gates's 2 years of Opportunity cost > us. -
why do u say 350 is not enuff?Originally posted by ah_tee:paying recruits 350 a mth as allowance ?
though i m not longer a recruit anymore, i am still wondering the rationale behind this ?
i know its previously 240, but still 350 is still not enuff..
and remember it is an allowance not a pay -
$455!!!Originally posted by DXuan:Don't worry about it.. latest news is from August on it's gonna change to 455. That's the month I go in lol.... So although if it's still not enough, the government has this theory that they are paying for EVERYTHING. Food, Lodging everything. And the Sargeants in the army tell you "The Gahmen is paying you all to do star jump, do pumping..." So there... Although I prefer if NS got scraped This is actually pretty good money already
Looking at the miserable amount i was taking back then, its more than doubled! -
well, unless there is B&W stating the increase, else it could be some hearsayOriginally posted by ditzy:$455!!! Looking at the miserable amount i was taking back then, its more than doubled! -
I remembered mine was $135... -
You must be "chao" private, I'm chao lancecorperOriginally posted by erijazz:
I remembered mine was $135...
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ello ello, aren't we talking about recruits' allowance here?Originally posted by arburthen?:You must be "chao" private, I'm chao lancecorper 
Originally posted by ah_tee:paying recruits 350 a mth as allowance ?
though i m not longer a recruit anymore, i am still wondering the rationale behind this ?
i know its previously 240, but still 350 is still not enuff.. -
kids nowadays.... give them $1k they still say no enough one lah.... knn.... dunno how they spend money one...
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It's through that if you had the 2 years of your life you probably could get the 100k a year like you said. But he started his own company with his childhood friend and he made breakthroughs which benefitted us and of cos gave us trouble(look at all the loopholes in winxpOriginally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Pay me 455 to die?
No thanx
i rather treat it as a "labour" of love
zz
i spent 2 years of my life..when i pursue my master and phd later on
i will be able to earn almost 100k a year..
455 ..im rich enough to pay this amount to someone monthly for him to take my place in NS..anyone?
if give bill gates 2 years xtra to live..guess how many billions he would make?
i guess bill gates's 2 years of Opportunity cost > us.). "While at Harvard, Gates developed a version of the programming language BASIC for the first microcomputer " It would not be special if everyone did the same. But he was the first dood to do it.
And the fact is 455 may not be a lot, and I'd say it's a vast improvement because these few years this has been the second increase if I'm not wrong.
Moreover the army is not sending you to die... They are merely preparing you for emergency situations like wars and stuff, although we would not be able to defend ourselves anywayz *laughs*
I myself believe the army is going to be the 'best school' I'm ever gonna attend. In the army, you learn about survival and bonding. In school they teach you to study and score grades. But how many actually come out being mentally strong and healthy? You might make 100k a year but if you don't take care of your health, all the money you earned would just be invested in your health in you later years anyway.
Well feel free to contradict me
I'm still young and I need to learn from others too. -
no no it start of oni $75. it for you to buy black tape, meal bag, zip lock bag, coms-cord etc etc... hey PT shoes NB or Brooks now no need to buy yourself oredi, my time we using black SAF REEBOK leh, white for PTI oni, no choice must buy ourselves leh...Originally posted by ah_tee:paying recruits 350 a mth as allowance ?
though i m not longer a recruit anymore, i am still wondering the rationale behind this ?
i know its previously 240, but still 350 is still not enuff..
they pay 100, they take back 99. just take and shut-up. -
Army roadmarch chant o.Othey pay 100, they take back 99. just take and shut-up. -
hi guys
i know u guys been thru more than me
but then i was jus thinking, even the poly attachment student is getting MORE than a LANCE CORPORAL pay
the reasons i can think of y gahment is doing this is maybe they wan everyone to strive to become specs, become comssioned officers, but they left out the lower educated one, who can onli be LCPL, perhaps CPL, or those downgraded personnels.
We are in the 21st century and sg is a developed country, so does living standards are naturally higher,
National Service to some is shit work, cos we have to take abuse from the upp ranks, everyone has a story to share dont they ? when i was a recruit, even PTEs Storeman try to play punk, when i was on atten B, Serg throw my status slip on the floor and fall in 5 mins full battle order.. i didnt complain, i tried to tell myself that this is a test for myself...
Wuming, u asked wads wrong wif 350, i rem vividly u were a commionsed officer correct?
theoritically, if we dun go out on wkends, dun eat out, eat bread, drink plain water, dun use hp, still can make it, but then think again, all the sufferings from wkends, mus we still torture ourselves like this ?
if they can afford to give regulars so much more above the norm market, y not jus really take a look at NSFs, at the standards of living now, 350 is definitely not enuff,
my friend posted to TUAS naval base, he stay in tampinese, leaving the travelling time alone, the 350 givent to him may most likely have 50% given to public transport.
My boss is a MWO, office hrs is 10hrs, but then most of the time got to work 12-14 hrs, minimum also OT 1 hr per day, he has this sorta mentality mus prove something to other WO, he dosent like to go home in my squad, everyone suffer, i jus feel if they dun restrict extended working hrs, maybe they can consider the fact to look at the pay.
My previous job, i have my blanglas on my instruction, they are paid 18 dollars daily, the thais are paid 22 dollars, and they have OT pay
does having offering my service to the country much more worthless than foereign labour workers?
If u ask me now somehow i feel the gahment is taking NSFs for granted, jus becos they are bound by the enlistment act means they can be paid anyhow...
i know its not a pay, but having a allowance where 50percent of it will be on ur transport is not getting anywhere, and not all people have rich parents to dpend on, my BMT mate, gives everything to his parents, his total pay to his parents, cos his family really need it, of cos its absurd to ask for 1k-2k, but maybe it be something comparable to a factory worker?
if one day theres need to, i will still pickup my AR15 to fight, but am i fighting for myself, or for my country? -
the pay raise part, i heard it mths ago, till now nothing official yet, hopefully its true
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but then i was jus thinking, even the poly attachment student is getting MORE than a LANCE CORPORAL pay
But attachment in most cases never bao1 the food, accomodation and transport costs.
SAF food is well-balanced meal. Maybe a bit bland or CMI, but they give you enough vitamin C every day. Come on, how many of you eat a whole orange everytime you eat orange? Not to mention the night snacks. I think the bread prepared by SFI not bad.
if they can afford to give regulars so much more above the norm market, y not jus really take a look at NSFs, at the standards of living now, 350 is definitely not enuff,
Hey hey, people sell their life to SAF leh ... so noble of them .. of course they deserve the $$$ .. haha
my friend posted to TUAS naval base, he stay in tampinese, leaving the travelling time alone, the 350 givent to him may most likely have 50% given to public transport.
He stay out personnel ah? Then too bad lor, if you stay in, transport fee won't be that high.
My previous job, i have my blanglas on my instruction, they are paid 18 dollars daily, the thais are paid 22 dollars, and they have OT pay
Hey hey, blanglas don't have such well-balanced meal I think. And they're exposed more to the hot sun than recruits. And do they sleep on king koil?
You do a suvey lor. If NS is do blanglas work, how many are willing to switch? In return for their pay.
i know its not a pay, but having a allowance where 50percent of it will be on ur transport is not getting anywhere, and not all people have rich parents to dpend on, my BMT mate, gives everything to his parents, his total pay to his parents, cos his family really need it, of cos its absurd to ask for 1k-2k, but maybe it be something comparable to a factory worker?
I think your friend can sort it out with SAF with regards to financial assistance. You can't expect them to give factory worker salary to every recruit. Unless the recruit signs on, this isn't really fair to MINDEF.
if one day theres need to, i will still pickup my AR15 to fight, but am i fighting for myself, or for my country?
You what generation one? Now people use SAR-21 liao lah, at least M16S1. -
hm.. yes i am a commissioned officer. but dont forget i was a recruit before that.Originally posted by ah_tee:hi guys
but then i was jus thinking, even the poly attachment student is getting MORE than a LANCE CORPORAL pay
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Wuming, u asked wads wrong wif 350, i rem vividly u were a commionsed officer correct?
theoritically, if we dun go out on wkends, dun eat out, eat bread, drink plain water, dun use hp, still can make it, but then think again, all the sufferings from wkends, mus we still torture ourselves like this ?
if they can afford to give regulars so much more above the norm market, y not jus really take a look at NSFs, at the standards of living now, 350 is definitely not enuff,
If u ask me now somehow i feel the gahment is taking NSFs for granted, jus becos they are bound by the enlistment act means they can be paid anyhow...
i know its not a pay, but having a allowance where 50percent of it will be on ur transport is not getting anywhere, and not all people have rich parents to dpend on, my BMT mate, gives everything to his parents, his total pay to his parents, cos his family really need it, of cos its absurd to ask for 1k-2k, but maybe it be something comparable to a factory worker?
if one day theres need to, i will still pickup my AR15 to fight, but am i fighting for myself, or for my country?
and many many more years ago, i was a recruit then LCP too. so in effect i was a recruit twice.
i wont argued that 350 is enough to support one's monthly expenses totally. but i like to put forward some info - my own but perhaps could serve as an example.
currently i spend 500 a month. that includes eating out one meal everyday, and travelling to and from work everyday, + weekend entertainments, and the occasional buying of weekly magazines and CD/DVD every now and then.
for an NSF, all his weekdays are spent in camp, all meals catered for, no transportation needed. most of the time, the only time when he can spend is during weekends when he books out. and he gets 350 as an allowance not salary, and only for the time when he is a recruit.
so if u ask me if 350 is enough if i revert back to the NSF kind of lifestyle, i say yes it is, for me.
not sure if it is for others, and i cant say whether my lifestyle is extreme or average. -
LOL , who says SAF can't pay
it was a excuse when SAF was small thats why can't pay
Switzerland oso pays it citizen more den 455 SGD -
They should make it $888 for good luck
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frankly speaking those in service side 350 bucks is not enuff
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They expect too much for too little.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):kids nowadays.... give them $1k they still say no enough one lah.... knn.... dunno how they spend money one... -
Be far to the combat side lor.Originally posted by duotiga83:frankly speaking those in service side 350 bucks is not enuff -
yeap...Originally posted by ah_tee:the pay raise part, i heard it mths ago, till now nothing official yet, hopefully its true
dun always believe rumours... SAF rumours very very very inaccurate one.. wait they increase liao then say ...