SOPMOD M4 Assault Rifle.
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SOPMOD M4 Accessory Kit
The Special Operations Peculiar Modification (SOPMOD)I M4A1 Kit was developed by USSOCOM (United States Special Operations Command) for use with units under its jurisdiction. The kit features an M4A1 rifle, a Rail Interface System http://www.gun-world.net/USA/M16/M4/ar9.jpg(RIS) handguard system developed by Knight's Armament (KAC), a shortened quick-detacheable M203 grenade launcher and leaf sight, a KAC silencer, KAC rear back-up sight, an Insight Technologies AN/PEQ2a visible laser/infrared designator, along with Trijicon ACOG, Reflex optics and a nightvision sight. This kit was designed to be configurable (modular) for various missions and the kit is in service right now with Special Operations units (though many operators have dumped the Trijicon Reflex sight for Aimpoint red dot sights and EOTech holographic sights).
A 2nd generation SOPMOD (now known as SOPMOD II) is currently under development, with many different manfacturers competing for a contract. Notable manfucturers include Knight's Armament Corp and the URX, ARMS and their Selective Integrated Rail (SIR) system, along with Lewis Machine & Tool.
Note the drum magazine fitted to this fine specimen.
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It call the C-Mag.Originally posted by LazerLordz:SOPMOD M4 Accessory Kit
Note the drum magazine fitted to this fine specimen.
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Steyr AUG
The C-MAG is a twin-drum, high capacity ammunition magazine for rifles, light support weapons, firing port and other specialized weapons in 5.56mm caliber. Its main components are constructed of high impact plastic. Avoiding trouble-prone compression springs, the C-MAG utilizes a unique rotation device and low torsion stress springs which ensure positive control of each round and proper feeding. The design provides for equal distribution of the ammunition in each of the twin drums located on either side of the weapon. This results in a fixed center of gravity during firing, an important attribute during full automatic performance. The compact design allows for better ground clearance. -
SAR21 able to hold the drum???
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Interesting.Anyone here saw the SAR21 variant showcased at AA 2004?The one with the P-Rail, Front Grip, reflex Red-Dot sights and the GL attached.The weight distribution seems quite unbalanced.Unloaded, it feels clumsy to carry.Anyway, there are SAR21s on sale in USA, more for local police departments...That's what I heard so far.
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*drools*
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Originally posted by LazerLordz:Interesting.Anyone here saw the SAR21 variant showcased at AA 2004?The one with the P-Rail, Front Grip, reflex Red-Dot sights and the GL attached.The weight distribution seems quite unbalanced.Unloaded, it feels clumsy to carry.Anyway, there are SAR21s on sale in USA, more for local police departments...That's what I heard so far.
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Theres a SAR 21 SpecOps version given to the Sultan of Brunei. It was the only time ever seen of that model.
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cannot stand the saf man.
when it comes to open houses and big-shots visiting then suddenly all the teh neh neh equipment appears from nowhere, whereas the end users - the people on the sharp end - have never touched it before. i find it quite ridiculous, really, that the saf's so-called elite* use the same run of the mill sar21 as your standard infantry grunt.
i recently had an opportunity to get some hands-on with australian cdos - not even their SAS or CT unit; just regular cdos - and they have a huge array of equipment which caters for just about every possible scenario which could arise - flippers for sea insertions, lightweight (lighter than the saf's) body armour for fibua, their standard weapon, the m4 carbine, is issued with 3 types of sight (aimpoint, reflex and one more for underwater ops; i forgot the name) and p-rails for other accessories etc.
compare that with our own miserable nsf cdos - totally sia suay in comparison.
*referring to the cdos - the sof don't use the sar primarily in the first place nor is it suitable for most of their ops. -
Yes, the Australian guys did carry alot of stuff but also bought alot of stuff locally in S'pore.
Anyway, the reason they carry so much stuff is because they are on combat alert. Meaning that they are ready to deploy at the ring of the phone, very much like the U.S & British, Marines. BTW, when the U.S Marines were here in S'pore they had twice that amount of gears & a warship to back them up.
But its true, SAF only deploy new stuff when VIP are here but we can't blame them as this is part of DSTA, S'pore Aero Space, etc, control. To market their stuff & sell.
The plus side though is that most of our troops are willing to purchase their own personal gears for their duties & SAF/ MINDEF has yet to make a fuss about it. Just check out the Cdos' gear today during the NDP. Some of their stuff can be found at this local shop known as SHEARs TECHNOLOGY, at beach road opposite the old 1PDF camp.
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1st point: err. aren't we on combat alert too? same thing what. if the button is pressed, our phones ring and off we go. and surely the saf isn't keeping a hidden stockpile of gear for use only in war right? what we have now - which isn't much - is what we're going into combat with if the button is really pressed.Originally posted by John Ching:Yes, the Australian guys did carry alot of stuff but also bought alot of stuff locally in S'pore.
Anyway, the reason they carry so much stuff is because they are on combat alert. Meaning that they are ready to deploy at the ring of the phone, very much like the U.S & British, Marines. BTW, when the U.S Marines were here in S'pore they had twice that amount of gears & a warship to back them up.
But its true, SAF only deploy new stuff when VIP are here but we can't blame them as this is part of DSTA, S'pore Aero Space, etc, control. To market their stuff & sell.
The plus side though is that most of our troops are willing to purchase their own personal gears for their duties & SAF/ MINDEF has yet to make a fuss about it. Just check out the Cdos' gear today during the NDP. Some of their stuff can be found at this local shop known as SHEARs TECHNOLOGY, at beach road opposite the old 1PDF camp.
2: so what you're saying is that the saf brings out new stuff only as "advertisement" for foreigners? DSTA, ST AERO etc are mainly developing stuff for the SAF aren't they. so if we *do* have more advanced equipment, then why aren't individual units equipped with them? anyway, whatever the SAF's rationale is for only bringing advanced equipment out when visitors come, the fact remains that our ordinary soldiers do not have use of these things.
3. why should SAF/MINDEF make a fuss about troopers buying their own gear? saves them money...in any case, generally only regulars buy their own gear. no point shelling out $96 for a pair of blackhawk SBO straps ( just the shoulder straps! ) or similar prices for a single SBO back pouch if you're only going to be using it for a year or two. anyway is it common for regs from other units to buy additional personal gear? there aren't even all that many regs in cdo who buy them...are you sure "most of our troops" are willing to buy all that? i know i certainly am not, not on my measly nsf pay... -
i took some pics...of the SAR21s...
funny question when i ask the guys there... can SAR21 be fitted with silencer...answer was wht for.. not SOF use... knn... -
Aren't we on alert stats? Good question. But you already know the answer to that, SAF is always putting on show what, wayang.
Yes, DSTA & ST are developing stuff for SAF but that doesn't mean it sells only to SAF. Remember, they are making aloss selling only to SAF. And yes, there are equipment in storage that'll only be deploy when necessary. Just take the E.Timor incident, new M16S2 were issued with brand new ammos( Not the 1s you use at range ). Also, you can trace back how log it took SAF to issue SAR 21 to the units. In fact, I don't think it completed issuing the weapon.
As for purchasing gears, its up to individual really to decide if he should or should not purchase the gear. But here's an info that might amaze you, U.S military doesn't issue blackhawk gears to all its armed forces. And cdos aren't the only regular force in SAF. Hopefully you get to visit other units during your 2yrs of service.
I agreed with you too that being NSF, 1 should not bother about purchasing such expensive gear. Always follow the 1 off many SAF rule, don't bother until its amust.
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blackhawk stuff are overpriced, especially in Singapore.....i got lobang for BH stuff, i know a BH dealer. sure beat the price in the Shear shop, visited the hsop once, too pricy.....way too pricy.
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i think if you want high-speed-low-drag gear you should be spending the appropriate amount of cash to get it, and i must say that BHI is a good brand although there are many others out there(eagle industries, tactical tailor, s.o.e., paraclete, safariland, kifaru, maxpedition etc)Originally posted by quivalen:3. why should SAF/MINDEF make a fuss about troopers buying their own gear? saves them money...in any case, generally only regulars buy their own gear. no point shelling out $96 for a pair of blackhawk SBO straps ( just the shoulder straps! ) or similar prices for a single SBO back pouch if you're only going to be using it for a year or two. anyway is it common for regs from other units to buy additional personal gear? there aren't even all that many regs in cdo who buy them...are you sure "most of our troops" are willing to buy all that? i know i certainly am not, not on my measly nsf pay...
anyway the material that their gear is made from is excellent, especially the ones from nytaeon, which is virtually untearable by hand. i have bought a couple of stuff from sheares and they seem ok. bought my surefire there.. woohoo it rocks man..
CHUNYONG: intro me the lobang pleeease? i need my HSLD gear but sheares is the only officail supplier of bhi gear in asia. -
well i'm not so sure about this point but does the SAF fund their research? its not as if they're an independent company. if that was the case then yeah obviously profit would be their main motive and and as such they'd want to advertise to foreigners. but if their primary objective is to design for the saf then....Originally posted by John Ching:Aren't we on alert stats? Good question. But you already know the answer to that, SAF is always putting on show what, wayang.
Yes, DSTA & ST are developing stuff for SAF but that doesn't mean it sells only to SAF. Remember, they are making aloss selling only to SAF.
obviously. what i was trying to say was that presumably commandos are the most likely to purchase such gear 1. because they're most likely to have an actual need for it. and 2. well they are paid somewhat better although this is really quite secondary. this point is arguable - that's just what i'm presuming and i'd be interested to know if many regs in other units do in fact shell out dough on custom gear,As for purchasing gears, its up to individual really to decide if he should or should not purchase the gear. But here's an info that might amaze you, U.S military doesn't issue blackhawk gears to all its armed forces.[/quote]
uhm. i never said they do. i mentioned only australian commandos. their gear is issued. our commandos are not. that's my point.[quote] And cdos aren't the only regular force in SAF. Hopefully you get to visit other units during your 2yrs of service.
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go blackhawkindustries.com, tell u me wat u want and i let u know the price, note that it will take a month or so cos shipping from US over to here is abt 11-14 days and my friend not very active with email. sure-fire no use one lah, u are better off putting a maglight unless u are authorised to integrate the SF into ur weapon whereby the switch is a rectangular button on the armguard...like in mp-5.Originally posted by palmerised:i think if you want high-speed-low-drag gear you should be spending the appropriate amount of cash to get it, and i must say that BHI is a good brand although there are many others out there(eagle industries, tactical tailor, s.o.e., paraclete, safariland, kifaru, maxpedition etc)
anyway the material that their gear is made from is excellent, especially the ones from nytaeon, which is virtually untearable by hand. i have bought a couple of stuff from sheares and they seem ok. bought my surefire there.. woohoo it rocks man..
CHUNYONG: intro me the lobang pleeease? i need my HSLD gear but sheares is the only officail supplier of bhi gear in asia. -
bah it's ok man.. need it like now.. haa thanks anyway. if i need anth ill just give you a buzz. anyway i don't really like maglites. ever since secondary school i have been using them for trips and all that and personally i find that their bulbs die out fast, esp from extensive usage. also the maglite isn't that bright. also, maglite isn't really water proof. if you open the head cap, you'll notice that the plastic lens that is covering the bulb comes out easily, and isn't secured by an o-ring or some other method. surefire is way better if you asked me.. and about the switch, you're referring to the pressure-switch right?Originally posted by chunyong:go blackhawkindustries.com, tell u me wat u want and i let u know the price, note that it will take a month or so cos shipping from US over to here is abt 11-14 days and my friend not very active with email. sure-fire no use one lah, u are better off putting a maglight unless u are authorised to integrate the SF into ur weapon whereby the switch is a rectangular button on the armguard...like in mp-5. -
surefire too ex to buy here lah.....dun really need it also. if required, u will be provided with it liao mah..Originally posted by palmerised:bah it's ok man.. need it like now.. haa thanks anyway. if i need anth ill just give you a buzz. anyway i don't really like maglites. ever since secondary school i have been using them for trips and all that and personally i find that their bulbs die out fast, esp from extensive usage. also the maglite isn't that bright. also, maglite isn't really water proof. if you open the head cap, you'll notice that the plastic lens that is covering the bulb comes out easily, and isn't secured by an o-ring or some other method. surefire is way better if you asked me.. and about the switch, you're referring to the pressure-switch right? -
Provided? Sure? Don't think they provide it to normal units right? Anyway i always believe in a good investment.. It's a relatively affordable sum to save your butt when you really need it.. I've tried it, especially when clearing bright rooms, people get blinded.. Don't think you get the same effect when using others yeah? Don't really know about streamlight though...
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Just saw the copy of the Molle vest on Streats IIRC.
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hiz!
got any better brands of torchlight to use besides Maglite?
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SUREFIREs or STREAMLIGHTs. but i hgihly reccomend surefire.. have the m2 centurion now and i tell you it rocks.Originally posted by mika14:hiz!
got any better brands of torchlight to use besides Maglite?
i agree that Maglites couldn't last long.
am now in the uk where posession of a firearm, baton or even o.c. is prohibited, so i always carry my surefire with me whenever i go out at night. small package, delivers quite a punch. my SF's brightness is 60 and 120 lumens.. but be prepared to pay alot. the price can range from SG$150 and above..
but seriously lah, if you want a really good piece of flashlight for gp or combat use, i can't think of a better name other than surefire. well good luck. -
......along with Trijicon ACOG, Reflex optics and a nightvision sight. This kit was designed to be configurable (modular) for various missions and the kit is in service right now with Special Operations units (though many operators have dumped the Trijicon Reflex sight for Aimpoint red dot sights and EOTech holographic sights).
LazerLordz, don't forget the compact ACOG. Standard issue is a set of the ACOG, compact ACOG and the Reflex. Absolutely true that a lot of operators prefer the Aimpoint and the EOTech is fast catching up.....and their Selective Integrated Rail (SIR) system, along with Lewis Machine & Tool
If I can find that SWAT Magazine article by Pat Rogers about the new LMT upper, I'll try and post a link.
And now I got a couple of Qs for you guys
1) What's all this interest in tactical gear among you folks in Singapore? BHI and such? Maybe I've been away for too long but what do you guys actually use these gear for other than being part of one of the Teams?
2) Is Shears Tech the main outlet for all these tac gear in Singapore? Do they have a website by any chance? I was searching for them when I stumbled upon this forum.
Thanks guys and my apologies for the abrupt intro. Yes, I am a Singaporean and possibly the only one I know that is in the business of designing and producing tactical gear. That said, I'm based out of Virginia where one can openly carry a pistol without a permit
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Man, what's all the fuss here? Blackhawk? Surefire?
Back in the old company line, the saying was "Can means can" - you're there to kill the bugger, not impress the hell out of him with your Gucci go-faster kit.
I'll admit that laser sights were a great extra, simply because it meant that my ammo could go a longer way, and I used my own Mark II because the bloody issued bayonet couldn't cut butter, but apart from that, the standard kit of 1990 allowed me to do as good a job as anyone. Why do I need SOPMOD if the old Colt Commando could leave the other guy just as dead? If it goes bang when you squeeze the trigger and the round doesn't miss by a country mile, you're good to go.
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I absolutely love this phrase. its hilarious. "teh neh neh equipment"Originally posted by quivalen:cannot stand the saf man.
when it comes to open houses and big-shots visiting then suddenly all the teh neh neh equipment appears from nowhere, whereas the end users - the people on the sharp end - have never touched it before.