SAF's new Light-AntiTank-Weapon : Matador
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isit going to replace the LAW as the section estab wpn, or the 84?
and damn it sure looks bulky and heavy! pity the matador gunners... -
think it's gonna replace both?
Originally posted by wuming78:isit going to replace the LAW as the section estab wpn, or the 84?
and damn it sure looks bulky and heavy! pity the matador gunners... -
Saw it at the army open house,
90mm, range 500metres. i think it will replace both system too. -
the weight of the weapon is 8.9 kg while the weight of the projectile is 2.6 kg. does that mean it has a total weight of 11.5 kg?! the poor gunner..
anyway does this also herald a change in the composition of an infantry section, or even the company support section? interesting... -
Developed jointly by the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) and the Defence Science & Technology Agency (DSTA), in collaboration with Dynamit Nobel Defence (DND), the MATADOR (Man-portable Anti-Tank, Anti-DOoR) is a 90mm calibre man-portable disposable anti-armour weapon system which meets the needs of the modern battlefield, especially in an increasingly urbanised environment. The development of this weapon began in 2000 and the MATADOR will eventually replace the ARMBRUST Light Anti-tank Weapon which has been in service since the 1980s.
The MATADOR, which is among the lightest in its class, has both anti-armour and anti-brickwall capabilities that is suitable for operations in confined spaces. With its enhanced penetration capabilities, it is capable of defeating most known Armoured Personnel Carrier and Light Tanks in the world. The dual-capability warhead, when acting in the delay mode, creates an opening larger than 450mm diameter in a double brickwall and offers a non-conventional entry point for the soldier when fighting in built-up areas. The increased range of the MATADOR over the current ARMBRUST allows the soldier to engage targets beyond small arms effective range and therefore increasing the survivability of our soldiers.
The MATADOR's innovative propulsion system results in a highly accurate weapon system whose projectile is insensitive to wind. Combined with ergonomic features and a high precision optical sight, the MATADOR can be fired from a small confined space to enhance our operational capabilities in both conventional and urban operations.
In the development of the weapon, our soldiersÂ’ feedback during ergonomics trials and many other useful features found in the ARMBRUST were incorporated in the design of the MATADOR.
The longer front grip handle prevents the soldier from misplacing his finger in front of the muzzle during firing, thereby eliminating the risk of injury. It also allows the soldier to rest the weapon on the ground, thus improving accuracy when maintaining a firing position. The foldable pistol grips allow the soldiers to lock the weapon, preventing accidental firing.
Field trials were conducted to tailor the position of the optical sight to the SAF soldiers. The chosen sight magnification provides the soldiers with good field of view to allow for more precise strike on target. The MATADOR is equipped with Picatinny rail for mounting night vision device for night operations. Improvements have also been made to the sighting system to enhance target acquisition.
The countermass counteracts the recoil of the weapon upon firing. In addition, the positioning of the countermass takes into consideration the centre of gravity of the weapon to ensure good balance for greater accuracy. A wider soft rubber sling replaced the conventional hard, slim canvas sling to reduce the stress on the soldierÂ’s shoulder due to prolonged slinging. The new sling also comes with a quick-release buckle to allow rapid switch from sling to firing position.
Furthermore, the carriage of the weapon has been made more comfortable with better padding, a feature useful for long route marches. As a whole, these easy-to-use features will help our soldiers achieve proficiency in using the weapon within the shortest possible time.
The MATADOR is a crucial step forward in the ArmyÂ’s journey to transform itself into a 3rd generation fighting force and will greatly enhance the firepower of the Infantry Formation. The Army will gain the added capability to fight in built-up areas. With the improvements to make the weapon user-friendly, our soldiers will find the weapon easy to operate and will spend less training time to achieve proficiency.
Technical Specifications
Calibre 90 mm
Weight of weapon 8.9 kg
Weight of projectile 2.6 kg
Length of weapon 1m
Muzzle velocity: 250 m/s
Flight time to 300m: 1.2 s
Temperature range: -40°C to +63°C
Effective range: 500 m
Firing from confined space >15m3
Warhead Capability: HEAT or HESH mode
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if not change to the section then all the law gunner siao already lor...but 84mm gunner happy lor.... but... it's cannot be reloaded right?? so can replace 84 too meh?
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well according to the article above it replaces LAW and not 84.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):if not change to the section then all the law gunner siao already lor...but 84mm gunner happy lor.... but... it's cannot be reloaded right?? so can replace 84 too meh? -
MATADOR is the first weapon in the world which has both anti-armour and anti-brickwall capabilities that is suited for operations in confined spaces. With enhanced penetration, this weapon is able to defeat all known Armoured Fighting Vehicles and Light Tanks in the world. The warhead when acting in the delay mode creates a hole of 450mm diameter in a double brickwall and offers a non-conventional entry point for the soldier when fighting in built-up area. The increased range of the weapon over our ARMBRUST allows the soldier to engage targets beyond small arms effective range and therefore increasing the survivability of our soldiers.
In the development, special attention has also been given to ensure that the European designers understood the anthropomorphic profile of our soldiers. There were numerous human factors trials involving our National Servicemen (NSmen) with the aim to improve the ergonomics of the weapon. In addition, many of the useful features found in the ARMBRUST were incorporated in MATADOR. Improvements have also been made to the sighting system to enhance target acquisition. Furthermore, the carriage of the weapon has been made more comfortable with better padding, a feature useful for long matches. Taken together, these easy to use features will help our soldiers achieve proficiency in using the weapon within the shortest possible time.
The introduction of MATADOR in the Army will greatly enhance the firepower of the Infantry Section. It will give the Army the added capability to fight in built-up areas. With the improvements to make the weapon user friendly, our soldiers will find the weapon easy to operate and will spend less training time to achieve proficiency.
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ok.... but then law gunner siao already lor... look very THICK too...Originally posted by wuming78:well according to the article above it replaces LAW and not 84.
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in the past, during training, LAW gunners carry dummy LAWs - the blue coloured tubes. and these tubes always knock on the soldier's head hard when he needs to prone down quickly upon contact, since one usually slings the tube around the shoulder.Originally posted by I-like-flings(m):ok.... but then law gunner siao already lor... look very THICK too...
now its this 8.9 kg giant... imagine suffering a knock from that!
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ya lor.. that is wat mi think too....it look as thick as 84 somemore... although not as heavy... but... 2 in each section???? good luck lor...Originally posted by wuming78:in the past, during training, LAW gunners carry dummy LAWs - the blue coloured tubes. and these tubes always knock on the soldier's head hard when he needs to prone down quickly upon contact, since one usually slings the tube around the shoulder.
now its this 8.9 kg giant... imagine suffering a knock from that! -
Best liao la! LAW gunners are going to have it tough nowz...lol....
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Maybe not as bad.
The MILES Ambrust also very long and heavy .. and the LAW gunners are used to that. -
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that pointy thing in the front...
is it the selector switch for the dual mode warhead? -
Two men team ? Take turns to carry. One spotter one firer.Originally posted by wuming78:isit going to replace the LAW as the section estab wpn, or the 84?
and damn it sure looks bulky and heavy! pity the matador gunners... -
wah knn siao!! it looks damn heavy man. Law gunner jialat.
but dun think it will replace 84mm. Besides vehicle and bunker busting, 84mm always been more a close firebase support weapon close as in 700m away in airburst mode, esp useful if main arty guns are too far away to provide any support.
Though weights like a rock is easy to maintain and operate even with iron sights, in use by both asian and western armies alike and rebels(like in mogadishu) the world over.
As long as they keep producing more and more advance armaments on the 84 I think we will continue to see it for a long time more. -
Forgive my ignorance but isn't the Carl Gustav 84mm recoiless rifle quite old and obsolete by now?
I thought the warhead cannot penetrate front glacis plate of most modern MBT either. I thought the SPIKE, MILAN, and whatever Anti-Tank Guided Missile systems are supposed to have replaced the 84mm even at Battalion level?
Especially now that the disposable LAW at section level is already a modern 90mm warhead, what use is the support company if they have a 84mm old-fashioned recoiless rifle?
Furthermore, the 84mm cannot be fired in a confined space cause it has a HUGE backblast. This gives your position away so even if you kill one tank, the other tanks and the other supporting vehicles or infantry will be firing at you. Even trying to run away carrying the 84mm - the thing weigh a TON.
The last time I encountered an 84mm was when I last did reservist in 2PDF more than 8 years ago. If they are still being used by SAF I'm sure those 84mm weapons are older than a lot of the enlistees.
Of course a lot of weapons are also very old like MG, rifle, mortaretc. Some MG I encountered looks about 30 years old. But human still made of flesh, so 30-year old technology can still kill. But tank armour improve every decade, so infantry AT capability must keep evolving to keep up. -
is tis the real weapon or the dummy 1??Originally posted by foga: -
Yes, the gun is quite old, but then even the US Rangers are using it (a lighter version) .. what you think?Originally posted by tvdog:Forgive my ignorance but isn't the Carl Gustav 84mm recoiless rifle quite old and obsolete by now?
I thought the warhead cannot penetrate front glacis plate of most modern MBT either. I thought the SPIKE, MILAN, and whatever Anti-Tank Guided Missile systems are supposed to have replaced the 84mm even at Battalion level?
Especially now that the disposable LAW at section level is already a modern 90mm warhead, what use is the support company if they have a 84mm old-fashioned recoiless rifle
Hmm, was the 84 ever a battalion level weapon? I thought that was the 106 gun? -
it may be old fashion but it reloadable unlike the LAW or matador, true it cannot penetrate MBT armor but light armor vehicles it still can handle.Originally posted by tvdog:Forgive my ignorance but isn't the Carl Gustav 84mm recoiless rifle quite old and obsolete by now?
I thought the warhead cannot penetrate front glacis plate of most modern MBT either. I thought the SPIKE, MILAN, and whatever Anti-Tank Guided Missile systems are supposed to have replaced the 84mm even at Battalion level?
Especially now that the disposable LAW at section level is already a modern 90mm warhead, what use is the support company if they have a 84mm old-fashioned recoiless rifle?
Furthermore, the 84mm cannot be fired in a confined space cause it has a HUGE backblast. This gives your position away so even if you kill one tank, the other tanks and the other supporting vehicles or infantry will be firing at you. Even trying to run away carrying the 84mm - the thing weigh a TON.
The last time I encountered an 84mm was when I last did reservist in 2PDF more than 8 years ago. If they are still being used by SAF I'm sure those 84mm weapons are older than a lot of the enlistees.
Of course a lot of weapons are also very old like MG, rifle, mortaretc. Some MG I encountered looks about 30 years old. But human still made of flesh, so 30-year old technology can still kill. But tank armour improve every decade, so infantry AT capability must keep evolving to keep up.
It is also useful as a short range arty in situations when your arty cannot reach or the fighting is too close and intense for calling in arty without hitting your own troops then 84 comes in.
But as long as they have 2 per coy we will definately need to be carrying it. -
84 is a coy support wpn la...Originally posted by Icemoon:Yes, the gun is quite old, but then even the US Rangers are using it (a lighter version) .. what you think?
Hmm, was the 84 ever a battalion level weapon? I thought that was the 106 gun?
106mm is Bn... -.-'
And SPIKE and like were to replace 106mm...(i think? so far, seems so) -
is tat a precursor thingy?
like in TOW.
designed to set off any reactive armour fitted on a tank and with the armour disengaged, hit the tank with the main HEAT warhead.Originally posted by CX:that pointy thing in the front...
is it the selector switch for the dual mode warhead? -
Yea .. I know that.Originally posted by deathscythe99:84 is a coy support wpn la...