AMX 10
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went to AOH '04. saw this AMX10 there. wonder why they put it on show after so many years in storage?
say if you can, don't if you can't.
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I dun recall it being put in storage. It was involved in an amphibious excercise *i cant recall the name on 1st August 2003, last year.Originally posted by fett:went to AOH '04. saw this AMX10 there. wonder why they put it on show after so many years in storage?
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hmmm. wasn't from armour so won't know. but it was never this public, right?Originally posted by foxtrout8:I dun recall it being put in storage. It was involved in an amphibious excercise *i cant recall the name on 1st August 2003, last year. -
It is rather sensitive lah due to it's amphibious nature, even the tankee dun want to answer some of my questions but if memory serve me right, i dun remember it being stored up. Anyway, i still a student so.... however im rather sure that the AMX-10P is active all the while.Originally posted by fett:hmmm. wasn't from armour so won't know. but it was never this public, right? -
As understands from my wife's cousin, he is a turret mechanic
Amx10 is under the one of the Guards orbat.........he belong to this Amx10 unit...
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I'm an infantry reservist with a keen interest in armour and I didn't even know about the AMX-10 until recently.
Yes, its amphibious nature makes it a sensitive issue for our neighbours. Not very defensive in nature, is it?
It might spark another arms race whereby poor Malaysia may also be forced to look into buying some amphibious tanks etc.
But apparently the AMX-10 is rather crap. Indonesia operates the same version as us. -
the guards have LSVs. i reckon it can work in both strike/reconnaissance roles.Originally posted by Slywong:As understands from my wife's cousin, he is a turret mechanic
Amx10 is under the one of the Guards orbat.........he belong to this Amx10 unit...
Thats all I can revealed.
the AMX 10, as i see it is a heavily armed recce armour vehicle, with x troopers in it. wonder where AMX 10 fit in it?
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One thing, Terrex was initially touted as a Amphibious veh ( with 10km/h swimming capability) as shown in computer graphic image & video a few years back.
But nowadays not much info on it's amphi capability on th brochure except it still has a twin hydrojet and more on C-130 air deployability.
So far , is seem that theTerrex has not being adopted by SAF(the one in SAF open house still do not have a MID plate number and was showcase by ST). -
Wonder why they didnt display the 25mm version. It seemed to be of a different shade of green when I last saw it. Now its in Temesek green.
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I was from armour and I got to see those tanks up front and personal. Saw pictures of them during operation as well. But yes, everything is still pretty much hush hush. I do hear about how thier tankees trained before, but shhhhhh.
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I thought the AMX-10 had been shown to the public before in Mindef photos and previous AOHs. I think they are no longer a secret,just that Mindef don't want to emphasize too much on our more offensive A vehicles in the media for political sensitivity issues.
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The AMX-10P is to support the 21st Division which consist mainly of 3 brigades of Guardsmen. As you know the guardmen are train in both heli-deployment and amphibous operation, the AMX-10P is to support the latter operation. Try asking them their operation tactics, they will kindly shoo you off.Originally posted by fett:the guards have LSVs. i reckon it can work in both strike/reconnaissance roles.
the AMX 10, as i see it is a heavily armed recce armour vehicle, with x troopers in it. wonder where AMX 10 fit in it?
just musing, don't really need an answer.
The AMX-10P is an extremely offensive tank an thus MINDEF is keeping it is hush hush affair, but dun worry, it will not provoke an arm race as Malaysia have amphibious tanks before us. -
According to the World Defence Almanac, the SAF currently has 22 AMX10Pac90, 24 AMX10RC, 22 AMX10P and some Swedish CV90. From the small numbers of vehicles being purchased, I surmised that the purchased vehicles were used for evaluation and reversed-engineering for the development of our local armoured vehicles. The AMX10Ps and the CV90s were used for the development of the Bionix. The AMX10RC being used for the Terrex and the AMX10Pac90 and CV90s used for the development of our future replacement for the SM1s. For your info, all these vehicles purchased are not in storage but instead are still being maintained and used.These vehicles were not bought cheap to being with, so the SAF is not likely to let these vehicles rot in storage.
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The tankees were quite reticent to talk about the AMX-10, until me and my friend told them we were Armament Specs..then they warmed up a bit, but still looked at us warily.Heh.
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Indonesia Bought the AMX 10 series first followed by our SAF.Main reason for doing so:to study the capabilities of the AMX 10.Hence after evaluting the AMX,we operate a small numbers.But this AMX 10 will retired soon.Too much problems...Originally posted by tvdog:I'm an infantry reservist with a keen interest in armour and I didn't even know about the AMX-10 until recently.
Yes, its amphibious nature makes it a sensitive issue for our neighbours. Not very defensive in nature, is it?
It might spark another arms race whereby poor Malaysia may also be forced to look into buying some amphibious tanks etc.
But apparently the AMX-10 is rather crap. Indonesia operates the same version as us. -
wow..going to be retired soon? Can I buy some demilitarised ones, so that I can use them to carry tourists around for tours and compete with the Duck Tours outfit
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and some Swedish CV90
Got to be kidding!!! Guess we are going in the right directions, Light but heavy puch.
AMX10p's 90mm mayby small by standards but can do alo of damage. -
At least its 90mm canon is more powerful than the AMX13's 75mm. I was surfing that night & came across this site listing tons of hardware used by the world's military.
The AMX-13 was listed too & apparently the 75mm variant is like freakin old & not even in use any more. Some countries still use AMX-13 but they've all been upgraded to 90mm or even 120mm canons.
I know our's is upgraded to AMX13-S1 but AFAIK the upgrade was to engine & not firepower. And that same website also said the AMX-13 is practically extinct & in service only in some third world countries.
WAHAHAHAHA!!! I guess that includes us!!! LOL!! -
Yes, I've read about the 90mm and some AMX-13 had 105mm cannons, but 120mm?.
But then CIS apparently produces some kind of modern ammo for our small 75mm gun, so... -
...........................Originally posted by tvdog:Yes, I've read about the 90mm and some AMX-13 had 105mm cannons, but 120mm?.
But then CIS apparently produces some kind of modern ammo for our small 75mm gun, so...
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Highly classified siaz, so highly classified they even put it on a display case for all to see, with description.Originally posted by Manager433:Our AMX 13 SM-1 also use a highly classified 75mm armor piecing round,the same used by M1 A-1 but this is a 75mm shell. -
For ur information, they do not put all their tricks on display. I wont be surprise if there are other rounds available in Sungei Gedong.Originally posted by ditzy:Highly classified siaz, so highly classified they even put it on a display case for all to see, with description. -
Yeah, like the blank you can find on a golf course.Originally posted by foxtrout8:For ur information, they do not put all their tricks on display. I wont be surprise if there are other rounds available in Sungei Gedong. -
OK I GOT A QUESTION!
is Bionix Amphibious? -
NoOriginally posted by SibeiSuayKia:OK I GOT A QUESTION!
is Bionix Amphibious?