flagship/symbol of singapore navy
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which is the flagship of singapore navy or symbol of it. The USA had nimtz class carriers while other countries also have famous ships throughout their navy history like japan yamato, german bismarck, british prince of wales and so on, so...which is the ship reprsenting singapore navy?
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we got TEO CHEE HEAN
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None of our ships are called TEO CHEE HEAN.
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the bismark wasnt the flag ship of the german navy.....heck i dont think they had 1.....a flag ship is the lead ship of a fleet.....the germans in ww2 dint have fleets i believe.Originally posted by ray243:which is the flagship of singapore navy or symbol of it. The USA had nimtz class carriers while other countries also have famous ships throughout their navy history like japan yamato, german bismarck, british prince of wales and so on, so...which is the ship reprsenting singapore navy? -
haha but this thread says flagship/SYMBOL wadOriginally posted by esesce:None of our ships are called TEO CHEE HEAN. 
yeah the germans din have fleets back then..and the bismarck was famous for sinking the Hood and getting blown up after that. the yamato did not get to fire a single shot, and neither did the Prince of Wales i think... -
FlagShip IS... RSN Courageous..
considering even in malaysia..
RSN Courageous received front page news coverage..
cuz i was there -
If not for our northern neighbour, we wouldn't have needed to patrol Pedra Branca in the first place.
You can blame Chua and Ng and ANL Indonesia but ultimately Malaysia is responsible for the deaths of the 4 servicewomen.
And then that prick Najib had the cheek to say that joint patrols would have prevented the accident -
There is no symbol for the Singapor navy. When you have a symbol, you build yourself up for the hard fall when your symbol is taken down. Its the same way the USN doesn't regard the USS Nimitz as its Flagship.
The 7th Fleet lists the USS Blue Ridge as the flagship.
Admittedly, a CVN would be the US version of a flagship, as it is a hi-value target and possesses the most combat power and manpower among USN surface combatants.
RSN's equivalent right now would be a MCV or LST class vessel. In future conflicts, a stealth frigate would be our capital ship, where the loss of such a vessel would be disproportionate to its value in terms of lives, combat power or cost. A capital ship.
My tuppence worth. -
isn't a flagship one where the naval admiral commands the fleet from? that's why the 7th fleet's flag ship is the blue ridge. its a pure command vessal. and thus the phrase "transferring the flag" when the admiral's ship is going down. in WW2, when the admiral's carrier was sinking, he could transfer the flag over to a cruiser, and it effectively becomes the flag ship...
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ok...then which is currently the flagship of our first flotilla commander
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Its RSS Courageous btw not RSN Courageous. If I had to choose one ship to be the rep, I'd say that LST which was sent to Iraq. Fortunately none of our ships have been involved in combat so far, and because of that, the LST in Iraq is probably the only vessel considered to be as close to combat situations as possible.
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a nice little building in a naval baseOriginally posted by ray243:ok...then which is currently the flagship of our first flotilla commander
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The flag ship is the command and control ship, for singapore it will alway be one of the LST. Because as flag ship to control the fleet, you need a room with console for a few operators monitoring the battle and commanders to discuss and give instructions. Only at this moment the LST have the space. But next time with the new frigate, that may change.Originally posted by ray243:which is the flagship of singapore navy or symbol of it. The USA had nimtz class carriers while other countries also have famous ships throughout their navy history like japan yamato, german bismarck, british prince of wales and so on, so...which is the ship reprsenting singapore navy?
Recently there was a article in ST on it, about the exericse with US in command and control aspect which is rare due different in equipment of countries, in one exerise. The command and control was from one of our LST. -
Although the have used the LST as a command ship, they won't label is as a flagship. It is embarrassing.
It got no good self defence system. One missile and it's gone. They rather label the frigate.
And no offence, but they should NEVER put a women on the helm.
Did'nt anybody noticed? They are quite bad at directions. -
Don't under estimate the defense of our LST, the defense of it is not anything less than that of the missile covertte. It have guns, anti-air / anti-missile missile system, anti-missile guns.Originally posted by AkiraDen:
Although the have used the LST as a command ship, they won't label is as a flagship. It is embarrassing.
It got no good self defence system. One missile and it's gone. They rather label the frigate.
And no offence, but they should NEVER put a women on the helm.
Did'nt anybody noticed? They are quite bad at directions.
It is well defense as you have vehicles, troops and heli, more things to lose. The only thing it lack of is the attack weapons.
The important is it it have the room, it is suitable that make it a good flagship. You are out to win a war, not a beauty contest.
What wrong with a woman on the helm ? there are good one and the bad one ! If you refering to that patrol boat incident, the blame is on the superivor officer ( happen to be a man ) for not taking over command when he should, when the trainee make mistake if not why she is trainee.
I have meet with some of the best women in the SAF, some of them even happen to be my instructors in GPMG, Law ...etc. There are some real good ones out there, just too bad that you have not meet them yet. -
It has the same defensive weapons as a corvette. but it also have a much higher profile (bigger target) then a corvette or frigate.
In the age of the sail, when communication is via signal flags, a "flag" ship is significant, it will host the Admiral's flag and the other ships can either watch it for instructions or follow it into battle.
With modern Communications, flag ship not too as important as in the past. probably the highest command authority will be shore-based. The senior most commander or the task group leader will at sea in command. But no need for speical "flag ship".
One of the things that Nimitz did after Pearl Harbour is to transfer his "flag" ashore. His "flag ship" the BB Pennsinaia (spelling) was damaged. And hosting his flag on another ship like a curiser will mean that one less ship available for operational duties.
For the IJN, the flagship was the BB Nagato and then the BB Yamato when it was completed. So it is used to ferry the IJN Admiral around (what is his name???) for meetings and so on. What a "f u c king" waste of resource. -
mmm..anyone wonder why they did not install CIWS on the LSTs?Originally posted by AkiraDen:
Although the have used the LST as a command ship, they won't label is as a flagship. It is embarrassing.
It got no good self defence system. One missile and it's gone. They rather label the frigate.
And no offence, but they should NEVER put a women on the helm.
Did'nt anybody noticed? They are quite bad at directions.
or is the typhoon gun considered one? -
Think we should purchase 1 super huge destroyer with missiles
and call it RSS LKY.
the RSS LKY will have the following additional functions:
1. A built-in Jail inside the ship
2. A built in Sing-Tel Satellite communications
3. Another built in court to trial criminals
4. Electric shock chair and ability to hang criminals
5. A super "fine" structure
6. Merdeka room (whereby sailors will go in and shout merdeka)
7. Super Anti-Aircraft Missiles Patriot X missiles Variant 2050
designed to shut down all enemies
8. Eavesdropping equipment (ECM)
The design will follow the Arleigh-Burke Class only difference is
it is equipped with force field and ability to submerge underwater
and launch underwater ICBMs and
launch F-35 VTOL -
slight nitpick...but the HMS Prince of Wales did fire many shots and had in fact exchanged fire with the Brismarck during the same engagement in which the British flagship HMS Hood was sunkOriginally posted by sgFish:haha but this thread says flagship/SYMBOL wad
yeah the germans din have fleets back then..and the bismarck was famous for sinking the Hood and getting blown up after that. the yamato did not get to fire a single shot, and neither did the Prince of Wales i think... -
oh yeah..it managed to fire off one salvo before pulling out..i forgotOriginally posted by SlowPoke:slight nitpick...but the HMS Prince of Wales did fire many shots and had in fact exchanged fire with the Brismarck during the same engagement in which the British flagship HMS Hood was sunk
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Think we should purchase 1 super huge destroyer with missiles
and call it RSS LKY.
Better not, Telepone, MRT, School Fees, ERP, Tax etc will go up.
err.. just joking. -
What wrong with a woman on the helm ? there are good one and the bad one ! If you refering to that patrol boat incident, the blame is on the superivor officer ( happen to be a man ) for not taking over command when he should, when the trainee make mistake if not why she is trainee.
You are right, looking at the way the ship zig-zag, they must be shouting
trainee"Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
superivor officer" left"
trainee ""Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
At this point, it is is fault as a superivor officer not to act. He should have pulled out his pistol and shot her.
And your experience have proved me right. They are good at training people, telling people what to do.
Wonder why SAF put most of them there?
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it's port and starboard out at sea my friend....Originally posted by AkiraDen:You are right, looking at the way the ship zig-zag, they must be shouting
trainee"Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
superivor officer" left"
trainee ""Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
At this point, it is is fault as a superivor officer not to act. He should have pulled out his pistol and shot her.
And your experience have proved me right. They are good at training people, telling people what to do.
Wonder why SAF put most of them there? -
woohoo. this is one cool idea manOriginally posted by SibeiSuayKia:6. Merdeka room (whereby sailors will go in and shout merdeka) -
Yes if that type of conversion was ever allow to happen, that officer may as well pull pistol and shoot himself 1st.Originally posted by AkiraDen:You are right, looking at the way the ship zig-zag, they must be shouting
trainee"Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
superivor officer" left"
trainee ""Left,right?",
superivor officer "Right"
trainee " Right or left?"
At this point, it is is fault as a superivor officer not to act. He should have pulled out his pistol and shot her.
And your experience have proved me right. They are good at training people, telling people what to do.
Wonder why SAF put most of them there?
If in situation that does not allow for doubt and the trainee is lost . He does not have to shoot the trainee, he just have to say "Deck, I now relieve trainee from command, I now have command, turn starboard 30 degree and all ahead full !".
You are just plain discriminating again woman ! Isn't commanding a section, as platoon, company what to do ? think the problem is with you yourself