Very rare badget in SAF - pathfinder
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i once saw the crest on a guy, i walked past him and saw it. its similar to the picture. i'm no SAF guy so i may be wrong.
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My senior he disrupted for overseas study. and when he got his degree... he return to serve his remaining 7 mths.. thats how i got a chance to know my senior..Originally posted by beavan:wah how does one guy prepare the entire drop zone?isn't it abit impossible?
Pathfinder dun work alone...
Heard from him that they not only prepare the drop zone... they are supposed to secure it till the forces are being dropped.... -
Correction. The veri 1st course was in 1996 where all the 1st ATEC/OPFOR Officer and NCOs went for it in CTW. That was the 1st time CTW open up the course for non Commando. Before that it was oni taught internally.Originally posted by Obersturmfuhrer:They started the course fairly recently, about 1 to 2 years ago. -
We call it a team. 1st let get clear what a PF Coy do? It does not oni do DZ, it oso do AS, LZ, PZ as well as BH. For BH most of the time the NDU will be around to work hand in hand.Originally posted by beavan:wah how does one guy prepare the entire drop zone?isn't it abit impossible?
A PF will not stay around for too long ie to say once the 1st group of main body landed, the PF commander will hand over the whatever Z and move off to prepare PZ or PS. PF will always be the 1st in to open 'windows' for the main body and the last one out needless to say 'close the windows'
Next the Size of a DZ, AS, LZ, PZ and BH.
DZ for loads or pax has a diff set up. A well train PF team of 4 to 5 man can operate a DZ.
AS will need 1 X PF Coy to set up and operate.
1 X LZ is make up of 3 or 4 LS. Number of birds depend.
1 X Team for LS.
1 X PL for LZ. ie to say 1 X PF Coy can operate up to 4+1 LZ.
As for BH, it will depend how big or long the BH is. Example like D-day, per sector need at least a PL size.
Pathfinder. First In Last Out. -
wats AS and PZ?Originally posted by Joshua1975:We call it a team. 1st let get clear what a PF Coy do? It does not oni do DZ, it oso do AS, LZ, PZ as well as BH. For BH most of the time the NDU will be around to work hand in hand.
A PF will not stay around for too long ie to say once the 1st group of main body landed, the PF commander will hand over the whatever Z and move off to prepare PZ or PS. PF will always be the 1st in to open 'windows' for the main body and the last one out needless to say 'close the windows'
Next the Size of a DZ, AS, LZ, PZ and BH.
DZ for loads or pax has a diff set up. A well train PF team of 4 to 5 man can operate a DZ.
AS will need 1 X PF Coy to set up and operate.
1 X LZ is make up of 3 or 4 LS. Number of birds depend.
1 X Team for LS.
1 X PL for LZ. ie to say 1 X PF Coy can operate up to 4+1 LZ.
As for BH, it will depend how big or long the BH is. Example like D-day, per sector need at least a PL size.
Pathfinder. First In Last Out. -
AS ~ Air Strip.Originally posted by superworm99:wats AS and PZ?
PZ ~ Pick-up Zone -
The New US Army Attack Pathfinders: where to airland/airdrop Air-Mech-Strike Forces and terminally guide Army attack aircraftOriginally posted by Dutch:During my NSF days in Commando, I found the pathfinder badge is the rarest among the elite... I knew only 2 WOs wore this. Even rarer than the US ranger yellow tab.
I am curious about this badge... any commends?
Not sure is it operational yet. The diff is the lighting strike on/across the wing. -
SWO Gunga was my OC in SISPEC...
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is he the 1 that wear air force no3 with red beret???
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SWO Gunga is the Army RSM, why would he be wearing Air Force attire?Originally posted by Noeyessee:is he the 1 that wear air force no3 with red beret???
Or were you thinking of someone else? 
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my mistake.... wrong person
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he is now the newly appointed saf rsm...
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SWO Gunga is the nicest person I worked with during my NS time.
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SWO Gunga.... ah yes... and excellent WO.
The US Pathfinder badge is received upon completion fo the Pathfinder course.
Teh Air Assault badge is awarded upon completion of teh Air Assault COurse. It is more comprehensive than Guards. They learn all manners of Underslung operations adn deployment. And thus teh prestige.
Of course Singaporeans will not want to say that something is better and thus say it is basically a Guards course.
The 2 courses and their syallabus can be found at the Kabulsanki(not sure of teh spelling) Air Assault school.
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Yah, but if i'm not mistaken, they get a badge for comlpeting basic training...Originally posted by John Ching:Hmm! Have you ever seen a senior U.S Marine in No.1? They usually have so much badges on them that you can't tell if they are a soldier or a walking badge collector.
If worst when they are dressed in their No.2, they looke like damn boy scouts. -
u need to be airborne qualified to get the Pathfinder badge....thus the wings...almost every elite course requires one to be airborne qualified(ranger,etc)...
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IT is the US pathfinder course.
Basically its a 5 week course focusing on navigation and preparation of drop zone.
But I do not think this is a rare badge compared to the US Special OPs badge. Many of us would call it the Navy Seals Badge, but the badge's official name is US Special Operation Badge.
ITs the one with an eagle grabbing onto a trident. -
the US Special Forces and Navy SEAL trident(its actually called the Special Warfare Badge) are 2 different things....those who pass the 3 stages of BUD/s gets the Seal Trident...to get the US Special Forces badge...u gotta go through the Q course in John F Kennedy Spec Warfare centre... -
Talking about rare badges - my former CO during my NS had a German ranger crest and German airborne wings. How rare is that in the SAF?
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Originally posted by TVaddict:saf rsm swo gunga has the badge...
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This wouldn't be too detailed, would it?Originally posted by Joshua1975:We call it a team. 1st let get clear what a PF Coy do? It does not oni do DZ, it oso do AS, LZ, PZ as well as BH. For BH most of the time the NDU will be around to work hand in hand.
A PF will not stay around for too long ie to say once the 1st group of main body landed, the PF commander will hand over the whatever Z and move off to prepare PZ or PS. PF will always be the 1st in to open 'windows' for the main body and the last one out needless to say 'close the windows'
Next the Size of a DZ, AS, LZ, PZ and BH.
DZ for loads or pax has a diff set up. A well train PF team of 4 to 5 man can operate a DZ.
AS will need 1 X PF Coy to set up and operate.
1 X LZ is make up of 3 or 4 LS. Number of birds depend.
1 X Team for LS.
1 X PL for LZ. ie to say 1 X PF Coy can operate up to 4+1 LZ.
As for BH, it will depend how big or long the BH is. Example like D-day, per sector need at least a PL size.
Pathfinder. First In Last Out. -
Originally posted by yangie:This wouldn't be too detailed, would it?
if this is so call detailed, than pleace closed down Military Nuts. having guys post SAF personal photo in here, what is that called? -
Tot of bring it up again. Looking for all Pathfinder in SG and round the world.
http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=80260 -
Yes, the navy seals badge, or whateve name it is, probly is a more uncommon sight, n def look more impressive. i've seen cdos with us ranger tab n navy seals badge....they jus shine in paradeOriginally posted by Ponders:IT is the US pathfinder course.
Basically its a 5 week course focusing on navigation and preparation of drop zone.
But I do not think this is a rare badge compared to the US Special OPs badge. Many of us would call it the Navy Seals Badge, but the badge's official name is US Special Operation Badge.
ITs the one with an eagle grabbing onto a trident.
any other uncommon badges to mention?