What women wants.
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Well, I take the definition of materialistic as the following:
A great or excessive regard for worldly concerns.
I mean of course everyone is concerned about having certain necessities in life so that we can live comfortably, about having money so that we can acquire those necessities, but it is only when someone is so consumed by greed to acquire those worldly possession can he or she be branded as being materialistic. I do want a job that can provide me and my family with a comfortable home and life in the future, but because I am not consumed by the desire to own 10 diamond rings or to live in a condominium or bungalow, I do not think I am materialistic.
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haha...this kid like to female bash...Originally posted by FeowFeow:YAWN
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Soul attraction!?!? Woah... tatz deep, me no understand, me no pray to god.... much, unless strike ToTo or 4D. Personal experience? Watz the book's name again?? Where u get it??Originally posted by icyprincess:Peter will never get a date if he keeps sitting around and doing nothing to help himself. It is not that girls are not attracted to him because of his looks, but he is not making an effort to communicate with the opposite sex.
Hmm, I dunno how true this is for every ladies out there, but this is what it says about the stages women go through when they fall in love, in the following order:
First, she will fall in love with your mind (mental chemistry). This means she is attracted to something in a guy's character. It could be a way of how he smiles, of how he expresses consideration for others, of the kind of questions he asks, the values he lives his life by...all of these are ways a man can express his character.
Second, she will fall in love with a man's personality. She will discover the kind of personality in a man which she is most compatible with, the one she actually feels safe being herself.
Third, she will fall in love with a man physically. This is the so-called physical attraction level, when a woman wants to be touched, when she wants to be kissed and hugged. Not that many men will make it to the level when they can stimulate her both mentally and physically, so now the circle of men she is interested in grows smaller and smaller...
Fourth, she will finally experience soul attraction. She will finally realize after going through the previous 3 stages, that this is the person she wants to be with. This realization is not something that she has concluded on basis of comparisons of what is available or what could be possible. Her soul will just know.
Taken from a book I have read before, finds to be kinda true for me. I know I will never fall for someone without loving his personality and character first, so he can be as goodlooking as Brad Pitt but his personality is like shit, I will still kick him into the gutter 
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Book title is Mars and Venus on a Date. A friend gave it to me for my bdayOriginally posted by Boo777:Soul attraction!?!? Woah... tatz deep, me no understand, me no pray to god.... much, unless strike ToTo or 4D. Personal experience? Watz the book's name again?? Where u get it??
Personaly experience ah..dun think I have reached until the 4th level yet If I have, I would be getting ready to get married le haha...
It would be a very special person before I can reach stage 4 together with him
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Special Person?? Hoooooo..... tatz a tip-off.
Mars and Venus on a Date.... hmm... might make a small visit to Takashimaya's bookstore(watz the bookstore name again?? Damn... forgot) and make a sweep.Originally posted by icyprincess:Book title is Mars and Venus on a Date. A friend gave it to me for my bday
Personaly experience ah..dun think I have reached until the 4th level yet If I have, I would be getting ready to get married le haha...
It would be a very special person before I can reach stage 4 together with him
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Grammar mistake:
Waht Women Want.
There's is no "s" even if the thread originator thinks women has lots of wants and wanted to harp on the fact that pershaps its just him...
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Would your friend, Peter goes for a NICE fat and ugly girl who's having a bad hair day...? If he can, maybe I can intro...?Originally posted by caramon:If we ask any woman what she's looking for in a man, she'll come out with a long list of ennobling qualities: a sense of humor; a guy who's nice to her and treats her well; good values; a strong moral character, interesting and intelligent, but monetary terms will never be in the picture.. Does that means she will go for the poor guys if he have the above qualities? ... NO...
Many women lie.. They are experts at self-deceit because if they ever admitted to themselves what they really want from men, then they'd be forced to acknowledge that they don't really want a "nice" guy.. They are equally contradicting as they always lament about the lack of "Nice" men arounds..
I always watch what a woman does, rather than what she says.. And what does she actually do? When it comes to choosing men, she heads straight for the cash.. What women want most from men -- and therefore the criterion most significant to them in selecting a mate -- is money or the assurance of thereof in the future.. ThatÂ’s probably why guys with a bigger house have an edge over the poor live-with-parents-kid.. And guys driving Lexus have an edge over SMRT riders...
You'll never catch a woman saying what she wants is a tall handsome man who drives a continental car, with lots of money and lives in a condo.. They got to have thick skin aka leather to do that (and we all know how lovingly soft the skins of sweet asian things are.)
Some women are blatant about their mercenary choices, openly choosing men with substantial material assets that they can exploit.. But most are subconscious hypocrites, screening out less successful men without admitting it to themselves.. They publicly announce that all they want is a nice guy, but privately disregard any men who don't meet their elevated standards for money, success, and status..
Let's be honest -- if women really chose men based on what they say they're looking for, then every nice, average guy out there would be besieged with females trying to go out with him.. Like my friend Peter, nice, average looking generally stay at home on the weekends with a date from the PC/TV.. -
By the way... All talk and no action would make a dull boy... Which... Very much gives the answer to your question now, doesn't it...?
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of cos he has to be special, because for me he will be my PrinceOriginally posted by Boo777:Special Person?? Hoooooo..... tatz a tip-off.
Mars and Venus on a Date.... hmm... might make a small visit to Takashimaya's bookstore(watz the bookstore name again?? Damn... forgot) and make a sweep.
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Yeap yeap... I second tat!!
Today's Friday!! Comon!! Letz go to Newsroom and blow some chicks away!!!
So... who's selling Claymore??Originally posted by Devil1976:By the way... All talk and no action would make a dull boy... Which... Very much gives the answer to your question now, doesn't it...? -
Newsroom's still packed like hell on Fridays..?Originally posted by Boo777:Yeap yeap... I second tat!!
Today's Friday!! Comon!! Letz go to Newsroom and blow some chicks away!!!
So... who's selling Claymore??
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By posting his pic and be ridicule upon? Unless I have his permission..Originally posted by M©+square:I suggest you post Pete's picture or PM me his pic and i'll decide from the first impression.
It's difficult to quantify how nice is nice, how average looking and how kind.
Bring him to outing if possible.
Anyway, do you succeed in having any dates and sees yourself better or lousier compared to him? Hope to see your reply.
Cheers
Outing? I don't think he will go..
Compare to him, I am more of a " Jerk" so naturally I have my fair share of gals surround me.. -
Ya.. at the right place and the right time.. after marriage most file for divorce.. Because they finally realised they chose "Jerk" rather than someone like Peter..Originally posted by elindra:There are nice guys and there are doormats.
Doormats are the ones who don't get a date.
From what you are saying, all the guys who are married, are rich and handsome
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The situation had become so bad that most just head for vietnam brides.. In fact I am more worry of local ladies who are materialistic and in self deceit.. When the times come, I will introduce Peter to some brides agency..Originally posted by choco B:While I empathize with you and your friend about loneliness and the problems you face in getting some sugah, there is only so much you can whine about day after day on the forum before it's obvious that you're wallowing in self-pity, bitterness and plain laziness. Whining about the situation, refusing to accept that the whole gender-romance thing is a more complex and complicated situation than what you perceive it to be, and refusing to recognise the alternate opinions and possible solutions to it, will not get you anywhere except downhill.
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just curious, what about (young) girls who are popular and earn 5digits a month (thru their own work obviously)? going by your definition it seems like there arent any gals who cant buy their own bmw's and condos .... and dont tell me there arent any such gals .... i do happen to noe them ...Originally posted by caramon:If we ask any woman what she's looking for in a man, she'll come out with a long list of ennobling qualities: a sense of humor; a guy who's nice to her and treats her well; good values; a strong moral character, interesting and intelligent, but monetary terms will never be in the picture.. Does that means she will go for the poor guys if he have the above qualities? ... NO...
Many women lie.. They are experts at self-deceit because if they ever admitted to themselves what they really want from men, then they'd be forced to acknowledge that they don't really want a "nice" guy.. They are equally contradicting as they always lament about the lack of "Nice" men arounds..
I always watch what a woman does, rather than what she says.. And what does she actually do? When it comes to choosing men, she heads straight for the cash.. What women want most from men -- and therefore the criterion most significant to them in selecting a mate -- is money or the assurance of thereof in the future.. ThatÂ’s probably why guys with a bigger house have an edge over the poor live-with-parents-kid.. And guys driving Lexus have an edge over SMRT riders...
You'll never catch a woman saying what she wants is a tall handsome man who drives a continental car, with lots of money and lives in a condo.. They got to have thick skin aka leather to do that (and we all know how lovingly soft the skins of sweet asian things are.)
Some women are blatant about their mercenary choices, openly choosing men with substantial material assets that they can exploit.. But most are subconscious hypocrites, screening out less successful men without admitting it to themselves.. They publicly announce that all they want is a nice guy, but privately disregard any men who don't meet their elevated standards for money, success, and status..
Let's be honest -- if women really chose men based on what they say they're looking for, then every nice, average guy out there would be besieged with females trying to go out with him.. Like my friend Peter, nice, average looking generally stay at home on the weekends with a date from the PC/TV.. -
Most 'modern' women wants security, and to them, security means money.. Full stop.. Unlike our parents or grand-parents era, the meaning of "security" means a different composition altogether..
So most ladies look for more "mature" man.. It doesnt matter if he's shorter than her, carries a pot-belly, begining to bald and older by 8 years or above.. WHY ? Because that old fart is rich and can afford life of luxury that many could only dream.. when question, they goes : oh I need someone who can provide me with "security"..
Women lies about anything, they are good at self-deceit.. the plumber could holds a thousand good qualities but women wouldn't even stop to consider..
So money -- or the assurance of money in the future -- is the single most significant criterion in how women choose men.. The blame for this phenomenon lies in our society -- a society which promotes female arrogance and the manipulation of men; a society which panders to females across the board..
In this day and age when women are screaming about equal rights, can there be any excuse for the hypocrisy of female mercenary behavior? When women earn as much -- or more -- than men, why should guys be forced to hand over their hard-earned cash to women? And why should men allow themselves to be chosen primarily on their ability to earn?
If male-female relationships are going to change for the better, it's entirely up to us to enforce the change.. If we stop paying for women, then women will be forced to choose us for qualities other than the size of our wallets.. -
Most 'modern' women wants security, and to them, security means money.. Full stop.. Unlike our parents or grand-parents era, the meaning of "security" means a different composition altogether..
You said it yourself caramon...most women. While I do agree with you that there are many materialistic women around I don't think there's much point harping about it. We guys will just have to choose the diamonds from the dust! It sucks i noe, but c'est la vie! -
why be so damn selfish and only keep thinking about yourself all the time? Stop thinking about your hard-earned cash and whether it is fair to give it to the woman...just share the expenses la...Originally posted by caramon:Most 'modern' women wants security, and to them, security means money.. Full stop.. Unlike our parents or grand-parents era, the meaning of "security" means a different composition altogether..
So most ladies look for more "mature" man.. It doesnt matter if he's shorter than her, carries a pot-belly, begining to bald and older by 8 years or above.. WHY ? Because that old fart is rich and can afford life of luxury that many could only dream.. when question, they goes : oh I need someone who can provide me with "security"..
Women lies about anything, they are good at self-deceit.. the plumber could holds a thousand good qualities but women wouldn't even stop to consider..
So money -- or the assurance of money in the future -- is the single most significant criterion in how women choose men.. The blame for this phenomenon lies in our society -- a society which promotes female arrogance and the manipulation of men; a society which panders to females across the board..
In this day and age when women are screaming about equal rights, can there be any excuse for the hypocrisy of female mercenary behavior? When women earn as much -- or more -- than men, why should guys be forced to hand over their hard-earned cash to women? And why should men allow themselves to be chosen primarily on their ability to earn?
If male-female relationships are going to change for the better, it's entirely up to us to enforce the change.. If we stop paying for women, then women will be forced to choose us for qualities other than the size of our wallets..
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this is the kiam ka nah women want to avoid ...
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hey hey this topic has been in my mind most of the time...well met some women, some really dun mind if ur jus avg n not rich but there are some who r into rich guys only...hmm...so i must say both kind of women do exist!! but anyway i tink just work hard n earn lots of money now, so in the end u got more potential for a woman to want u...
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Relax dude.... Maybe you're just mixing around with the wrong company...?Originally posted by caramon:Most 'modern' women wants security, and to them, security means money.. Full stop.. Unlike our parents or grand-parents era, the meaning of "security" means a different composition altogether..
So most ladies look for more "mature" man.. It doesnt matter if he's shorter than her, carries a pot-belly, begining to bald and older by 8 years or above.. WHY ? Because that old fart is rich and can afford life of luxury that many could only dream.. when question, they goes : oh I need someone who can provide me with "security"..
Women lies about anything, they are good at self-deceit.. the plumber could holds a thousand good qualities but women wouldn't even stop to consider..
So money -- or the assurance of money in the future -- is the single most significant criterion in how women choose men.. The blame for this phenomenon lies in our society -- a society which promotes female arrogance and the manipulation of men; a society which panders to females across the board..
In this day and age when women are screaming about equal rights, can there be any excuse for the hypocrisy of female mercenary behavior? When women earn as much -- or more -- than men, why should guys be forced to hand over their hard-earned cash to women? And why should men allow themselves to be chosen primarily on their ability to earn?
If male-female relationships are going to change for the better, it's entirely up to us to enforce the change.. If we stop paying for women, then women will be forced to choose us for qualities other than the size of our wallets.. -
Ya, maybe I am too judgemental.. there's only this much that I can do to knock some sense into them.. I only wish my friends and all guys who are deem "unwanted" and "loser" by those feminist well.. No harm intended to the rest of Nice ladies around...Originally posted by Devil1976:Relax dude.... Maybe you're just mixing around with the wrong company...? -
How do you expect to 'knock some sense' into people when you're not even listening to what others have got to say to you?Originally posted by caramon:Ya, maybe I am too judgemental.. there's only this much that I can do to knock some sense into them.. I only wish my friends and all guys who are deem "unwanted" and "loser" by those feminist well.. No harm intended to the rest of Nice ladies around... -
I don't think you know what you are talking about CaramonOriginally posted by caramon:Ya.. at the right place and the right time.. after marriage most file for divorce.. Because they finally realised they chose "Jerk" rather than someone like Peter..
What do you mean right place and right time? So are you trying to say that the so called 'nice' guys whom girls marry are really jerks in disguise because they upkeep the 'nice' guy image when they are dating? I think you should give the majority of Singaporean guys more credit than that!
As for Peter, from what I foresee, if he even exsist, sounds like a potential henpecked husband who gets stepped all over by the wife. Who after some time might get bored with him which, ultimately lead to divorce. When the woman don't respect the man, you can forget about the marriage working. This works both ways.
Let's face it. We grow up in a materialistic society whereby success is placed alot on the results you get, the money you earn. I agree that a group of women want the best of both worlds, but there are plenty of girls out there who will settle for an average guy whom they love, live in a HDB flat and maybe hope that they can afford a small family car soon. Anyway, isn't that what the majority of Singaporeans doing now? -
If you ask me, I'd have to say, women of different age groups want different things.
In their teens, girls wanna experience what it's like to love and to be loved in return. This is commonly known as "puppy love". Hanging out with their boyfriends actually feels the same as hanging out with their chummy girl-friends. In other words, their boyfriends are so-called the girls' "confidante". And the couple is usually of the same age? *shrugs*
In their 20s, women tend to look further. Some wanna concentrate on career, while the family-oriented ones will think of settling down young. The former will have no qualms in telling guys interested in them to get lost. But the latter will look forward to a fairy-tale ending at the end of the day. This time, the women hoping that their counterpart will be the older party, IMO. Reason: More mature and can take care of them, not to mention, the guy will definitely have a higher spending power.
In their 30s, I guess women don't have much choices, yeah?
But all in all, I guess each and every single lady out there needs a man who will love them, care for, and provide for them (after getting married).
**Above are all my views ah. No offence meant!