Is it true tat u'l never be with the person u love the most?
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wah kao.. chim...
anyway, i believe this is just psychological... i will treat my guy aas the one i love the most. always.
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wah..Yunhaier quite knowledgeable..
Anyway,regarding the topic.. its hard for me to say..I dont think I know what love is. To love sum1, we need understand what love is in the 1st place. -
Somewhat the same for the earlier parts.Originally posted by Yunhaier:The actual concept of 'The One' is but a spiritual theory in Love, which is altogether, a different topic.
Cheers
I want to see your version of this. (above mentioned)
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Dear UA,
It depends on your character. If you choose to make the 1 you marry the greatest love of your life, then it will be just that.
If you choose to pine over someone lost, then it will be just that.
But you'll have to ask yourself: If you choose the latter, will you be truly happy?
FeowFeowOriginally posted by ua_24:
I was wondering, i read once that u'l never be together with someone u love the most.. instead it's someone u jus love.. n happens to love u back..
i was kinda wondering if any of you guys out there have any comments??[/b] -
Seriously, I am quite drained to type this out as Yunhaier fell sick yesterday and is on medical leave today.Originally posted by M©+square:Somewhat the same for the earlier parts.
I want to see your version of this. (above mentioned) 
Anyway, here's a summary version of 'The One' - also known as Higher Twin Self Theory.
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Our complete soul is actually made up of two energies - Masculine and Feminine. Before we were born, the soul is split up into two, so each of us either represent Masculine or Feminine Soul, and goes into the reincarnation cycle.
Our destiny in love is to seek for the other half of us... the soul that was separated due to reincarnation. Have you ever felt how intensely close or familiar... a strange deja vu... this stranger has stir and conjured feelings in your heart even if you do not personally know him/her? As though you have known him/her for ages?
This represented 'The One' - our other half, like a piece of missing puzzle. So when a marriage/relationship take place with 'The One' - you feel wholesome. As though you were finally completed... in aspects of love.
***
However CloUdiSm acknowledge this instead: You might already know that this "soul mate" thing is a subject that really gets on my nerves. In fact, I'd like to track down and kick right in the shins the person who started the rumor that one of our main purposes in life is to find our soul mate.
It's not.
The odds against it are astronomical.
And even if they weren't, the soul mate we find in the course of this lifetime wouldn't necessarily be a lover or spouse at all. The closest thing I have to a soul mate on this earth is my granddaughter Angelia.
Many people look so disillusioned when I announce that the soul mate search is a myth, like I'm taking their favorite fairy tale away. I'm not, believe me. Giving up the idea that there is a soul mate for us somewhere and it's our job to find them can be downright liberating. Few things bring tears to my eyes more quickly than clients who stay in abusive relationships because they have confused the constant emotional intensity with their concept of what having a soul mate must be like.
Even clients with perfectly nice marriages sadly tell me that their greatest failure was in never having found their soul mate. The term soul mate gets mistaken for everything from infatuation to lust to an excuse for stalking, obsession, and domestic violence.
Maybe it will help if we get straight what a true soul mate is. We are created with spirits that have both male and female aspects. We live lifetimes as both genders, as a matter of fact. I have never met anyone who's always been male or always been female every time around.
We are also created with an "identical twin" spirit whose male and female aspects are essentially mirror aspects of our own. That twin spirit is our soul mate. Our soul mate is not the other half of us, any more than we are the other half of our soul mate. I don't consider myself half a person. Do you, really? I certainly don't think there's anything romantic about thinking we are all a bunch of halves walking around. If I'm not half a person, and you're not half a person, why on earth would any of us spend one minute, let alone a lifetime, looking for "another half" that doesn't exist and that none of us whole people would have any use for anyway?
On The Other Side we're probably closer to our soul mates than we are to any other spirit, but we're hardly joined at the hip. We and our soul mates happily pursue separate friendships, separate interests, separate work and studies, and above all, our own separate identities. With our soul mates we enjoy the most intimate love there is -- free, unconditional, liberated and liberating, with a mutual knowledge only true identical twin spirits can share.
Like all spirits on The Other Side, each of the soul mates can choose to be born on earth for another lifetime. They might only come here once or twice, like my Spirit guide Francine. They might feel the need to come again and again -- I'm on my fifty-fourth time around, and my last, I'm delighted to announce. But compared to eternity, even fifty-four lifetimes amount to about a minute and a half.
Which brings up an obvious question: What are the chances that you and your soul mate are ever going to show up on earth at the same time? Why would you feel the need to, since you are always together on The Other Side anyway, and this experience we call "life" is really nothing more than just a quick trip away from Home?
Not to mention the odds against the two of you being on earth in the same general age range, enough geographical proximity for you to run into each other somewhere along the way, and the right gender for the two of you to become a couple, which seems to be the top priority of the whole soul mate myth?
So please, give yourselves (and me) a break and stop looking for a soul mate who in all probability is having a great time on The Other Side right now, waiting for you to come Home. Don't set yourself up for all that pressure and disappointment. Don't cling to a bad relationship in the misguided belief that it is, after all, your soul mate and you belong together, even if you're miserable. Don't devalue a perfectly good relationship because you're missing that "soul mate feeling". Don't believe for one second that there's only one person on this whole planet you're "destined" to be with -- what a depressing thought that is! And I definitely don't want you to reach the later years of your life thinking you failed because you never found someone who wasn't even here but whom you'll be having a wonderful, effortless reunion with if you'll must be patient for a few more "minutes" until you're Home again.
What you will find as you move through this lifetime are any number of kindred souls -- spirits you have known in one or more past lives. I'm sure you have experienced the instant feeling of familiarity, either good or bad, that happens on meeting a kindred soul. Sometimes that instant familiarity is the springboard for yet another earthly experience together, as friends, as lovers and spouses, or family members.
-Sylvia Browne, The Other Side and Back
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P.S: Karmic Relationship mimic a feeling VERY similar to 'The One' theory. I experienced it before and even I, had problems discerning it instantaneously. Which is why, so many people mistaken a karmic relationship for 'The One'. Seriously, it takes quite a bit of deep thinking to understand this whole pile of sh!t.
Cheers -
Originally posted by alexkusu:
Love is experience, not knowledge. (To me, at least)
To love sum1, we need understand what love is in the 1st place.
Not sure if Love (as in Eros, romance, or what common people refer it as) could really be understood. One could spend an entire lifetime trying to understand love, and still end up missing the point. -
I thought we were in different school of thoughts just last month.Originally posted by Tuatau:Love is experience, not knowledge. (To me, at least)
Not sure if Love (as in Eros, romance, or what common people refer it as) could really be understood. One could spend an entire lifetime trying to understand love, and still end up missing the point.
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Originally posted by Yunhaier:
Alittle heavy on astro and karmic theory.
Seriously, I am quite drained to type this out as Yunhaier fell sick yesterday and is on medical leave today.
Anyway, here's a summary version of 'The One' - also known as Higher Twin Self Theory.
*** Our complete soul is actually made up of two energies - Masculine and Feminine. Before we were born, the soul is split up into two, so each of us either represent Masculine or Feminine Soul, and goes into the reincarnation cycle.
Our destiny in love is to seek for the other half of us... the soul that was separated due to reincarnation. Have you ever felt how intensely close or familiar... a strange deja vu... this stranger has stir and conjured feelings in your heart even if you do not personally know him/her? As though you have known him/her for ages?
This represented 'The One' - our other half, like a piece of missing puzzle. So when a marriage/relationship take place with 'The One' - you feel wholesome. As though you were finally completed... in aspects of love.
***
[b]However CloUdiSm acknowledge this instead: You might already know that this "soul mate" thing is a subject that really gets on my nerves. In fact, I'd like to track down and kick right in the shins the person who started the rumor that one of our main purposes in life is to find our soul mate.
It's not.
The odds against it are astronomical.
And even if they weren't, the soul mate we find in the course of this lifetime wouldn't necessarily be a lover or spouse at all. The closest thing I have to a soul mate on this earth is my granddaughter Angelia.
Many people look so disillusioned when I announce that the soul mate search is a myth, like I'm taking their favorite fairy tale away. I'm not, believe me. Giving up the idea that there is a soul mate for us somewhere and it's our job to find them can be downright liberating. Few things bring tears to my eyes more quickly than clients who stay in abusive relationships because they have confused the constant emotional intensity with their concept of what having a soul mate must be like.
Even clients with perfectly nice marriages sadly tell me that their greatest failure was in never having found their soul mate. The term soul mate gets mistaken for everything from infatuation to lust to an excuse for stalking, obsession, and domestic violence.
Maybe it will help if we get straight what a true soul mate is. We are created with spirits that have both male and female aspects. We live lifetimes as both genders, as a matter of fact. I have never met anyone who's always been male or always been female every time around.
We are also created with an "identical twin" spirit whose male and female aspects are essentially mirror aspects of our own. That twin spirit is our soul mate. Our soul mate is not the other half of us, any more than we are the other half of our soul mate. I don't consider myself half a person. Do you, really? I certainly don't think there's anything romantic about thinking we are all a bunch of halves walking around. If I'm not half a person, and you're not half a person, why on earth would any of us spend one minute, let alone a lifetime, looking for "another half" that doesn't exist and that none of us whole people would have any use for anyway?
On The Other Side we're probably closer to our soul mates than we are to any other spirit, but we're hardly joined at the hip. We and our soul mates happily pursue separate friendships, separate interests, separate work and studies, and above all, our own separate identities. With our soul mates we enjoy the most intimate love there is -- free, unconditional, liberated and liberating, with a mutual knowledge only true identical twin spirits can share.
Like all spirits on The Other Side, each of the soul mates can choose to be born on earth for another lifetime. They might only come here once or twice, like my Spirit guide Francine. They might feel the need to come again and again -- I'm on my fifty-fourth time around, and my last, I'm delighted to announce. But compared to eternity, even fifty-four lifetimes amount to about a minute and a half.
Which brings up an obvious question: What are the chances that you and your soul mate are ever going to show up on earth at the same time? Why would you feel the need to, since you are always together on The Other Side anyway, and this experience we call "life" is really nothing more than just a quick trip away from Home?
Not to mention the odds against the two of you being on earth in the same general age range, enough geographical proximity for you to run into each other somewhere along the way, and the right gender for the two of you to become a couple, which seems to be the top priority of the whole soul mate myth?
So please, give yourselves (and me) a break and stop looking for a soul mate who in all probability is having a great time on The Other Side right now, waiting for you to come Home. Don't set yourself up for all that pressure and disappointment. Don't cling to a bad relationship in the misguided belief that it is, after all, your soul mate and you belong together, even if you're miserable. Don't devalue a perfectly good relationship because you're missing that "soul mate feeling". Don't believe for one second that there's only one person on this whole planet you're "destined" to be with -- what a depressing thought that is! And I definitely don't want you to reach the later years of your life thinking you failed because you never found someone who wasn't even here but whom you'll be having a wonderful, effortless reunion with if you'll must be patient for a few more "minutes" until you're Home again.
What you will find as you move through this lifetime are any number of kindred souls -- spirits you have known in one or more past lives. I'm sure you have experienced the instant feeling of familiarity, either good or bad, that happens on meeting a kindred soul. Sometimes that instant familiarity is the springboard for yet another earthly experience together, as friends, as lovers and spouses, or family members.
-Sylvia Browne, The Other Side and Back
***
P.S: Karmic Relationship mimic a feeling VERY similar to 'The One' theory. I experienced it before and even I, had problems discerning it instantaneously. Which is why, so many people mistaken a karmic relationship for 'The One'. Seriously, it takes quite a bit of deep thinking to understand this whole pile of sh!t.
Cheers[/b]
Hard to digest esp for me when i'm not into astro and karmic studies.
Tired? Come come, i massage you.
Cheers -
Felt a little sadness after reading Yun's post.
Is there such thing as soulmate? Will we ever met our soulmate?
Maybe she/he just passed you by on a busy Chinatown night, and no more.
To reply the thread poster, think 'contentment' is the word. -
Originally posted by M©+square:
Aren't we still? Have I defected to your camp, already?
I thought we were in different school of thoughts just last month.
If you were referring to dreamland's thread, I remembered saying something like:Originally posted by Tuatau:
Comedy of errors, perhaps? I didn't understand what you were saying in that love could be understood, and you didn't understand what I was saying in that love is not meant to be understood?
One still does not understand how your essay relates to your post that love could indeed be understood and "stays where it is", but "humans alters and changes it as they desires".
Never mind, though. One does agree that love, like faith and other concepts with subjective definitions, is not meant to be understood, but to be experienced.
Or perhaps your defintion of Love (selfless, Agape, etc.) is different from the one I have quoted in the above reply (Eros, romance, etc.)? We may not be on the same page... -
Originally posted by M©+square:Alittle heavy on astro and karmic theory.
Hard to digest esp for me when i'm not into astro and karmic studies.
Tired? Come come, i massage you.
Cheers You are asking me about my definition of The One mah, so I type lor. Anyway, I hold this definition for years.
P.S: So you wanna eat my dofu?
Cheers -
Hi Magnus,
Don't think Auntie Yun meant it to be depressing, rather, just sharing something with us? : ) Perhaps what the article says is that we should open our minds a little, & maybe accept that your true soulmate may Not be the 1 you marry, but may be your granddaughter (as the author has stated), or even your sibling or friend.
Perhaps what this article is saying is that, if we constantly harbour the narrow ideals of what a soulmate is, we may be going on a fruitless search. Why plant doubts in your own head & heart about your own partner? It'd be totally horrible to go through each day asking youself after every quarre: Is he/she indeed my soulmate? I'd hate to go through that.
Personally, I prefer to keep an open mind. Whether my guy is my soulmate or Not, Nobody will ever know for sure. But rather than waste our time pondering on what can't be answered, both of us would rather plan for fun days together, do stuff we enjoy together, & make our relationship work. To me, that is closer to what Love is all about, rather than always wondering if we're each other's soulmates. For all we know, we are. But even if later on, each of us finds out that our soulmates are our children/grandchildren, does it make a difference to the happy relationship/marriage we have?
FeowFeowOriginally posted by Magnus:Felt a little sadness after reading Yun's post.
Is there such thing as soulmate? Will we ever met our soulmate?
Maybe she/he just passed you by on a busy Chinatown night, and no more.
To reply the thread poster, think 'contentment' is the word. -
I know you hold alot of things for years.Originally posted by Yunhaier: You are asking me about my definition of The One mah, so I type lor. Anyway, I hold this definition for years.
P.S: So you wanna eat my dofu?
Cheers
Impart when it's time to la.
dofu, is it situated somewhere else?
Cheers -
Yup, we're in different page...or different book?Originally posted by Tuatau:Comedy of errors, perhaps? I didn't understand what you were saying in that love could be understood, and you didn't understand what I was saying in that love is not meant to be understood?
Or perhaps your defintion of Love (selfless, Agape, etc.) is different from the one I have quoted in the above reply (Eros, romance, etc.)? We may not be on the same page... -
This thread is potential R(A) material
FeowFeowOriginally posted by M©+square:I know you hold alot of things for years.
Impart when it's time to la.
dofu, is it situated somewhere else?
Cheers -
You got it all right missy.Originally posted by FeowFeow:Hi Magnus,
Don't think Auntie Yun meant it to be depressing, rather, just sharing something with us? : ) Perhaps what the article says is that we should open our minds a little, & maybe accept that your true soulmate may Not be the 1 you marry, but may be your granddaughter (as the author has stated), or even your sibling or friend.
Perhaps what this article is saying is that, if we constantly harbour the narrow ideals of what a soulmate is, we may be going on a fruitless search. Why plant doubts in your own head & heart about your own partner? It'd be totally horrible to go through each day asking youself after every quarre: Is he/she indeed my soulmate? I'd hate to go through that.
Personally, I prefer to keep an open mind. Whether my guy is my soulmate or Not, Nobody will ever know for sure. But rather than waste our time pondering on what can't be answered, both of us would rather plan for fun days together, do stuff we enjoy together, & make our relationship work. To me, that is closer to what Love is all about, rather than always wondering if we're each other's soulmates. For all we know, we are. But even if later on, each of us finds out that our soulmates are our children/grandchildren, does it make a difference to the happy relationship/marriage we have?
FeowFeow
Cheers -
Originally posted by M©+square:I know you hold alot of things for years.
Impart when it's time to la.
dofu, is it situated somewhere else?
Cheers Chey, not everyone is able to accept mere words from a mere stranger... you know what I mean? Usually, I tell such things to good friends in reality... when the occasion arises.
P.S: Si siang...Originally posted by FeowFeow:This thread is potential R(A) material
FeowFeow -
i dun see anything wrong in toufu eating.
I like to eat toufu as well -
Hi Feow Feow,Originally posted by FeowFeow:Hi Magnus,
Don't think Auntie Yun meant it to be depressing, rather, just sharing something with us? : ) Perhaps what the article says is that we should open our minds a little, & maybe accept that your true soulmate may Not be the 1 you marry, but may be your granddaughter (as the author has stated), or even your sibling or friend.
Perhaps what this article is saying is that, if we constantly harbour the narrow ideals of what a soulmate is, we may be going on a fruitless search. Why plant doubts in your own head & heart about your own partner? It'd be totally horrible to go through each day asking youself after every quarre: Is he/she indeed my soulmate? I'd hate to go through that.
Personally, I prefer to keep an open mind. Whether my guy is my soulmate or Not, Nobody will ever know for sure. But rather than waste our time pondering on what can't be answered, both of us would rather plan for fun days together, do stuff we enjoy together, & make our relationship work. To me, that is closer to what Love is all about, rather than always wondering if we're each other's soulmates. For all we know, we are. But even if later on, each of us finds out that our soulmates are our children/grandchildren, does it make a difference to the happy relationship/marriage we have?
FeowFeow
I understand what you are saying.
It's a state of mind.
But there are times whereby just when you thought you found/identify a 'soulmate'.. you lost him/her thru no fault of each other. You feel sad, even bitter. You start to wonder.