DESTINY
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If U believe in destiny, please reply. And how much out of 100% of your life.
For me nearly 70 to 80%, seem alot rite? I was 'punished' for going against it.
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whats ur story? how were u punished?
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I think many believe in destiny, but didn't really notice or bother. It was many years ago, example in relationship. Some pple like myself will try very hard to get what we want. But in the end all suffer. I learnt that we can try our best, but never 'force', or going against destiny... especial sometimes there are 'signs'(as in 'destiny giving u hints').
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the smart ones use destiny to help you not go against you.
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I sure like 2 know how 2 USE destiny to help me, pls do enlighten me. So far I onli been 'taught a lesson' by destiny & I am still learningOriginally posted by zeny:the smart ones use destiny to help you not go against you.
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I remember a quote.
"It is not a matter of chance but a matter of choice that determine your destiny"
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yeah for me i believe we walk our own paths of life. which direction we go it's all in our hands.
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What they're using is not 'destiny' lah..Originally posted by zeny:the smart ones use destiny to help you not go against you.
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I think it is good to be positive & motivated, but of coz we can't have all the choices or directions we want, can we? So just wondering how many pple believe in destiny and how much % it can control us. (depend on individual no right or wrong ans)
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Bullshit ? lolOriginally posted by Devil1976:What they're using is not 'destiny' lah..
Well I don believe in destiny.
I believe Destiny is forged by my own hands. -
Originally posted by Sekundes:Bullshit ? lol
Well I don believe in destiny.
I believe Destiny is forged by my own hands. -
Originally posted by Devil1976:
Ironic eh ? -
destiny rules.
it rules about 2.436% of my life. -
Originally posted by ronin47:If U believe in destiny, please reply. And how much out of 100% of your life.
For me nearly 70 to 80%, seem alot rite? I was 'punished' for going against it.
Freewill overpower Destiny.
You are the master of your own fate. It seemed that you are likely 'punished' (I prefer to use the word 'repaying debts') for karma and NOT because you going against destiny. Destiny is constantly being created - so how can you go against something that is constantly being created... no definite shape nor volume, rules nor laws. So how does one goes against destiny?
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Actually i dislike destiny...being led by such notion that it is all up to fate. The importance that i place on someone si often being displaced by destiny...saying not the destined individual as such...destiny whether a matter of chance or choice is sad sometimes....especially if the other person believed strongly in destiny...
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I believe
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I like that, being master of your own fate or destiny is forged by one's own fists(jus kidding). That was b4 I got 'slap by destiny'. I want 2 believe again, but in a different way this time. Maybe I am really 'repaying debts' for my karma. But isn't true for going against destiny? Or should I put it as paying the price to for changing destiny. Ok this may sound silly, destiny to me is sort of like in the movie Martix - a very complex 'system'. And 2 go on further I think supernature, spiriture & religions or even psychology will be involve.
in general I jus wanna know how others have experience or think about destiny/fate & does 'LUCk' have anything to do with destiny. - Of coz u can choose not to believe nothing wrong about it. Definitly I'm not asking pple to believe.
Ok I give an real life example (Not me, but similar) - A person keep trying to avoid a certain group of people or situations. But the same 'events' just keeps happening until that person can predict it's going to happen. I witness b4.
Personally I still believe destiny rules over a person. But I will also try to make 'things/destiny' RIGHT with my own hands. I am still learning... Got any good tips share -
Originally posted by ronin47:I like that, being master of your own fate or destiny is forged by one's own fists(jus kidding). That was b4 I got 'slap by destiny'. I want 2 believe again, but in a different way this time. Maybe I am really 'repaying debts' for my karma. But isn't true for going against destiny? Or should I put it as paying the price to for changing destiny. Ok this may sound silly, destiny to me is sort of like in the movie Martix - a very complex 'system'. And 2 go on further I think supernature, spiriture & religions or even psychology will be involve.
in general I jus wanna know how others have experience or think about destiny/fate & does 'LUCk' have anything to do with destiny. - Of coz u can choose not to believe nothing wrong about it. Definitly I'm not asking pple to believe.
Ok I give an real life example (Not me, but similar) - A person keep trying to avoid a certain group of people or situations. But the same 'events' just keeps happening until that person can predict it's going to happen. I witness b4.
Personally I still believe destiny rules over a person. But I will also try to make 'things/destiny' RIGHT with my own hands. I am still learning... Got any good tips share Your scenario is a common classic of people who still MANTAIN the critical constant, even he/she may have change some variables. A possessive man will gradually find himself suffocating his own relationship. No matter how many different woman enters into his life, the conclusion remained - critical constant not evolved. Result will stay.
An average looking girl, who feels inferior about her appearance, will ALWAYS feel negative about herself. Even if a man, comment how good she appeals to him, psychologically she is unable to accept this complement gracefully. It triggers her unloving automatic thoughts and dismiss it as a sarcasm. If steps are not taken to correct that mindset, this poison will sap all aspects of her life and create hinder progression.
Your karma is a gallery of cosmic debt collected in your unconscious. It kinda shaped your circumstance that you are put into - like the scenario above. Somehow, it seemed to me that you labelled that as your 'destiny' and how 'going against it' creates misery and suffering, but technically speaking, it isn't so. In fact, how you handle your own karma makes your destiny. Destiny cannot appear without you making a decision and handle them, just like the next chapter of a story will only appear if you read on.
It seemed to me that you are keen to decipher part of this so called 'destiny' and work towards a better ending, regardless of the outcome. You might find your answers in Astrology.
P.S: Don't see Destiny as complication. Solve your complication through Freewill and understand Destiny lies in your hands.
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Thanks Yunhaier, u are really good. Some of wat u mentioned r quite close to whatz happening to me, but others r the past.
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See it this way.Originally posted by ronin47:Thanks Yunhaier, u are really good. Some of wat u mentioned r quite close to whatz happening to me, but others r the past.
The word "Destiny" comes from the word "Destination".
I'm a strong believer of "Destiny".
I don't succumb to "Destiny" cause I'm not there yet.
Reason? I'm still alive.
How many people right now can tell you their "destiny"?
None. The only ones who can tell you their "destiny" are the ones who's breathing their last breath.
Let me repeat my story again (of course I think this story aren't new to alot of posters who had read my previous post.
For the past 9yrs, I've come to believe that my destiny is to be a lonely person with no love since I've lost the woman I love 9yrs back and felt the guilt. I did have a few r/s after that but it never really seemed to work and soon I've come to a conclusion that it's my retribution for hurting the girl I love 9yrs ago and it's my destiny now that I have to suffer.
Then the miracle came. I met my current gf 3yrs back and we become soul mates. I even told her about my this "problem" that stuck with me for the past 9yrs. She had been very supportive of me and she's always around to hear me rant about the past and am very patient with all my craps.
5mths back, she came to Singapore to look for me. the following month I went to her hometown in Malaysia to visit her and stayed there for three weeks. And during my stay there, it seemed that the wound that I carry with me all these 9yrs are slowly healing which in fact it's been healed long ago but I never really notice it and kept it in my mind that I'm still wounded. During my last week there when me and her are on the way to Genting, I just suddenly told her that I felt very relieved. She asked me why but I don't know the reason why.
On the night I'm in the coach on my way back to Singapore, during the 9hrs journey alone in the coach, I came to realised the reason and I SMS her and told her that the 9yrs nightmare is gone. And when I reach Singapore, I knew I miss her alot. and for no reason why, the courage is suddenly just there to confess to her that I love her.
Me and my gf are together for almost 4mths now and I knew deep in my heart that I truely love her from the bottom of my heart despite the 9hrs distant between us.
So now tell me again...is this "Fate" or "Destiny" or what is it?
I've learn a lot over these period of time. You won't know what is going to happen tomorrow, so why put a full stop to your life by saying it's your "destiny" to experience all the stuffs?
Learn from experience and face tomorrow with pride. The real "destiny" awaits you and there's no saying what will be it in the end. It's not just about r/s but generally. You can change "Destiny" if you bother to make a step forward instead of just standing down there and do nothing and start complaining that it's your "Destiny" to experience what you experience at the moment. -
i only believe in luck/opportunity
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I believe creating a ZGMF - X42S Destiny Gundam is not impossible.
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hi laosu, thks alot 4 sharing ur story, I noted some part of it. I believe these 'situations' does happened - 'Retribution' & 'Miracle'. Issues like destiny, luck, religions, gods, spiriture stuffs etc.. sometimes can be difficult to define. Believing in 'them' doesn't mean that one would just leave one's life to 'them' & do nothing.
"why put a full stop to your life by saying it's your "destiny" to experience all the stuffs?"
Frankly, i'm sorry i can't share my whole story here. but pls pls dun misunderstand me, i am not complaining & definitely not doing nothing. I did tried lotsa 'stunts'. but it onli get worse... weaken my 'enegries'. I mentioned 'signs' or 'messages', which i realised, this is wat i must go through, u did too rite during the 9yrs?. Note: I am not hearing voices or seeing things
Jus review in brief - 'I had near death situation a few times in the past, i learnt that if u are prepare to live, u must prepare to die... 'it' had given me tonnes of good reasons to live, at the same time good reasons to die."...begining to sound like pyscho
Like most of the posts, in the past, i dun really take 'destiny' seriously & it doesn't bother me at all. I took every opportunities to achieve my goals, never looking back & no regrets, also ignorant to others' feelings, including parents.
Ok I must confess, I had 'destiny' in my hands in a wrong way, I thought knew 'destiny', I did change it... for a 'price' &... 'retribution'. -
"Retribution" in my dictionary means more than "paying dues". "Retribution" to me now means a lesson in life and I learn it good. During the 9yrs, death has always been in my mind just the lack of courage and too many other reasons for me to stick around still but I think you'll understand the torture of being stuck in the middle whereby "you live and you suffer" or "you die and regret". It may be part of your destiny to experience what you have to experience but you always have a choice to choose between two fate. Many times when one experience bad situations, their brain natually bring them to the negative side of the two choices which later on lead them to another path in life. "Destiny" is like a maze game. You come to a split end and that moment if you make a wrong choice, you face the consquences of your own mistake. But if you go on without learning, you'll make the wrong choice again and again and you'll be going around in circle.Originally posted by ronin47:hi laosu, thks alot 4 sharing ur story, I noted some part of it. I believe these 'situations' does happened - 'Retribution' & 'Miracle'. Issues like destiny, luck, religions, gods, spiriture stuffs etc.. sometimes can be difficult to define. Believing in 'them' doesn't mean that one would just leave one's life to 'them' & do nothing.
"why put a full stop to your life by saying it's your "destiny" to experience all the stuffs?"
Frankly, i'm sorry i can't share my whole story here. but pls pls dun misunderstand me, i am not complaining & definitely not doing nothing. I did tried lotsa 'stunts'. but it onli get worse... weaken my 'enegries'. I mentioned 'signs' or 'messages', which i realised, this is wat i must go through, u did too rite during the 9yrs?. Note: I am not hearing voices or seeing things
Jus review in brief - 'I had near death situation a few times in the past, i learnt that if u are prepare to live, u must prepare to die... 'it' had given me tonnes of good reasons to live, at the same time good reasons to die."...begining to sound like pyscho
Like most of the posts, in the past, i dun really take 'destiny' seriously & it doesn't bother me at all. I took every opportunities to achieve my goals, never looking back & no regrets, also ignorant to others' feelings, including parents.
Ok I must confess, I had 'destiny' in my hands in a wrong way, I thought knew 'destiny', I did change it... for a 'price' &... 'retribution'.
Making a right choice is damn important to a person's life but how often can we make the right choice? It's something to learn and to practice and remember as we go on.
I wouldn't say that I'm enlighted now. Peaching is always easier than done. I know which direction I'm supposed to head on to but I'm still a human being living on temptation island. I still need constant reminders not to make mistakes or at least grave mistakes (I'm human..not god..and I still make mistakes now).
The path towards "Destiny" is call "Fate".
Remember this "You can't change Destiny but you can change your Fate".
Easy path or hard one...you decide. -
Frankly, i'm sorry i can't share my whole story here. but pls pls dun misunderstand me, i am not complaining & definitely not doing nothing. I did tried lotsa 'stunts'. but it onli get worse... weaken my 'enegries'. I mentioned 'signs' or 'messages', which i realised, this is wat i must go through, u did too rite during the 9yrs?. Note: I am not hearing voices or seeing things
The 9yrs, I admit was a horrible experience. Maybe all I can tell you now is that you've been trying too hard. Both of us has been trying too hard that we forgot how to let go. I don't know how true this is but now I do believe that God is still fair. You fail in an exam, you pay the price for it by having to go through it again for a year and another exam come. If during that repeat year, you learn well, you pass yoru exam this time round and you'll be well rewarded. (Laymans term. Hope you understand what I'm trying to say. I'm not very good in English.) At least for me, I saw it happen.Jus review in brief - 'I had near death situation a few times in the past, i learnt that if u are prepare to live, u must prepare to die... 'it' had given me tonnes of good reasons to live, at the same time good reasons to die."...begining to sound like pyscho
Haha...so does that make me a pyscho too? In my previous post, I mention that I don't have the courage to die. Actually not quite true. It's not about courage. There's more reasons for me to live on than to die although death will put a stop to the pain I felt. It's a battle between my brain and my heart. Honestly, the war is still on and I can't be sure that one day I'll succumb to Death.
I like the way you phase it "If you are prepared to live, you must be prepared to die" but what not say it this way "If you are prepared to die, then you must be prepared to live"?
Like most of the posts, in the past, i dun really take 'destiny' seriously & it doesn't bother me at all. I took every opportunities to achieve my goals, never looking back & no regrets, also ignorant to others' feelings, including parents.
Ok I must confess, I had 'destiny' in my hands in a wrong way, I thought knew 'destiny', I did change it... for a 'price' &... 'retribution'.
You know...Buddah got this saying that if one can still see his own wrong doings, he still can be saved. It's never too late to turn back if you are willing to. But remember, like I say in the previous post, "Destiny" is the destination all humans are heading and the path is our "Fate". Should we make a wrong choice and took the wrong path, it's never too late to turn back but on the way back is where we'll suffer the consequences of our own mistakes. Short to say, if you have already walk 12km of the wrong path, you have to walk back 12km to where you are in the beginning of the split road and take the other path. Worth it or not, you'll decide. But the earlier you turn back, the lesser sufferings you'll go through.
(P.S. Sorry to bring in religion. I'm a free thinker but I learn the good teachings of all religions to help myself to be a better person. No offence intended.)