How you can help if you know someone who's suicidal?
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How you can help if you know someone who's suicidal?
Possibly you're aware that someone you know is thinking of killing themselves. They've talked about it. They've confided in you. More likely, you're not aware. They're putting out the signals, but you haven't spotted them yet.
So what should you look for? Typically, a person is low, tearful, irritable. Or their eating patterns change, their sleep patterns are disturbed, they're taking less care of themselves, they're exhausted.
Another key could be their situation. There'll usually be some event that's triggered this withdrawal. Loss is a key one - losing a job, losing a partner, bereavement, a major disappointment or illness. If the person has a history of suicide attempts, then you should take it extra seriously.
What you will feel
The first thing you'll feel if you realise someone is suicidal is panic. It's natural - you want to get it right; you want to save them, you want to help them. You may also get confused. Are you seeing what you think you're seeing?
What should you do or not do? Here are some common beliefs about suicide - and the truth behind them.
1. If a person talks about suicide, they won't do it: Wrong. Talking about problems will make people less likely to kill themselves. But it doesn't mean they definitely won't attempt suicide.
2. If you mention suicide, you will put the idea in a person's head. Wrong again. Mentioning it will allow them to talk about it and so ease the possibility. But you won't do any harm at all by asking.
3. People who think about suicide just want attention. Wrong. They typically want to stop pain - their own or other people's. And typically they only think about suicide because they can't think of another way out. Offer them help and the desire to die will fade. What you can do
The first thing to do if you suspect someone's suicidal is simply to listen.
Once they begin to talk, they will begin to feel understood. Once they feel understood, they'll regain a slight glimmer of hope that there may be a solution to their problem - and they'll feel less suicidal.
The second thing to do is to get help. Don't try to cope alone. Get the person talking to family, to friends, to their GP who can help with medication, to a counsellor who can help with emotional support. Get them to phone the Samaritans (or, phone the Samaritans yourself); they will ring the person and give them support.
The more people you get involved in supporting the suicidal person, the better. You must assume the person's problem to be very big, or they wouldn't feel so desperate. It will probably take a lot of resources to sort it out, but you should strive on. PS: If you're helping a suicidal person, you should try and get help yourself to avoid becoming stressed. Suicide is a very straining issue.
Click on this thread http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=75218 to get professional help. -
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This certainly is helpful, now some forumers are gonna start thinking each other as sucidal... lol..
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do you think i am suicidal?
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GOOD work!!!
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Originally posted by M©+square:
Totally agree with you.
[b]How you can help if you know someone who's suicidal?
Possibly you're aware that someone you know is thinking of killing themselves. They've talked about it. They've confided in you. More likely, you're not aware. They're putting out the signals, but you haven't spotted them yet. So what should you look for? Typically, a person is low, tearful, irritable. Or their eating patterns change, their sleep patterns are disturbed, they're taking less care of themselves, they're exhausted.
Another key could be their situation. There'll usually be some event that's triggered this withdrawal. Loss is a key one - losing a job, losing a partner, bereavement, a major disappointment or illness. If the person has a history of suicide attempts, then you should take it extra seriously. What you will feel
The first thing you'll feel if you realise someone is suicidal is panic. It's natural - you want to get it right; you want to save them, you want to help them. You may also get confused. Are you seeing what you think you're seeing?
What should you do or not do? Here are some common beliefs about suicide - and the truth behind them.
1. If a person talks about suicide, they won't do it: Wrong. Talking about problems will make people less likely to kill themselves. But it doesn't mean they definitely won't attempt suicide.
2. If you mention suicide, you will put the idea in a person's head. Wrong again. Mentioning it will allow them to talk about it and so ease the possibility. But you won't do any harm at all by asking.
3. People who think about suicide just want attention. Wrong. They typically want to stop pain - their own or other people's. And typically they only think about suicide because they can't think of another way out. Offer them help and the desire to die will fade. What you can do
The first thing to do if you suspect someone's suicidal is simply to listen.
Once they begin to talk, they will begin to feel understood. Once they feel understood, they'll regain a slight glimmer of hope that there may be a solution to their problem - and they'll feel less suicidal.
The second thing to do is to get help. Don't try to cope alone. Get the person talking to family, to friends, to their GP who can help with medication, to a counsellor who can help with emotional support. Get them to phone the Samaritans (or, phone the Samaritans yourself); they will ring the person and give them support.
The more people you get involved in supporting the suicidal person, the better. You must assume the person's problem to be very big, or they wouldn't feel so desperate. It will probably take a lot of resources to sort it out, but you should strive on. PS: If you're helping a suicidal person, you should try and get help yourself to avoid becoming stressed. Suicide is a very straining issue.
Click on this thread http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=75218 to get professional help.[/b]
But let me quote a personal experience. Sometimes it's not just about the things they say. There are two kind of suicidal types. One, they know they are sucidial and seeks help by talking to someone about it. Two, they know they are sucidial and are bent on seeking death. Usually these type of people are keep quiet of their tots but not without signs.
I've got a friend, she usually are the quiet type of person and doesn't engage much into outdoor activities. We've come to know that she's facing some family problems but she always seemed to us that she's coping well with it and does talk about it to some closer friends and we find nothing amiss.
Just about two weeks before she commit suicide, her behaviour starts to change. She becomes more chatty, more cheerful and initiate to date friends out for movies and even to EC to cycle and canoe. Things she seldom do, she suddenly show immerse interest in it. It came as a bit shock to her friends but we all thought that probably her family problems are mostly solved and she's feeling less stress about it.
It was till the fateful day when we recieve the news that she had commit suicide that we realised that for the past weeks, death has been on her mind and she had planned it since then and all the going out and all the enjoyments are her way of celebrating her last days and she knew that soon she'll be freed from all the problems. In her suicide note, she mention that she felt relieved when she makes this decision and she can finally enjoy her last moments without having to worry about anything else.
I did sense something wrong but quick to pushed that aside cause she seemed really happy. It never occure to any of us that she's celebrating. -
In my own sense, everyone is suicidal and it's just a matter if the button is being pressed on.Originally posted by dragg:do you think i am suicidal? -
This is a useful thread... What about depression>
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Give him/her a new hope for living on
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Well, i'm only half joking dragg, u are completely sucidal haha...
Anyway, back to the serious note,
People, who keep too much to themselves to suffer within,
this seems to be the most cause ?
Hmmm its hard to see if someone really keeps everything to themselves.
Heck I know cause I'm one of them.
I never like telling things to ppl even family..
Any methods to free the trapped souls ? -
Usually people who keeps a lot to themselves have problems placing their trust on anyone for fear of being hurt. Guess the only way for us to help them is to constantly try to gain their trust and also their own efforts to place their trust on us.Originally posted by Sekundes:Well, i'm only half joking dragg, u are completely sucidal haha...
Anyway, back to the serious note,
People, who keep too much to themselves to suffer within,
this seems to be the most cause ?
Hmmm its hard to see if someone really keeps everything to themselves.
Heck I know cause I'm one of them.
I never like telling things to ppl even family..
Any methods to free the trapped souls ? -
Isn't there a forumer who's called sucidal?? oh yah i recall...santuary suciders!!!
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if someone really wants to kill himself, there is no stopping him.
those so called "depressed suicidal teens" are all fakers. they just wanna seek attention and take precations when committing suicide to make sure it's not fatal. -
Is there a term for people who coaxed themselves out of suicide?
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Your generalisation disgusts me.Originally posted by matrixeg:if someone really wants to kill himself, there is no stopping him.
those so called "depressed suicidal teens" are all fakers. they just wanna seek attention and take precations when committing suicide to make sure it's not fatal.
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dun cry. get over it.
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There ARE people who are suicidal and will in a way seek help as a final straw. It's not true that there's no way to stop a person when that person is determine to seek death. No one will commit suicide for no reasons. For a person to be able to seek death successfully the blame should fall in the livings, the people around that person. How observant you are towards your friend's behaviour? Will you notice if he/she has a sudden change in character or habit?Originally posted by matrixeg:if someone really wants to kill himself, there is no stopping him.
those so called "depressed suicidal teens" are all fakers. they just wanna seek attention and take precations when committing suicide to make sure it's not fatal.
Of course I won't deny that there are people who cry out loud and threatens to commit suicide to get attention or to get what they want others to do for them. These I call them "Fake Suiciders". A person who are determine to die mostly won't make a threat.
Actually, I really do admire those who commit suicide by jumping down a building although I don't agree to committing suicide but neither will I deny that one day I might have that thought too and carry it out silently.
For years, I've been struggling with the death devil. There are times when my will to live is so low than it ever come cross my mind to end it all. I didn't even bother to write a suicide note cause there seemed nothing much left to say to the people around me. The only thing that keeps pushing myself back from death is my mum. I can't do that to her. I can't bear to see her losing the child she has for so many years just because I can't cope with life. -
ask them:
1)what is your name?
2)what is the time now?
Was taught in my psych module in nie.
If they can't answer, then it is very dangerous already. Need IMMEDIATE HELP.
Reason:
these two questions are very simple. If someone could not answer them, that means the person had lost his "self". Life become meaningless for them.
If they can answer, still must do something, but it is not so urgent.
As long as someone mentioned suicide, must do something. -
~Pats laosu's head...~ "Enter darkness, and you'll never see the light ahead..."Originally posted by laosu:There ARE people who are suicidal and will in a way seek help as a final straw. It's not true that there's no way to stop a person when that person is determine to seek death. No one will commit suicide for no reasons. For a person to be able to seek death successfully the blame should fall in the livings, the people around that person. How observant you are towards your friend's behaviour? Will you notice if he/she has a sudden change in character or habit?
Of course I won't deny that there are people who cry out loud and threatens to commit suicide to get attention or to get what they want others to do for them. These I call them "Fake Suiciders". A person who are determine to die mostly won't make a threat.
Actually, I really do admire those who commit suicide by jumping down a building although I don't agree to committing suicide but neither will I deny that one day I might have that thought too and carry it out silently.
For years, I've been struggling with the death devil. There are times when my will to live is so low than it ever come cross my mind to end it all. I didn't even bother to write a suicide note cause there seemed nothing much left to say to the people around me. The only thing that keeps pushing myself back from death is my mum. I can't do that to her. I can't bear to see her losing the child she has for so many years just because I can't cope with life.
MERRY X'MAS... -
Originally posted by Devil1976:
Sometimes it's just much easier in darkness. One thing that always lure me from darkness is that I don't have to see anything I don't want to see cause you can't see anything in darkness.
~Pats laosu's head...~ "Enter [b]darkness, and you'll never see the light ahead..."
MERRY X'MAS... [/b]
The only reason I'm still alive now is because I still can feel. The only reason why people can successfully end their life is because they could no longer feel anything. No happiness, no sadness, nothing at all.
Maybe it's just a matter of time I'll reach that stage but as long as I can feel, I'll try to fight on. -
The saddest part is usually those who wld rely kill themselves do not send any signals to ppl ard them... they are usually introvert, nice ppl in the eyes of others... they wld harbour all their sorrow within themselves & the burden snowballs to a point of no return
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Devil, rem Ged or DP said something about people being suicidal?
One of them was being prepared for everything and plan everything already. Things you would procrastinate, they plan swee swee already, either for their family members or friends or whatever. Bills settled, wills prepared, or planning how much money their loved ones will get for higher education etc etc -
ya im gg to opt for DPS and get a nomination done by next week. Insurance also bought liao..Originally posted by laurence82:Devil, rem Ged or DP said something about people being suicidal?
One of them was being prepared for everything and plan everything already. Things you would procrastinate, they plan swee swee already, either for their family members or friends or whatever. Bills settled, wills prepared, or planning how much money their loved ones will get for higher education etc etc
I settled my bills, packed all my things nice nice liao..
so am i gg to kill myself soon? -
Its one of the telling sign larOriginally posted by browniebaobao:ya im gg to opt for DPS and get a nomination done by next week. Insurance also bought liao..
I settled my bills, packed all my things nice nice liao..
so am i gg to kill myself soon?
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dun act cute la.Originally posted by laurence82:Its one of the telling sign lar
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I'm not so stupid liao.. suicide was always on my mind.. but not now anymore.