Afraid of the Army.
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aiyah pple want the best for themselves mah. dun be mad at himOriginally posted by mhcampboy:I think you will be the kind of person who likes to choa keng later in the army.
good for you. wish you best of luck.
you already irk me. dunno why...
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one advice to threadstarter, the more u wanna chao keng, the more u will kena siong vocations.. dun ask me y.. i have seen a lot of cases like u...
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what is chao keng? I can go apply to be in obese people or not.
at least got ppl same with me mah not so malu. haha -
To the threadstarter:
I have flat foot + heart murmur + elevated blood pressure + acute tinnitus + astigmatism. And I'm PES B.
Type all those terms in Google if you have no idea what they mean.
Just because you're flat-footed and asthmatic does not mean that you will be instantly downgraded to a lower PES status. It also has to do with the degree of your medical condition. If your medical condition isn't all that bad, then you will be considered combat-fit. Personally, my own flat foot didn't hinder my normal physical activities; I just can't stand straight for extended periods of time. As it stands, PES B means that they won't post you to the ultra-siong vocations.
You're going to be in the army; live with it. Finding ways and means to weasel your way out of the training and regimentation. Otherwise, I can tell you that you will always have a negative view of the army, and the Pygmalion Effect will come into play.
'What is the Pygmalion Effect?' you may ask. It is when something bad happens because you think it will happen. Since you keep thinking that you should try to weasel your way out of the army, you will never have a good army experience.
You should instead be learning more on how to cope with it both mentally and physically. -
Believe me, u dun want obese BMT, ppl like u want to downgrade, complain and whine can forsee do 3mths already buay tahan liao, u still want a 5 mth obese BMT ah.Originally posted by DarkMatter:thats unfair. If i enter normal company, how will I cope with everyone else. not mentioning about running and excercising. I haven been excercising since ... sec 2? man... its gonna be hell.
I'm sure there's way to get downgraded right? I heard from my friends, they say its easy. -
that means I got no chance to get pes C la? Den I think I wan do 3 mths instead. faster finish more song. people say finish bmt will be more relax? Am i correct?Originally posted by octega:Believe me, u dun want obese BMT, ppl like u want to downgrade, complain and whine can forsee do 3mths already buay tahan liao, u still want a 5 mth obese BMT ah. -
BMT more relaxed...?Originally posted by DarkMatter:that means I got no chance to get pes C la? Den I think I wan do 3 mths instead. faster finish more song. people say finish bmt will be more relax? Am i correct?
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Maybe you like to get more information from this forum?
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depends where you are posted to.Originally posted by DarkMatter:that means I got no chance to get pes C la? Den I think I wan do 3 mths instead. faster finish more song. people say finish bmt will be more relax? Am i correct?
but if you get combat role,confirm 100% that BMT will look like chicken feet compared to the chiong sua role you will get later,but at the same time,you will also get abit more freedom compared to BMT time.
And now army is extremely good life already,still want to be chao keng..... good luck with that attitude esp if you kenna tough vocation
and btw there is nothing wrong with being obese.....you think just so that you do not deserved to be scolded or something for being the last in the company in training then the other less fit bmt mate deserve it? Maybe when you are inside,you will learn what is one for all,all for one.If you think that just because you are better than some others and will not be punished cos of it,you will find yourself so fricking wrong.
And i can tell you with your kind of attitude even if other people may not be as fit as you initially but if they have the right attitude,you will still end up as the sore loser in training in the end since you view that you cannot get better already while the others are all improving and going pass you,so continue to think like that,you will only end up being the loser in the end -
I am willing to pay the price. See me.Originally posted by mhcampboy:Ahh... the myths of the army. Just because you got flatfoot or asthma doesnt mean you can escape army.
There is no way you can get downgraded except you break your bones, cut off your dick or kill someone and enter prison for the rest of your life.
no you wont go to a obese company. -
act gay , cuz it seriously works.
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must be very convincing lor, they will send you to psychologist and all that. then certify gay then become clerk. hur hur.Originally posted by gLc:act gay , cuz it seriously works. -
Way i see it,you can enlist and then request to have your BMI retaken. A guy in my coy did that and he got posted out to be a driver until he can be recoursed.I think he will recourse somewhere near his ORD date.
Anyway dont be scared man.Personally i was too. well more nervous actually.When i got in there...well the 1st 2weeks of it was hell. got me really down and depressed. But then somewhere along the line i actually started enjoying it.You will do things you never thought possible.When i enlisted i did 20 pushes max. Now i'm doing 100 no problems. my 2.4 timing was 14mins...it was 12 before i got injured. Life is not easy in there i'll tell you that. But it's actually quite fun.
Go in there with and open mind. It will be days u will never forget.It will make you a better person.
Give it a shot....who knows you might actually like it man. -
i only have this to say:
don't ah gua la... -
dun worry lah..
i'm enlisting on 6 Oct.. -
BMT is the easiest thing to do in the army la.....i'd rather be a recruit than being my current appointment......at least i dun need to think so much
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i oso asthma la... confirm more serious than u
i copin better n better each day... no problem 1 la... if u everyday exercise sure can 1... u dun wan 2 b able to recover from ur asthma meh?
but den u go sch 2... all i can say is good luck 2 u -
You seems to have the same problem as my brother. He have flat foot and asthma but he got Pes B too. The only different is that he is going for his national service at age 17 and he will join you on the same day too.Originally posted by DarkMatter:I'm enlisting in the 8th of september BMTC school 2. I just finish ITE and I think its too soon for me to enter army. I was delcare PES B eventhough I Have flat foot and history of asthma.
Is there any way I can get downgraded or best of all excuse from army?
another problem is I have my ht and wt measure last year in CMPB it was not obese. But recently I think I gain another 10+kg. will I be in the obese batch in BMT?
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If cmpb gave you pes B then you must be really fit. So you can forget about downgrading. Your problem is not your health but your mind. You are worry about the siong life of army.Originally posted by DarkMatter:thats unfair. If i enter normal company, how will I cope with everyone else. not mentioning about running and excercising. I haven been excercising since ... sec 2? man... its gonna be hell.
I'm sure there's way to get downgraded right? I heard from my friends, they say its easy. -
Why is it unfair? U yourself didn't bother 2 train for the army at all, of course u are not going to keep up with the rest.Originally posted by DarkMatter:thats unfair. If i enter normal company, how will I cope with everyone else. not mentioning about running and excercising. I haven been excercising since ... sec 2? man... its gonna be hell.
I'm sure there's way to get downgraded right? I heard from my friends, they say its easy.
And pls, 90% of guys have gone through 2 1/2 years(previously) to 2 years of hell and TAKE IT AS A MAN. From this post, i can easily say that u are the person who will take the easy way out. Life, my friend is never a bed of roses. Welcome to the REAL WORLD. -
Once an ah gua always an ah gua la...why bother he wont change
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cb...havent go inside already thinking of ways to chao keng...don't u think it would be better to do something inside you can be proud of?
Let me put it this way. When a hot pretty chick you just met in a club asks you what are you doing in the army, would you rather say you're a combatant, or go "oh, i'm a clerk/driver/jia liao bee" (NO OFFENCE TO DRIVERS AND CLERKS, i know the pen is mightier than the sword) which do think turns the chick on more?
So, up to you. If you're really medically unfit, then you cannot blame anyone. I've some friends who are really into the combat stuff, but unfortunately due to their medical status they are relegated to administrative vocations. My advice to you is to participate in every activity you can, but sound off when ur condition is hampering you. Don't use your physical condition as an excuse to skive, which i can already forsee you doing. -
aiya so easy...the first time u receive ur rifles (wif live bullets inside of course), SPRAY it at your mates and commando...den u can enter jail and escape army liao loh
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I'm already an ah gua.Originally posted by R3SsH|n:i only have this to say:
don't ah gua la... -
if you have severe flat foot, i.e. that bone which's supposed to keep your foot arched (forgot the name) totally collapsed, you'll be able to obtain a lower PES grading.
but the way i see it, yours probably isn't that serious. so chill and serve the 2 years, i'm 6 months to freedom hah!