Studying in Melbourne
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ah.... you must not do a lot of torrenting.Originally posted by Gedanken:Truth be told, I'm not too fussed about the difference between ADSL and ADSL2. My office runs on ADSL2, and I can't see all that much difference. The one thing that would get me to make a switch would be price, and getting away from bloody Telstra altogether.
it's kindda cool watching stuff download at 1 *megabyte*/second. of course, that only applies to high bandwidth sites/good seeds. -
Uhh, dunno about cattle and sheep, man - there's a drought happening.Originally posted by nomood:the advantage of being the main anchor tenant is that you can adjust the rent accordingly in your favour. you also get to choose the place. I did that because i also furnished the place. i'm the fair kindda guy.
of course, i rented it out to a classmate whom i trust. anyway it's not easy to do a runner because of furniture; + the smart ones usually will ask to photocopy passport and student visa.
naturally, i would advise that anybody who isn't street smart enough to pull that off; and go with the sub-rent it from others route instead.
and... really... having stayed in both places (vic for 4 years) i can only conclude that victoria is only good enough for raising cattles and sheeps! it's so...
backwards.
most friends who have moved agree that they can never imagine turning back to vic.
Well, we obviously move in different circles, dude. I've got absolutely no trouble finding something to do any given night of the week, although I suppose I've wound down a bit since I got engaged. In any case, it's horses for courses, I suppose, and the Sydney vs Melbourne thing is older than both of us put together.
The passport and student visa thing isn't going to be of much use. Even if you can find the runner, you don't have a leg to stand on legally if you want to make a claim from him, simply because there's no documentation to show that he was responsible for part of the bill. Not that I'm a lawyer, but I've had to deal with enough situations to know that if it's not in black and white, you're screwed legally. -
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!Originally posted by nomood:ah.... you must not do a lot of torrenting.
Anyway, I haven't done any torrenting in a long time - these days it's mainly forumming, and I don't really need high speed for that. -
the residential and tenancy act would cover that, where it states all parties are liable for the costs incurred at residence unless otherwise agreed contractually.Originally posted by Gedanken:Uhh, dunno about cattle and sheep, man - there's a drought happening.
Well, we obviously move in different circles, dude. I've got absolutely no trouble finding something to do any given night of the week, although I suppose I've wound down a bit since I got engaged. In any case, it's horses for courses, I suppose, and the Sydney vs Melbourne thing is older than both of us put together.
The passport and student visa thing isn't going to be of much use. Even if you can find the runner, you don't have a leg to stand on legally if you want to make a claim from him, simply because there's no documentation to show that he was responsible for part of the bill. Not that I'm a lawyer, but I've had to deal with enough situations to know that if it's not in black and white, you're screwed legally.
though of course, the copy i read was the NSW act. but i'd expect VIC to be similar.
the only situation i foresee is if the runner runs back to their native country. thus, the endgame strategy is quite important; not for the weak hearted.
irregardless you can still make a police report and give the person trouble if he returns to the country or makes a PR application.
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i don't have any problems with vic. in fact, it's probably easier to move around vic. NSW has no lygon streets or anything equivalent.
But NSW feels that much more like a city. simply put, it's more happening.
victoria is more like, i dunno, a pleasant place to retire into?
edit: hey, you mentiond you've' been there done that'. so what happened in your case?
also, if that dude is studying he'll probably *want* (not need) adsl2+ to burn away all those extra time... -
Ah - "incurred at residence". Therein lies the problem. If it's not in black and white, the residence condition may not necessarily apply in a court of law. You do realise that if a person's name is on the lease but his name isn't on the phone bill, it doesn't count if he doesn't pay the phone bill? I've got $650 to prove that one.Originally posted by nomood:the residential and tenancy act would cover that, where it states all parties are liable for the costs incurred at residence unless otherwise agreed contractually.
though of course, the copy i read was the NSW act. but i'd expect VIC to be similar.
the only situation i foresee is if the runner runs back to their native country. thus, the endgame strategy is quite important; not for the weak hearted.
irregardless you can still make a police report and give the person trouble if he returns to the country or makes a PR application.
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i don't have any problems with vic. in fact, it's probably easier to move around vic. NSW has no lygon streets or anything equivalent.
But NSW feels that much more like a city. simply put, it's more happening. victoria is more like, i dunno, a pleasant place to retire into?
I'm sticking on this point because the threadstarter is obviously new at this and needs to know the pitfalls. In light of that, the simplest rule is the best:
"If it involves money, whoever has a part of the deal MUST have their name on the contract".
As for Vic being slower than NSW, well, again it a case of the circles we move in. Business-wise, the last time I checked Vic was still the only Australian state with a AAA rating, and it hasn't done us any harm.
If you're talking about the clubbing scene, maybe you're right about NSW having the edge. I was never much of the clubbing sort to start with, so it's no biggie for me.
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ah, phone bills. I believe if you have a record of what happened, and you are able to contact the runner, you can sue in VCAT. Of course, do so only if you are confident you are able to claim back both the money and the legal costs. eg: phone numbers dialled and charges incurred.Originally posted by Gedanken:Ah - "incurred at residence". Therein lies the problem. If it's not in black and white, the residence condition may not necessarily apply in a court of law. You do realise that if a person's name is on the lease but his name isn't on the phone bill, it doesn't count if he doesn't pay the phone bill? I've got $650 to prove that one.
I'm sticking on this point because the threadstarter is obviously new at this and needs to know the pitfalls. In light of that, the simplest rule is the best:
"If it involves money, whoever has a part of the deal MUST have their name on the contract".
the statute is clear; it matters not whose name it is under as long as it is a cost incurred at the residence. he would at least be responsible for at least part of the bill. there's a difference between paying $1 and not paying at all. his only defense would be "there was a prior verbal agreement" which he would then have to prove. your proof would more then likely be that he has been paying regularly prior to that.
the NSW equivalent for lodging a case is approximately $3000 aud. not sure about vic. if you think you have a strong case, litigation is not necessarily as complicated as you might think. a qualified lawyer would advise you better on that.
Otherwise, make a police report. I'm not sure about the limitation period for reclaiming small sums of money with regards to the residential and tenancy act, but if it's less then 3 years you'd probably still be able to take legal actions.
anyway, yes, it's probably best for him to keep it simple. a written contract never ever hurts anyone either UNLESS poorly or ambiguosly worded. -
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Hmm - you could well be right. This happened 12 years ago when I was a first-year undergrad, and back then I was absolutely stuffed. In any case, these days, something like that isn't anything to lose sleep over anymore, and I've got a lawyer who takes care of things for me. I'll have to ask him about that one just out of curiosity.Originally posted by nomood:ah, phone bills. I believe if you have a record of what happened, and you are able to contact the runner, you can sue in VCAT. Of course, do so only if you are confident you are able to claim back both the money and the legal costs. eg: phone numbers dialled and charges incurred.
the statute is clear; it matters not whose name it is under as long as it is a cost incurred at the residence. he would at least be responsible for at least part of the bill. there's a difference between paying $1 and not paying at all. his only defense would be "there was a prior verbal agreement" which he would then have to prove. your proof would more then likely be that he has been paying regularly prior to that.
the NSW equivalent for lodging a case is approximately $3000 aud. not sure about vic. if you think you have a strong case, litigation is not necessarily as complicated as you might think. a qualified lawyer would advise you better on that.
Otherwise, make a police report. I'm not sure about the limitation period for reclaiming small sums of money with regards to the residential and tenancy act, but if it's less then 3 years you'd probably still be able to take legal actions.
anyway, yes, it's probably best for him to keep it simple. a written contract never ever hurts anyone either UNLESS poorly or ambiguosly worded. -
Hi Ged,
So North Melb is pretty alright from what i read? So the streets or surrounding neighbourhoods in North Melbourne is generally ok? Alot of you are probably curious why i shelved the idea of staying in the International Hall Residence as i do not wish to be affected too much by hall activities as i heard there could be a number of them. I really wish to just focus my attention more on my studies and not be distracted. Also, i understand once vacation comes i wuld have to vacate my hall and take up residence again only when semester starts. I may want to stay on to work and earn some money during the holidays. I have chekced college square and min. lease is 1 year. And in the event that i have found a better option, i would have to pay a penalty of $300 and the rent till the unit is rented out to a new tenant. That would be really costly.
So, do you think it's alright to rent over the internet so i have a place to stay when time comes? Im studying commerce in Melb Uni btw. Im really trying to cut down costs as much as possible. Why i would prefer to stay alone is also i do not want to share my apartment with people who are inconsiderate and their weird habits, later coming into a dispute and all. Very messy la. Though its cheaper but human relations can be complicated. Maybe once i have settled down there and know the person better then probably i may share the place. -
Originally posted by Gedanken:SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Anyway, I haven't done any torrenting in a long time - these days it's mainly forumming, and I don't really need high speed for that.
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I would recommend against renting over the Internet. The photos usually don't give you a good idea of what the place is really like, and you'll need to check out the neighbourhood personally - the last thing you want to do is rent the place and get stuck with noisy neighbours. I would suggest that you get temporary accommodations in early February at the latest, and then personally check out potential places to rent.Originally posted by Insightist:Hi Ged,
So North Melb is pretty alright from what i read? So the streets or surrounding neighbourhoods in North Melbourne is generally ok? Alot of you are probably curious why i shelved the idea of staying in the International Hall Residence as i do not wish to be affected too much by hall activities as i heard there could be a number of them. I really wish to just focus my attention more on my studies and not be distracted. Also, i understand once vacation comes i wuld have to vacate my hall and take up residence again only when semester starts. I may want to stay on to work and earn some money during the holidays. I have chekced college square and min. lease is 1 year. And in the event that i have found a better option, i would have to pay a penalty of $300 and the rent till the unit is rented out to a new tenant. That would be really costly.
So, do you think it's alright to rent over the internet so i have a place to stay when time comes? Im studying commerce in Melb Uni btw. Im really trying to cut down costs as much as possible. Why i would prefer to stay alone is also i do not want to share my apartment with people who are inconsiderate and their weird habits, later coming into a dispute and all. Very messy la. Though its cheaper but human relations can be complicated. Maybe once i have settled down there and know the person better then probably i may share the place.
Right now I would suggest that you just do your research on the net to get a feel of what prices are like. In the meantime, get your paperwork together! You will need a statement from the bank - it doesn't have to show figures, but it must include a statement to the effect that you (or whoever's backing you) have definitely got enough cash to cover the rent for the duration of your stay. Basically, any documentation that shows that you're a good bet for your landlord will work in your favour.
Brunswick and Coburg are all right neighbourhoods, although I personally prefer Brunswick - it's slightly closer to Melbourne Uni.
You've definitely made the right choice in avoiding the halls. if you want to get serious about your work, you don't need the distraction of having a couple of hundred students around you.
Commerce, huh? AXA and Members' Equity bank are my clients - if you're looking for somewhere to do placements I may be able to help you out. PM me for contact details and I'll see what I can do to help when you get here. -
sigh.Originally posted by Gedanken:Commerce, huh? AXA and Members' Equity bank are my clients - if you're looking for somewhere to do placements I may be able to help you out. PM me for contact details and I'll see what I can do to help when you get here.
i want contacts too... -
What field are you in, nomood?Originally posted by nomood:sigh.
i want contacts too... -
oh hello people, ged long time no see.
melbourne? unfair! -
Hey thinger, where have you been?
The door's open in Melbourne as long as your skills match the occupations-in-demand list - pop on over! -
I don't think my skills will ever be in the high demand list.Originally posted by Gedanken:Hey thinger, where have you been? The door's open in Melbourne as long as your skills match the occupations-in-demand list - pop on over!
But I'm not the expert about such stuff there. -
yeah i was checking that list
accountant and internet security professional were on the list if im not wrong...but i graduate end 2007. =p.
i love melbourne, brisbanes such a shithole.
hows jaime's fifteen? -
heres the september list
Anaesthetist
Ophthalmologist
Civil Engineer
Paediatrician
Computing Professional - specialising in CISSP
Pathologist
Computing Professional - specialising in E-commerce Security (non-programming)
Petroleum Engineer
Computing Professional - specialising in Network Security
Physiotherapist
Computing Professional - specialising in SAP
Podiatrist
Computing Professional - specialising in SIEBEL
Psychiatrist
Dental Specialist
Radiation Therapist
Dentist
Radiologist
Dermatologist
Registered Mental Health Nurse
Emergency Medicine Specialist
Registered Midwife
General Medical Practitioner
Registered Nurse
Hospital Pharmacist
Retail Pharmacist
Medical Diagnostic Radiographer
Specialist Medical Practitioners (not elsewhere classified)
Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum)
Specialist Physician
Nuclear Medicine Technologist
Speech Pathologist
Obstetrician and Gynaecologist
Sonographer
Occupational Therapist
Surgeon -
architecture...Originally posted by Gedanken:What field are you in, nomood?
will be graduating next mid year. which field are you in ged? -
Don't tempt me...Originally posted by thinger:heres the september list
Anaesthetist
Ophthalmologist
Civil Engineer
Paediatrician
Computing Professional - specialising in CISSP
Pathologist
Computing Professional - specialising in E-commerce Security (non-programming)
Petroleum Engineer
Computing Professional - specialising in Network Security
Physiotherapist
Computing Professional - specialising in SAP
Podiatrist
Computing Professional - specialising in SIEBEL
Psychiatrist
Dental Specialist
Radiation Therapist
Dentist
Radiologist
Dermatologist
Registered Mental Health Nurse
Emergency Medicine Specialist
Registered Midwife
General Medical Practitioner
Registered Nurse
Hospital Pharmacist
Retail Pharmacist
Medical Diagnostic Radiographer
Specialist Medical Practitioners (not elsewhere classified)
Mining Engineer (excluding Petroleum)
Specialist Physician
Nuclear Medicine Technologist
Speech Pathologist
Obstetrician and Gynaecologist
Sonographer
Occupational Therapist
Surgeon
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Hmm - I used to share a house with German architect, and I know a couple of draughtsmen, but my contacts there are pretty thin.Originally posted by nomood:architecture...
will be graduating next mid year. which field are you in ged?
I'm an organisational psychologist, by the way. -
no wonder you spout so much crap.Originally posted by Gedanken:I'm an organisational psychologist, by the way. -
And I get paid reasonably well for it too - this world just ain't fair, I'm tellin' ya.Originally posted by thinger:no wonder you spout so much crap.
By the way, I haven't gotten round to dropping by at Fifteen yet. I'm waiting for the hubbub to die down becaue I hate crowds. -
gawddamn...
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huh wat 15?Originally posted by Gedanken:And I get paid reasonably well for it too - this world just ain't fair, I'm tellin' ya.
By the way, I haven't gotten round to dropping by at Fifteen yet. I'm waiting for the hubbub to die down becaue I hate crowds.
oh yes when is melbourne cup huh? i might drive down for the sake of it.
funnily enough the few years i spent in melboure never inspired me to go for it. then *now* when i'm in nsw i wanna go.