Agonising to see my colleagues get conned
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Play this to your colleague:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igq07TvG-5E
Then tell him, you won't argue against his MLM company if he is willing to pay for any lost finances of his downlines while in this company. -
today i attended a MLM business seminar the company called M way they said until like heaven chance like that somemore any idiot can do it
and within 1 year u can earn $5000 per month and half a millon per year -
some lessons in life can only be learnt the hard way .....Originally posted by kopiosatu:There is a high level MLMer in my workplace. Drives a BMW.
Because of that he gets every bunch of new guys to join easily. Thus enabling him to purchase bigger cars.
What hurts is me seeing some of my colleagues getting brainwashed and adding to his car payment.
Today he even suan the guys for waiting for the year end bonus every time. That hit pretty deep for the rest of the guys. He was sking them to join him and they will get a car in a years' time. He even commented "how many cars must i change before you guys join me?"
I have nothing against MLM, in fact i personally think that the system is good but ruined by singaporeans. I've seen some of my colleagues follow blindly and try to convince ME that the product is good.
Those around me who used to follow him have been pretty much pulled away by me. Today I had no answer for that bonus comment, because the rest of the guys ARE waiting for the year end bonus.
For those who are wondering, I'm not affected by his comments because like him, I do have something outside on my own. Just that MLM has become such a con job now, i don't like the fact that the rest who join are helping him more than themselves.
I personally knew of chaps in the navy who signed on under the poly scheme and got sucked in by one of the pioneers in this scam, NOP ... they'll keng and twang etc to get as many nights off and days off as they can so they can dress up in a tie and go around calling on friends to join them ... people like the idea of swaggering around in shirt and tie and being (or at least pretending to be) successful ...
after that scam went bust they meekly got back to normal navy life anyways ... but not before loosing a ton of money from their own pockets and friends who won't even pick up the phones when they call (a'right, I'm one of those ex-friends, I can't help thinking that they're after something in my pocket when they call) ......
you'll just have to wait things out ... there are only so many suckers the scammers can con before they run out of suckers ... -
Hey bro, don't go.Originally posted by ghimpheng:today i attended a MLM business seminar the company called M way they said until like heaven chance like that somemore any idiot can do it
and within 1 year u can earn $5000 per month and half a millon per year
i was once approached by this man before who told we he was into businesses and will like to discuss and give me more details. I met up a few times with him and realised that it was all the same old MLM crap. MLM only works if you are at the top of the chain. If not, you will probably spend 10years of your life to find 10 people to be 'under' you. After i rejected him and told him that his Amway and MLM thingy doesnt excite me at all, he transformed into a smooth-talking guy into a pathetic salesman asking me to buy all kinds of Amway products like vitamins, shampoos, etc...
This shows the they are just trying to paint you a nice picture, it is definitely not that sweet. The same goes for the insurance and property industry. Sure you will see these associate managers and other high flyers that earn 20-30k a month. But for every success story, i gurantee at least 50 people had tried and failed.
If earning 5k is so simple, do you think there will be any needy people left in Singapore?? -
why not tell something more related to them...Originally posted by kopiosatu:i get difficulty trying to explain to them its a scam.
yet they are fed information like the stuff is certified by NUS, and ISO and Direct Selling Association.
that would make it a legal scam eh?
e.g. The organisation also get lots of awards for safety, iso and etc, but do you really feel that it is really in our job? Do you do lots of cover up and touch up to achieved them. Then what makes you so sure that MLM being certified by whomever is not a scam? You so sure it is not cover/touch up job?
And if he is so successful, why till now he have not buy himself out of his contract? -
MLM sucks...my mother got conned...
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ngao mm yiam soi mm karm tark ngao towl tai (you cant force a cow to drink if it does not want to)
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because he has his NS liability to serve?Originally posted by Twincat:why not tell something more related to them...
e.g. The organisation also get lots of awards for safety, iso and etc, but do you really feel that it is really in our job? Do you do lots of cover up and touch up to achieved them. Then what makes you so sure that MLM being certified by whomever is not a scam? You so sure it is not cover/touch up job?
And if he is so successful, why till now he have not buy himself out of his contract?
anyway if any of them talks to me about this, i have to educate them a little bit more about DSAS and ISO.
are u still doing videography? i got tamade alot of lobangs leh. pm me if u still do it hor. -
My mother is in a MLM.
I've been thru most MLM becos of her.
Right now. I am still a Supervisor while my mother is managerial level with a certain MLM.
There is some MLM which arent all bad. But there are those which will not stand up to certain right comments if you know how to answer back. -
if MLM was that good why not all quit their job and do MLM full time ?
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Breaking a contract is a mere 50k right?Originally posted by ghimpheng:if MLM was that good why not all quit their job and do MLM full time ?
He can afford a BMW but cannot afford to break the contract?
No...he wont break his contract. Because he needs the contacts from the contract to sustain his BMW maintenance.
BTW, I've jsut checked with someone. Balatantly displaying his wealth from MLM work or inciting his collegues to join MLM can get him seriously disciplined. Would you like me to help invoke such an action against that guy? -
nvm i did not get conned anyway but i think alot of pple are going to get conOriginally posted by viciouskitty74:Breaking a contract is a mere 50k right?
He can afford a BMW but cannot afford to break the contract?
No...he wont break his contract. Because he needs the contacts from the contract to sustain his BMW maintenance.
BTW, I've jsut checked with someone. Balatantly displaying his wealth from MLM work or inciting his collegues to join MLM can get him seriously disciplined. Would you like me to help invoke such an action against that guy? -
Depending if his company has a disciplinary committee and if showing off is not appropriate. I know only very few companies even have disciplinary committees.Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Breaking a contract is a mere 50k right?
He can afford a BMW but cannot afford to break the contract?
No...he wont break his contract. Because he needs the contacts from the contract to sustain his BMW maintenance.
BTW, I've jsut checked with someone. Balatantly displaying his wealth from MLM work or inciting his collegues to join MLM can get him seriously disciplined. Would you like me to help invoke such an action against that guy?
Btw, blatantly displaying his wealth from MLM work or inciting his collegues to join MLM can get him seriously disciplined? first time i heard of such rule....
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well he can't pay for his NS liability.
anyway, i rather see the whole company close down than to see him prosecuted.
because this company is rather notorious already.
i said before, i'm not against MLM companies. some do decent business, most don't. -
i've never heard of this rule before too.Originally posted by laurence82:Btw, blatantly displaying his wealth from MLM work or inciting his collegues to join MLM can get him seriously disciplined? first time i heard of such rule....
because u have to display your wealth so that people will be tempted to join. -
Its a dog eat dog world. Who wants to be dogfood..
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Originally posted by kopiosatu:
Its the same rule as you are employed with one company, you are not to do part time work. Once caught, you can be sacked.
i've never heard of this rule before too.
If he was serving his NS. He is not to be caught doing part time work that can generate income. In his case, it was the commission he is getting. As long as there is a paper trial like bank transactions....or unless he was drawing only cash then its harder to prove unless the mlm organisation rat him out.
If he is on contract, it would be the same as a employment contract. How about digging out your own contract to look thru it and advise us whether such a rule existed. -
You do have to declare if you have a business outside in your name or possible investments returns every year?Originally posted by viciouskitty74:Its the same rule as you are employed with one company, you are not to do part time work. Once caught, you can be sacked.
If he was serving his NS. He is not to be caught doing part time work that can generate income. In his case, it was the commission he is getting. As long as there is a paper trial like bank transactions....or unless he was drawing only cash then its harder to prove unless the mlm organisation rat him out.
If he is on contract, it would be the same as a employment contract. How about digging out your own contract to look thru it and advise us whether such a rule existed.
He would have to declare also, or he could be found to be lying/cheating the orgainisation. -
oh there is the moonlighting rule
but they protect themselves by registering under the next-of-kin's name. -
There you have it.Originally posted by kopiosatu:oh there is the moonlighting rule
but they protect themselves by registering under the next-of-kin's name.
Can just say it point blank: Join you? My mother/sister/godsister/galfriend is a member. Why dont I join her? Safest! No politicking by my loved ones on issues of betrayal as compared to join you!
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but, that is from employment part
how about the part abt flaunting his wealth???
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It's just a facade anyway. I've seen some army friends drive some nice sleek cars but I know they earn peanuts. If you earn 1k and put 1k a mth on your car... you can still have some sleek chio cars... but you might live to regret it. Let them do what they want with their money. Sometimes it is part of the job... you need to look sleek in MLM.
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What u can do is only to advise them not to follow him.
However, if they want to follow blindly even tho u already warned them, then i think some ple needs to fall before they learn. -
nowadays, the mlm-ers don like to advertise their companies as mlm, rather they like to use words like "network marketing" or "direct selling" cos mlm has a negative connotation to it...but its juz trying to sound nicer to entice u to join...wat a load of crap...
juz curious,anyone heard of a company called LongFar Int'l? i hv frens who were in Coslab, then switched to LongFar. Really funny. Can jump frm one company to the nxt so easily. then when longfar is saturated, another company will pop up and they jump ship again... -
Originally posted by laurence82:but, that is from employment part
how about the part abt flaunting his wealth??? 
Thats for him to find out...