Undergrad SOS.
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hi all, currently in year 1 of Business Admin.
From wad i heard, if u get a 2nd lower honors and below, it would be equal to a Bachelor in Biz Admin.
But the thing here is it is so hard to get a 2nd upper class. They last sem i tried ( ok put in 80% of effort coz i nv do tutorials) but i onli got a GPA of 3.6, which is a 2nd lower class.
My point here is it is very difficult to get GPA of 4 leh.. In order to average out my last sem score, i would need to score at least a 4.5 this sem. Out of the max score of 5.
So i tired working a lil harder this sem, but i end up feelin super stressed all the time. Everytime i'm out with my frens/parents, i keep tinking to myself "i shld be studying at home now". My frens around me, they sleep at 12, wake up at 530 to study again. So everytime i'm out, i don't really enjoy myself.
But everytime i sit down and study, i'll feel very sian, like this is not wad i want. Coz from pri sch till now, i is the happy go lucky kind, always hun4 over all major exams.
ok i noe i sound abit like a siao lang coz i'm feeling a lil messed up now. Just wan an outlet to ramble.
Is there realli sumthing wrong with my studying methods?
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Studying Hard doest equate to Studying Smart..
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ya i used to thing that i studied quite smartly.. Eg, my A lvls, i onli did TYS at the last minute but unexpectly i scored quite well.Originally posted by Master -_-:Studying Hard doest equate to Studying Smart..
So i always believed study smart = cheong at last min, absorb wad u can and buang during exam.
but aft 1st sem, i kena demoralised. coz the fren who sleeps at 12, wake up at 530 got 4.8. So i kind disbelief in my previous method and try to follow likewise, end up i feel like a pathetic loser, tryna catch up with wad majority of the cohort is doing (ie. sleep less less, play lil study like siao) -
Study of course is impt, but what's the point of studying if u don't understand the concepts, and also give up ur social life?
U should only feel guilty if u don't study, and all u did is eat, drink play and sleep.
Has it ever occurred 2 u that u giving urself 2 much pressure will not ensure u get gd GPA this sem?
Maybe u wanna try out my method. Everyday, after the particular lecture, go home and read up on wat the lecturer has gone through. Do the tutorials. Then if possible, go read a bit on the next chapter. Don't sleep after 1am just 2 study, or even MSN friends. Having sufficient sleep helps, u know. -
NUS?
It's all about taking the right modules and avoiding the super-intelligent FTs. -
biz ad is easy going... try going to Comp Sci or IEEE, then you die.
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u dun have many sems to try a lil harder. if u wanna improve u shld try hardest with all your effort!Originally posted by lifeissian:hi all, currently in year 1 of Business Admin.
From wad i heard, if u get a 2nd lower honors and below, it would be equal to a Bachelor in Biz Admin.
But the thing here is it is so hard to get a 2nd upper class. They last sem i tried ( ok put in 80% of effort coz i nv do tutorials) but i onli got a GPA of 3.6, which is a 2nd lower class.
My point here is it is very difficult to get GPA of 4 leh.. In order to average out my last sem score, i would need to score at least a 4.5 this sem. Out of the max score of 5.
So i tired working a lil harder this sem, but i end up feelin super stressed all the time. Everytime i'm out with my frens/parents, i keep tinking to myself "i shld be studying at home now". My frens around me, they sleep at 12, wake up at 530 to study again. So everytime i'm out, i don't really enjoy myself.
But everytime i sit down and study, i'll feel very sian, like this is not wad i want. Coz from pri sch till now, i is the happy go lucky kind, always hun4 over all major exams.
ok i noe i sound abit like a siao lang coz i'm feeling a lil messed up now. Just wan an outlet to ramble.
Is there realli sumthing wrong with my studying methods?
*sigh*
where got such thing as try a lil harder but not dat hard. stupid idea. -
Some pple perform better when they put less pressure on themselves.....
You are not doing any good telling yourself 2nd Class (Lower) is only as good as a Bachelor's. Instead, I think you should just focus on putting in as best effort in your studies and do as best as possible at all times. Then be happy and accept with whatever results you get........
Even if you do end up with, say, a 3rd Class, you are still so much better than all the others with only PSLE, Os and As and Bachelor's but who are still living pretty satisfying and happy lives.......
You can always pick up your studies to upgrade later when you've oredi started working. So wat's the problem....?
Getting good qualifications is not the be-all-and-end-all......... It gives you a nice headstart but life's a marathon, not a sprint......
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Newsflash, stress comes with when you're working hard to attain ambitious goals.Originally posted by lifeissian:So i tired working a lil harder this sem, but i end up feelin super stressed all the time.
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gulps* tt reminds me that is sumthing i shld cut down also. Ok ty for that point.Originally posted by nanren4ever:Study of course is impt, but what's the point of studying if u don't understand the concepts, and also give up ur social life?
U should only feel guilty if u don't study, and all u did is eat, drink play and sleep.
Has it ever occurred 2 u that u giving urself 2 much pressure will not ensure u get gd GPA this sem?
Maybe u wanna try out my method. Everyday, after the particular lecture, go home and read up on wat the lecturer has gone through. Do the tutorials. Then if possible, go read a bit on the next chapter. Don't sleep after 1am just 2 study, or even MSN friends. Having sufficient sleep helps, u know. -
i said i tried alil harder lar. as in listen during lect all this. i nv said i try alil harder but not tt hard.Originally posted by Ito_^:u dun have many sems to try a lil harder. if u wanna improve u shld try hardest with all your effort!
where got such thing as try a lil harder but not dat hard. stupid idea.
wad is the defination of hardest effort? i'm lost now le. study but no play? -
I'm not sure if I even understand your main concern. So what exactly is your concern? Simply a matter of your results or is there more to it? Is your real concern stemming from what you perceive might be a derisory paycheck should you get 2nd Class (lower) or worse?Originally posted by lifeissian:i said i tried alil harder lar. as in listen during lect all this. i nv said i try alil harder but not tt hard.
wad is the defination of hardest effort? i'm lost now le. study but no play?
Ironically - and I've seen many such examples in my working experience - the problem with many Asian students(as in those schooled in an Asian education system, not referring to Asians by ethnicity/nationality) stem from the fact that they're overly preoccupied with their academic results without actually knowing what they want in life/work and more importantly, how to go about realising their goals. While I was studying in the US, many of my peers would take the initiative on their own accord to source for their own internships in the summer and at times convenient for them to help them lay the foundations for the careers they have in mind. Needless to say, I've also seen tonnes of people with various priorities and attitudes towards academics - while some would do their darndest to cram in a Masters in 4 years, there're others who would quite happily settle for a Bachelor's. Being quite honest, I don't think many of my friends whom I attended college with are doing badly now (even those with just a Bachelor's), the fact our college being a reputable one notwithstanding.
So really, at the end of the day, if it's your job prospects you're concerned with, you should try to do something about it beyond your curriculum (I'm not saying academics ain't important, but it just isn't everything) like seeking an internship during your holidays, for instance.
Good luck in your pursuit.
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Read this topic, and seemed like something i've always wanted to tell ppl.
When u r in uni, all u think is aceing the exams and getting the highest grade as possible. But in truth, what u learn in uni is just a fraction of what is needed in the working life. Sure, a good grade gives u a good start, but its not the absolute thing.
Maybe im not the best person to comment, as I've only been working for 7 years. Hopefully ppl with more experience can comment. But for the past few years, i've been conducting many interviews etc, so i wish to share out some experience in it.
When i interview ppl, i dont really look for the absolute best. Instead, i tend to look for those that can fit into the current working team culture and environment. Being the smartest candidate with the best grade doesnt guarantee u a job - instead, u need to appeal to the interviewers' needs. I also look for candidates with a good attitude, pleasant personality, and able to handle pressure well - i usually grill them with tough questions, just to see how they respond, and not really to listen to the answers. Many candidates tend to answer rudely or fumble or be angry - big no no. Dun be rude to the interviewer! ... Once i had a candidate asking me to give him a cup of water before the interview. Hahaha! I should hv just kicked him out of the room immediately.
Another thing i wish to share is that once i got out from my uni (a very very long time ago), i immediately discovered that watever i learned in uni was completely insufficient. Everything was much more advanced, and i had to learn it on the job. Tat's when i realised that the knowledge is not as important as the other soft skills u learn during ur uni days, things like doing extensive research, writing well, problem solving and analysis, etc. ... In fact, the module that contributed the most to me was something totally unrelated to my field of studies, but thought me how to debate issues with others, and form my own viewpoints and defend them.
In other words, dont worry too much abt the grades, and most definately dont concentrate on it until there's nothing else to show off the employer except ur grades! -
THanks to the 2 replies above me, i definately feel much better aft readin ur replies, and that employeers do not merely look at grades.
I'm more of an out going person in JC, but in uni, i stopped most of my activites, just to adhere to wad my frens are doing, (READ: slp 12 wake up 530 to study as she got uber good grades from doing that)
Everytime my fren tell me : " mei you Shi jian le (no time anymore)" den they will cheong home and study, the most scariest case is doing their tuts even aft the lecture has been taught.
I tink i kinda got influence on the way lar.. so i dun even dare to continue my dance classes, even if it's just an hour per week.
I noe i kinda loser to follow what the crowd do, but i am a easy swayed person.
Ok ok, thanks alot da jia. I'll try to go back to play hard and study smart like the past 18 years of my life.
Sorry if my first post sounded alil messed up coz i tink i was feeling quite stressed aft looking at what my frens are doin. -
Biz ad is hard to get 2nd class honours and above? Are you kidding me? Are you even trying hard enough? Try doing the same for say an engineering course. You'll eat your words.
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Heng.. me no go NUS. *pat pat TS*
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Hmm, TS U from NUS ah? How come everyone is saying u frm there? For some weird reason, I was thinking NTU Biz as my gd friend is studying there too..
But regarding ur earlier reply, i must tell u that u should not follow what ur friends do. Your friend wake up 5.30 morning to study, but did it occur 2 u that its because that's probably the best optimal time for HER, and maybe not for u? What's the point of waking up so early 2 study when probably ur mind is not that clear, and most probably not ur own optimal time for studies?
And actually, doing sports and exercises frequently help to keep not only ur body healthy, but also ur mind clear. You giving up on dancing is probably not good. Just devote 2-3 days of 1 hour each of ur time 2 do exercise. NEVER underestimate the importance of exercise. -
my dear ... you're studying for a DEGREE lor ....
if you're not stressed out ... you'd be either a farking genius, or the degree that you get can only lelong 3 for $10, right ? ....
if it's going to be easy to get one ... then everyone would have one liao, right ? .... -
Gackt.Originally posted by Gackt247:Heng.. me no go NUS. *pat pat TS* 
hahah.. dunoe why all of em keep assuming i'm in NUS. I'm in NTU 3 yrs direct hons prog. -
yeps i'n NTU biz. haha. Is ur fren veri stressed over there too?Originally posted by nanren4ever:Hmm, TS U from NUS ah? How come everyone is saying u frm there? For some weird reason, I was thinking NTU Biz as my gd friend is studying there too..
But regarding ur earlier reply, i must tell u that u should not follow what ur friends do. Your friend wake up 5.30 morning to study, but did it occur 2 u that its because that's probably the best optimal time for HER, and maybe not for u? What's the point of waking up so early 2 study when probably ur mind is not that clear, and most probably not ur own optimal time for studies?
And actually, doing sports and exercises frequently help to keep not only ur body healthy, but also ur mind clear. You giving up on dancing is probably not good. Just devote 2-3 days of 1 hour each of ur time 2 do exercise. NEVER underestimate the importance of exercise.
ok i'll be going back to dance class after my exams?
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ok ok so i'm still normal eh?Originally posted by Fatum:my dear ... you're studying for a DEGREE lor ....
if you're not stressed out ... you'd be either a farking genius, or the degree that you get can only lelong 3 for $10, right ? ....
if it's going to be easy to get one ... then everyone would have one liao, right ? ....
I started hearing noises in the nite, dunoe is it coz lately too stressed out( 1 report, 2 projects, 1 presentation, 3 quiz, 2 tests) or sometyhing is reali happening to create the sounds. -
actually ditz, i beg to differ leh.. the difficulty of getting 2nd class hons is dependent on relative positionality. coz u get ur grades according to the bell curve ma.. my biz cohord dis yr all very scary leh.. Ok la in my opinion la k..Originally posted by ditzy:Biz ad is hard to get 2nd class honours and above? Are you kidding me? Are you even trying hard enough? Try doing the same for say an engineering course. You'll eat your words. -
haha.. yeah man.. in uni, being smart is not enuff.. its all about hardwork.. i haf tutorial mates who r definitely smarter than me, they absorb very fast.. but some didn't do as well, cos they didn't study as hard.. i guess intelligence can onli help u to a limited extend, u need hardwork as well.. thomas edison said,"Genius is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration." can't be more true than that.. but don't worry.. since ur smart, u will definitely catch up, juz study hard..
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those pple who tink that its harder to score in engine as compared to biz is so terribly wrong.. it might b true that engine has more modules to clear, u haf 20+ hours of lessons each week.. but EVERYONE in engine goes through the same thing.. in biz, although we haf less than 20hrs of lessons a week and we haf more free time, it means EVERYONE is using the free time to study, and if u do not put in the equal amount of effort, ur gonna lose out. ultimately grades are decided by a bell curve, so no matter which course ur in, it boils down to effort..
also, those who said tt grades ain't everything, i agree, but they are still extremely impt.. look the the banks and GLCs, the minimum requirement is 2nd upper class honours. if u do not achieve that, u r not even given a chance for the interview. so tell me, how r u gonna show these companies that u r gd when u r not even granted an interview? these are facts of life, we just haf to face them. no point deluding and consoling urself that grades ain't impt. in my point of view, just study hard. -
Japanese got a say that if you wake up at 5am in the morning, you are hardworking person.. but I forgot about the sleep time.