The RICH.
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Erm...sometimes the not-well-to-do also have those pressures to perform well, you know. My dad is a teacher (doesnt earn alot, have to say) but people expect me and my sisters to excel like hell too.Originally posted by rmyfrm:And what would those pressures be?
Rich kids always get compared to their successful parents, living in their shadows.
People who have not experienced the tiresome routine of moving from school, to cca, to tuition and then to misc. private cocurricular activities such as piano/ballet/art have no say. It's so easy to be a bystander and go ... wow gee, so lucky to have all that, i can do that too!
Let's see you stay on top of your game, by achieving leadership positions in your CCA, earning grade 8/diploma in piano etc etc. all the while being at the top few percent of your academic level ... in addition to that, having to listen to the derogatory remarks/comments of strangers who have not achieved equal level of success.
Don't forget, the higher you go, the more that is expected of you.
People won't look at a chicken rice seller's son and expect him to rise to any level of greatness, but if he does, praises are heaped upon the fellow (and rightly so).
But people will look at a doctor's son, and expect him to reach a similar level of success, if not surpass his father, or else the poor boy will have to deal with being looked upon as falling into the stereotypical perception of a rich kid.
I think it's difficult if you are NOT well-to-do yet you are stuck in a top sch. (speaking frm experience here). Ppl expect you to perform well and you are stuck with rich kids around you who can't imagine why you can't afford tuition or a maid at home.
Both the not-well-to-do and rich have probs. But I still stick with the fact no matter what, being rich is the lesser of two evils.
And who says the rich can't eat at hawker centres or have friends of a 'lower' class? They can do so, what. It's only their pride and fear of tarnishing the family image that's holding them back
But then again, if they want to do all these things, they still can. *shrugs*
Whereas for the not-so-well-to-do, we cant exactly do the things the rich can, like travel first class etc etc.
Hence, being rich is still the lesser of two evils. -
actually to excel in studies.. depends on the methods to study.. not rich or poor..Originally posted by felirox:Is it true that those born with a silver spoon in their mouths excel in studies? i have friends who are rich and they do really well in studies. and i have frends too who are financially unstable do not excel in studies even though they work hard.
but of cos.. intelligent ppl will take a shorter time to understand.. or those who are not that wise, will take a longer time..
but exceling in studies doesnt mean u are intelligent.. -
So your thinking is that they can do whatever they want but its just their selfish pride and fear of tarnishing family image that is holding them back? Not that threat of being kicked out from the family/being disowned or even death threats to name a few. And rich people dont always fly first class. Some travel economy class and held on to their every single penny with clenched fist, eating bread and water everyday to save on cost.Originally posted by Jerina:Both the not-well-to-do and rich have probs. But I still stick with the fact no matter what, being rich is the lesser of two evils.
And who says the rich can't eat at hawker centres or have friends of a 'lower' class? They can do so, what. It's only their pride and fear of tarnishing the family image that's holding them back But then again, if they want to do all these things, they still can. *shrugs*
Whereas for the not-so-well-to-do, we cant exactly do the things the rich can, like travel first class etc etc.
Hence, being rich is still the lesser of two evils.
I myself think that being not so well to do is the lesser of two evils. Oh well, there you have it; a few points of view. -
i noe of rich ppl who dun do well in their studies and i noe of poor ppl who do..
i feel that rich ppl got lesser pressures on them..
if they dun do well in life, they can rely on family money to set up business or continue the family business..
poor students got a lot of pressure, their parents work so hard to pay for their education so they want to repay them.. if they dun do well in studies, they would let their parents down. they are the ones who can break out of the poor cycle with education.. -
That is a very... weird... statement.Originally posted by WiNtEr'SkiLL:the rich sux -
Woah ho ho ... you are seriously misguided.Originally posted by club18:i noe of rich ppl who dun do well in their studies and i noe of poor ppl who do..
i feel that rich ppl got lesser pressures on them..
if they dun do well in life, they can rely on family money to set up business or continue the family business..
poor students got a lot of pressure, their parents work so hard to pay for their education so they want to repay them.. if they dun do well in studies, they would let their parents down. they are the ones who can break out of the poor cycle with education..
I do believe the majority of us, rich or poor, have our inheritances/trust funds dependant upon various factors, one of which is academic performance; how dumb do you think "rich people" are? I ask that because you seem to make the assumption that they would rather let their offspring squander away their hard earned fortunes than put it to better use.
A Singaporean education is very very very very subsidized. I remember being given an option to do a third language back during my high school days for minimal cost. Further, the government hands out those edusave? edugrant? good student? awards very freely ... In fact ... I think my parents gave me more allowance than they spent on my education
and my allowance wasn't an obscene amount above the norm; it was in line with what my peers received.
Of course at the tertiary level it's different; university is considered the final lap and naturally, you pay to receive the specialised and advanced knowledge that the lecturers/tutors have.
FYI, don't give me that crap about "dui de qi" your parents - that one applies whether you are rich or poor and that has nothing to do with money, but rather the basic morality (filial piety). -
We are only humans
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What I stated was that the rich have more choices in life. They can choose to lead the normal life if they REALLY want to.Originally posted by LyonK:So your thinking is that they can do whatever they want but its just their selfish pride and fear of tarnishing family image that is holding them back? Not that threat of being kicked out from the family/being disowned or even death threats to name a few. And rich people dont always fly first class. Some travel economy class and held on to their every single penny with clenched fist, eating bread and water everyday to save on cost.
I myself think that being not so well to do is the lesser of two evils. Oh well, there you have it; a few points of view.
As for average ppl like us, we have to work RELATIVELY harder (note: RELATIVELY) and we dont have the luxury of choice. We can't live like a millionaire if we want to, whereas millionaires can lead an average life if they choose to.
I think death threats are abit dramatic-lah, huh? Common-sensically speaking
Yup, we have different points of view. -
i guess so, especially when coming from matriarches.Originally posted by Jerina:I think death threats are abit dramatic-lah, huh? Common-sensically speaking
Yup, we have different points of view.
some words cut right down to the soul. -
But why is this in aunt agony?Originally posted by felirox:Is it true that those born with a silver spoon in their mouths excel in studies? i have friends who are rich and they do really well in studies. and i have frends too who are financially unstable do not excel in studies even though they work hard. -
Damn inspiring manOriginally posted by fudgester:Dude, my dad is a Comfort cabbie.
And tuition was a luxury that I couldn't afford.
Let's just face it; life's unfair. You can't have it all.
I know what it's like to have the shorter end of the stick; back in JC I often had to make the harrowing choice between food and lecture notes. End result? I was one of the most underweight people around.
But instead of whining about how sucky things are, I decided to just go and put in the effort.
If I can't afford tuition, so be it; I'll just work harder and more consistently.
If I can't afford a driving licence, so be it; I'll take the MRT to school.
If I can't afford my uni fees, so be it; I can take a loan from Mendaki.
If my parents can't give me a lot of spending money, so be it; I'll give tuition for my basic everyday expenses.
Seriously, I did all of the above. I'm not trying to boast my achievements or anything, and pardon me if it sounded that way.
All I'm saying is, life is unfair, but you can put in the effort to even the stakes a little.
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they do excel .>>
as they are sheltered in life >>
have good friends also >> but if they r drop in some disaSTER S holes >> they cannot even get out by themselves
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Just like what majority of the forumies has said.
The rich already got all the things in place for them. With everything line up for them, they just follow, surely will have better outcome.
Its like everything very conveniently laid out for them.
Just like when driving, you have a clear road in front of you, you can drive straight ahead without obstacles and reach your destination at a shorter time or speed and crash and dun reach your destination.
But if full of obstacles, you will need to navigate thru carefully to reach your destination at a longer time or kenna jam somewhere and get stuck. -
Before your rich, you must be poor right.
The transition from poor -> rich does require some amount of intelligence right
So a certain extent that does help.
But no use whining right?
IF we WHINE all day, we would get nowhere, get up, get out and do something.
Relative "INTELLIGENCE" does not matter, its what u do with it and how u benefit society is what matters most -
I know,but what abt ppl nowadays? They know their parents are rich so they just relax knowing their future is secured and as for the poor,they have to strive really really hard to achieve the goal of their life.it will be more unfair if one day both of this rich and poor fall for the same woman..then end up the woman choosing the rich one.Originally posted by PrinceRaied:Before your rich, you must be poor right.
The transition from poor -> rich does require some amount of intelligence right
So a certain extent that does help.
But no use whining right?
IF we WHINE all day, we would get nowhere, get up, get out and do something.
Relative "INTELLIGENCE" does not matter, its what u do with it and how u benefit society is what matters most -
it's not easier..Originally posted by rmyfrm: what makes you think its easier out there than back in singapore?
but at least the rich have an alternative route which the poorer doesnt... -
so that is why its unfair. and also, the rich are able to live longer cos they have the money to buy expensive medicines and get treatment whereas the poor had to seek help and if no help is given unfortunately,they will suffer and die. unfair eh?Originally posted by GHoST_18:it's not easier..
but at least the rich have an alternative route which the poorer doesnt... -
it is sad but it is true. i have studied in both 'top' and 'neighbourhood' schools and i have seen the trend 1st hand. the rich are able to send their children to better tuition classes and schools and etc so the chances of their child doing better is higher, although not all the time.
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Rich ppl kids can get the "outside" help to make them do better.
- Get in to best schools instead of "laoya" neighbourhood school, then they have better envoirnment to study.
- Can hire good tutor to help them in their studies.
- Most rich parents push their kids harder on studies.
- No need to work part-time for extra pocket money.
For kids from poor family, they have something "inside".
- Want to study hard and help to improve family situation. They work really hard by themselves. -
I am same boat as you. I wouldnt say top school la. Is 243 PSLE entry good? Anyway among my friends they all stay condo, bunglow, terrace etc. Of course there are those stay in HDB too. I always find myself the poorest among them. No money to play pool, bowling. Sometimes wan pay school fees oso cannt. On top of that I have to study hard bcos de pricipal know me on first name basis.Originally posted by Jerina:Erm...sometimes the not-well-to-do also have those pressures to perform well, you know. My dad is a teacher (doesnt earn alot, have to say) but people expect me and my sisters to excel like hell too.
I think it's difficult if you are NOT well-to-do yet you are stuck in a top sch. (speaking frm experience here). Ppl expect you to perform well and you are stuck with rich kids around you who can't imagine why you can't afford tuition or a maid at home.
Both the not-well-to-do and rich have probs. But I still stick with the fact no matter what, being rich is the lesser of two evils.
And who says the rich can't eat at hawker centres or have friends of a 'lower' class? They can do so, what. It's only their pride and fear of tarnishing the family image that's holding them back But then again, if they want to do all these things, they still can. *shrugs*
Whereas for the not-so-well-to-do, we cant exactly do the things the rich can, like travel first class etc etc.
Hence, being rich is still the lesser of two evils.
Of course maybe your definition of poor is more extreme than mine but when you are surrounded by rich people, you cant help thinking you are poor. -
Originally posted by LyonK:
learn to be happy, thankful and content with what you have fool! obviously you can go out with the peasants and go to their poor malls of mass production and try some peasant food once in a while. your parents and the snobs dont need to know the true details of your daily life.
Did one ask to be born in such circumstances? Why cant I go out with friends of 'different class', browse shopping malls together, enjoy a plate of hawker char kway teow alfresco style? Or perhaps get a part time job at McDonalds? I may not earn much but at least I can have a sense of fulfillment and knowing the value of the money I earn.
how dare you say you wish you can get a part time job at MAC DONALDS, you think working for free will fulfill you? know the value of that peanuts..? wow everytime you buy something you will feel heartache you know, wow this cost 100-1000 hours of rushing about there 8 hours a day serving peasants. HAHA! -
Originally posted by cApitaland:
ok lor, me 249, which was the lowest 10% in my nerd class for sure. my parents said why i get 249 ONLY?
I wouldnt say top school la. Is 243 PSLE entry good?
in sec 3 i couldnt stand all the guys and studying anymore, i quit and join neighbourhood school where 90% of the class fail tests. i had more fun there and much more girlfriends so i cant complain