Don't condemn people in AA
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ok you win!Originally posted by Gedanken:Making that list too long might just get him all confused again.
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Finally...
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Well standards and guidelines can be set, its not difficult. Question is ..... will it be followed ?? This is an open forum, everyone and anyone are able to input their own opinions in their own way which I can be sure that most of it will not be up to your so call "Standards" into whichever or whatever thread that they might choose to even after these 15 pages of debating.
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The only person who seems to be spouting nothing but confused, inane, self-contradictory, hypocritical, self-aggrandising gobbledygook. is youOriginally posted by Gedanken:The only person who seems to find it difficult is you. Nobody else has any problem understanding that you're spouting nothing but confused, inane, self-contradictory, hypocritical, self-aggrandising gobbledygook. -
Making that list too long might just get you all confused again.Originally posted by Gedanken:Making that list too long might just get him all confused again. -
don't think you can say nonsense here in AA - we your bosses won't let you.Originally posted by Gedanken:I don't think the old man can say anything with authority - his boss won't let him. -
i agree totally ,Space1999 writings have a tinge of pretentiousness, imagined wisdom and hyprocrisyOriginally posted by Space1999:i agree totally ,his writings have a tinge of pretentiousness, imagined wisdom and hyprocrisy
and before i forgot
incoherent statements tinged with big words.
have you really experience life enough to say what you want to say with authority?
Critics are like eunuch in a harem: they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves
maybe you can understand this simple english
and before i forgot
incoherent statements tinged with big words.
have you really experience life enough to say what you want to say with authority?
Critics are like eunuch in a harem: they know how it's done, they've seen it done every day, but they're unable to do it themselves
maybe you can understand this simple english ...
Anyone can sprout baseless opinions and hope that others are stupid enough to believe them... propaganda does not work in an open forum...
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That is what simple minded people think. Life is simple what... everything is simple wat!Originally posted by MooKu:X 2!
The issues are really not that "difficult" and "complicated".
But nobody learns anything from an incoherent chain of posts that serve more to confuse than anything else.
Think so hard for what? Look at reality for what? Understand reality for what? Clear up ambiguities for what? crystallize your thoughts and look at reality in the face for wat? and that is the way to live life... just find a couple of beliefs and cling to them for your dear life...
It is good when a thread "serve more to confuse" if you thought that you have it all work out and some comes along and tell you to , "hey wait a minute..." and got you all confused....
If you are confused... the logical and intelligent way is to ask the poster to clarify... not jump to conclusions...
standards and guidelines can be set and it is up to the individual to follow them...Originally posted by MiX Metal:Well standards and guidelines can be set, its not difficult. Question is ..... will it be followed ?? This is an open forum, everyone and anyone are able to input their own opinions in their own way which I can be sure that most of it will not be up to your so call "Standards" into whichever or whatever thread that they might choose to even after these 15 pages of debating.
So how are you going to stop it ?
If you want to input your opinion, you have to state your basis... otherwise people are not so stupid as to take other people's opinions when they have not stated clearly why they hold on to these opinions...
And stop for what? The benefit is in the debate... the benefit is in the process...
If you chose to cling on to your opinions without basis... then the one that loses out is you...
The rest that are trying to understand what others are saying and clarifying and making the effort to say what they mean logically and with valid arguments... these are the ones that benefit from the whole exercise... -
actually hor.... from reading the past three or four pages hor.... your statement is not true lor....Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:The only person who seems to be spouting nothing but confused, inane, self-contradictory, hypocritical, self-aggrandising gobbledygook. is you
because hor, gedaken is right, considering the number of people who think you're nuts.
btw.... how's the book sale doing?
maybe once upon a blue moon.... you sell a couple of copies???? -
hmmm... I suddenly realise that there is an very loud echo on this page.
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hmm you are on to something here...Originally posted by Chin Eng:actually hor.... from reading the past three or four pages hor.... your statement is not true lor....
because hor, gedaken is right, considering the number of people who think you're nuts.
btw.... how's the book sale doing?
maybe once upon a blue moon.... you sell a couple of copies????
i just found out his tactics are alike a little kid, remember? when you are young , you just repeats what the other person says to irritate them to hell?
well he is either doing that or just
you win!!!
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isn't that the truth.....Originally posted by Space1999:truly childish little boy -
Funny you should mention that. Echolalia is a symptom of autism, schizophrenia and Tourette's syndrome, amongst other disorders.Originally posted by Chin Eng:hmmm... I suddenly realise that there is an very loud echo on this page.
Explains a lot, doesn't it?
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Explains a lot, doesn't it.... oops.... sorry....Originally posted by Gedanken:Funny you should mention that. Echolalia is a symptom of autism, schizophrenia and Tourette's syndrome, amongst other disorders.
Explains a lot, doesn't it? -
*yawnz* tell your opinions to equally stupid people that will take it to heart when it is devoid of any basis...
sure... continue to live your lives like that, base on baseless beliefs... imaginations, conjectures and delusions...
You people are so desperate to win? You win lor!
*yawnz* tell it to someone that cares for your opinions...
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...perhaps you should take up on your own advice.... and share your opinions to those who cares for them.... sure as hell, these folks are not here.... but then, maybe, once in a blue moon, one may turn upOriginally posted by AndrewPKYap:*yawnz* tell it to someone that cares for your opinions... -
Considering the number of people?Originally posted by Chin Eng:actually hor.... from reading the past three or four pages hor.... your statement is not true lor....
because hor, gedaken is right, considering the number of people who think you're nuts.
btw.... how's the book sale doing?
maybe once upon a blue moon.... you sell a couple of copies????
Besides fallacy of ad populum... hahahaha 3 or 4 of the same clowns giving people their baseless opinions over and over is "Considering the number of people?"
Just cling on to your beliefs for your dear life bah... that is all you have... wooo "logic" wooo "making valid arguments" wooo sinful to use your own efforts....
hello, sheep does not think... they only follow... learning advance thinking skills can cause you to lose your faith... faith is believing without logic and evidence... -
which, statistically speaking, is still better than an opinion of one.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:Considering the number of people?
Besides than fallacy of ad populum... hahahaha 3 or 4 of the same clowns giving people their baseless opinions over and over is "Considering the number of people?"
... but perhaps, once in a blue moon..... -
that exactly is what believers will say... as long as there is something to cling to, no matter how tenuous, and even if it not logical and fail the standard of what makes a good argument... they will cling on to it for their dear lives...Originally posted by Chin Eng:which, statistically speaking, is still better than an opinion of one.
... but perhaps, once in a blue moon..... -
you know, for someone who's suppose to have lost, you sure have a lot of things to say hor.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You people are so desperate to win? You win lor!
actually, I'd just done a count of this thread, the number of folks that disagree with high is definitely higher than 3 or 4.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:that exactly is what believers will say... as long as there is something to cling to, no matter how tenuous, and even if it not logical and fail the standard of what makes a good argument... they will cling on to it for their dear lives...
the reverse is true too, even if something is not logical and fail the standard, someone holding this opinion, say you, will cling on to it regardless of the number of people disagreeing with you, and as you'd said, you will cling on to it for your dear life.
yes, you are right, I win (not because I think I won, but out of respect for your declaration that I won)
yes, once in a blue moon, I can win sometimes even though the victory is declared by someone else. -
You did a count and you refuse to tell us the number... too embarrassing to do that issit? For someone who is a mod of a religious forum, be more honest bah...Originally posted by Chin Eng:actually, I'd just done a count of this thread, the number of folks that disagree with high is definitely higher than 3 or 4.
the reverse is true too, even if something is not logical and fail the standard, someone holding this opinion, say you, will cling on to it regardless of the number of people disagreeing with you, and as you'd said, you will cling on to it for your dear life.
yes, you are right, I win (not because I think I won, but out of respect for your declaration that I won)
yes, once in a blue moon, I can win sometimes even though the victory is declared by someone else.
I hold on to it because I based it on sound premises which nobody (Gedanken tried, lost and resorted to name calling) could refute but you base it on "the number of folks that disagree" which means you yourself probably have no idea why you disagree... just like your beliefs right? Many people accept and so you follow but you yourself probably have no idea why. -
ok lah I will try to do a count.... but may not be able report in today.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:You did a count and you refuse to tell us the number... too embarrassing to do that issit? For someone who is a mod of a religious forum, be more honest bah...
I hold on to it because I based it on sound premises which nobody (Gedanken tried, lost and resorted to name calling) could refute but you base it on "the number of folks that disagree" which means you yourself probably have no idea why you disagree... just like your beliefs right? Many people accept and so you follow but you yourself probably have no idea why.
did not give number doesn't mean I am dishonest.
just because I did not bother to give reason, doesn't mean that I don't have a reason. I can choose right?
just because I did not post earlier does not mean I did not read.
and why are you condemning me as someone as dishonest.
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So is your emphasis now on good arguments? Previously, you were talking about valid arguments instead, so what's it going to be?Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:that exactly is what believers will say... as long as there is something to cling to, no matter how tenuous, and even if it not logical and fail the standard of what makes a good argument... they will cling on to it for their dear lives... -
Just because you didn't address doesn't mean it wasn't refuted, sport.Originally posted by AndrewPKYap:I hold on to it because I based it on sound premises which nobody (Gedanken tried, lost and resorted to name calling) could refute
So, does your slipping in the "if' and "otherwise" without acknowledging your original erroneous categorical statement make it all better? Your refusal to acknowledge that post-hoc patch job just shows your dishonesty and cowardice. -
Sure you can choose and people can speculate, right?... I mean you claimed to have made a count and then refuse to tell us what it is... you see, good thinking includes precision...Originally posted by Chin Eng:ok lah I will try to do a count.... but may not be able report in today.
did not give number doesn't mean I am dishonest.
just because I did not bother to give reason, doesn't mean that I don't have a reason. I can choose right?
just because I did not post earlier does not mean I did not read.
and why are you condemning me as someone as dishonest.
and for someone who's "lost", why so many things to say?
sure you can don't give reasons but that would mean that you are making statements without any reasons... you see, good thinking includes clarity of thought and clarity of what the bases are...