OK pt taken.Originally posted by uglyguy:what the chance of an ITE graduate going in?
zero? i no dip, i no As.
i got nothing. must go through it the hard way.
Unfortunately, paper qualification is too impt in SG... if u can, dun stop at diploma n definitely nt O-LVLs...Originally posted by uglyguy:haha... to long my dear... then when i get out i will be 30!!!
too old to study, i am a old fashion guy, want to find someone and settle down, start a family and stuff.![]()
I agree...mayb UniSIM's engrg courses fr UOL are alright...Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:For those poly grads who can't make the top percent cut for the NTU NUS courses, kindly go PSB or UniSIM.
For those who did their A's, please pray that you don't go to the pte unis.
During my time,Originally posted by CitiGal:haha u were fr NTU engin? I was too... NTU engin is way more fun I tink! My frens fr NUS engin dun like NUS engin also. duno y?
fate is true. a long wayOriginally posted by CitiGal:OK pt taken.
but, u can go the long way... after ITE, go poly. from poly, work HARD then can COM holder n go NTU...
since u seem to hv e drive, then shd go for it ba...
u noe wat, I tink it still is!Originally posted by EngAudListCo_Director:During my time,
NTU was the dumping ground for people who still want to do engineering.
I am proud to obtain my engineering from NUS.
Originally posted by rainhawk87:sigh...
[b]fate is true. a long way
but reality it doesnt
my fren cant go poly despite result that meet cut of point of gpa
jobless for months and work not in his field of trade[/b]
Correction, OU, RMIT and a few others...Originally posted by Lambo:I just graduated from PSB academy a few months ago with dip in biz admin..
hmm i can say that there are much more choices of the univs offered in degree courses compared to SIM.. SIM is mostly UOL which is very common IMO.
WELL SAID.Originally posted by leddy:It's not true NTU is a 'dumping ground' for engineering students. This is an overstatement, a term the school doesn't deserve, and often misused by utterly uninformed people. NTU is largely a university specialised in technology based degrees, it can afford to take in a much larger cohort of engineering students becoz it have the space and facilities that NUS dont have. So its down to the issue of demand and supply, students will find it easier to get into NTU engineering than NUS engineering. However that does not undermine the quality of NTU's engineering degree.
Given the standards required of NTU's engineering faculty, students with below par performance, meaning a GPA of less than 2.0 after 4 semester will be terminated from their studies. And students who fail their core subjects, have to retake them b4 they graduate. In fact, it's much harder to graduate with an engineering degree from NTU than NUS. So end of the day, you still get qualified engineers coming out of NTU.
Dumping ground???Originally posted by EngAudListCo_Director:During my time,
NTU was the dumping ground for people who still want to do engineering.
I am proud to obtain my engineering from NUS.
Let me give those who contributed in this thread and who are graduates and undergrads of engineering from NTU a bit of history lesson...Originally posted by EngAudListCo_Director:During my time,
NTU was the dumping ground for people who still want to do engineering.
I am proud to obtain my engineering from NUS. [/quote]
[quote]Originally posted by No9:
Dumping ground???
haha...i dun think u noe ur facts well man.
NUS is ranked so well because its a comprehensive university,they offer Law, Medicine, Philosophy..blah blah...even if you remove the engineering schools from NUS..they will still do well!!
NTU is ranked well because we are DAMM BLOODY good in engineering.
Anyway, I am from NTU MAE Yr 3. I love my school and I love my education. You bet I am damm proud of it.
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Methodologically, the index is open to some criticism. It is not specified who is surveyed or what questions are asked. The student internationalisation indicator rewards entrepreneurial volume building but not the quality of student demand or the quality of programs or services. Teaching quality cannot be adequately assessed using student-staff ratios. Research plays a lesser role in this index than in most understandings of the role of universities. The THES rankings reward a university's marketing division better than its researchers. Further, the THES index is too easily open to manipulation. By changing the recipients of the two surveys, or the way the survey results are factored in, the results can be shifted markedly.
This illustrates the more general point that rankings frame competitive market standing as much or more than they reflect it.
Results have been highly volatile. There have been many sharp rises and falls, especially in the second half of the THES top200 where small differences in metrics can generate large rankings effects. Fudan in China has oscillated between 72 and 195, RMIT in Australia between 55 and 146. In the US Emory has risen from 173 to 56 and Purdue fell from 59 to 127. They must have let their THES subscriptions lapse.
Second, the British universities do too well in the THES table. They have done better each successive year. This year Cambridge and Oxford suddenly improved their performance despite Oxford's present problems. The British have two of the THES top three and Cambridge has almost closed the gap on Harvard. Yet the British universities are manifestly under-funded and the Harvard faculty is cited at 3 1/2 times the rate of its British counterparts. It does not add up. But the point is that it depends on who fills out the reputational survey and how each survey return is weighted.
Third, the performance of the Australian universities is also inflated.
Despite a relatively poor citation rate and moderate staffing ratios they do exceptionally well in the reputational academic survey and internationalisation indicators, especially that for students. My university, Melbourne, has been ranked by the 3703 academic peers surveyed by the THES at the same level as Yale and ahead of Princeton, Caltech, Chicago, Penn and University of California, Los Angeles. That's very generous to us but I do not believe it.