SIM degrees really worthless??
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going to grad from poly in march 2008.
As u have guess, i posted this because my grades dun cut out for NUS/NTU/SMU.
my only option is SIM. are those long distance degrees from UOL or RMIT even recognised in sg??? -
Usually the website got say the degree is conferred by which Uni de..
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i got some CSOs working in my office who have diploma only and now doing part time degree at SIM, their pay arnd high end 2k-low end 3k...i think its quite ok bah? summore they're not say old or young arnd late 20s-early 30s.
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Shud be but depends on wad you plan to do ba.....
Best to check with MOE lor.
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President Nathan is the patron of UniSIm....
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Originally posted by mhcampboy:President Nathan is the patron of UniSIm....
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UniSim got sell roti prata meh?Originally posted by mhcampboy:President Nathan is the patron of UniSIm....
You think worthless or not?
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wah lao say our president like disOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:UniSim got sell roti prata meh? -
patron not customerOriginally posted by Darkness_hacker99:UniSim got sell roti prata meh? -
UOL degrees are recognised in the private sector (dunno about civil service)...esp those attained with honours. The course is not easy to do, actually.
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i never regretted, knowing me and my friends are now working in top banks
truth is, we realise one thing
a degree is only as good as the person earning it -
UOL external degrees are not as easy as in-campus ones where you get a lot of hints and helps from lecturers and tutors. After all, exams are set internally and the examiners are your teachers too. Also, the uni do not want you to fail becos that means fewer graduates and alumni.Originally posted by Wanda:UOL degrees are recognised in the private sector (dunno about civil service)...esp those attained with honours. The course is not easy to do, actually.
External programmes don't have all these. Therefore, UOL is 'tougher' than NUS, NTU and SMU. Once you have done UOL, you can 'walk-over' all the others! -
I think your last para is really taking it too far, unless you personally had taken the same course from all 4 tertiary institutions.Originally posted by TheGoodEarth:UOL external degrees are not as easy as in-campus ones where you get a lot of hints and helps from lecturers and tutors. After all, exams are set internally and the examiners are your teachers too. Also, the uni do not want you to fail becos that means fewer graduates and alumni.
External programmes don't have all these. Therefore, UOL is 'tougher' than NUS, NTU and SMU. Once you have done UOL, you can 'walk-over' all the others! -
a degree is the minimum for you to find jobs that you aspire to land. That being said, SIM degrees are not worthless at all, as long as you graduate with a good testimonial from your lecturer everything will go smoothly. Even SIM graduates are able to find management jobs in banks, example my cousin who graduated with a Degree in Finance found a job as Auditing Manager at OCBC bank though he got the interview thanks to my Aunt.
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y do working ppl wan do a degree? jus to get one? young ppl get degree so they can get a better job when grad. but they are already working, get liao still same pay rite? nt like they are finding a new job?Originally posted by speakupforyourrights:i got some CSOs working in my office who have diploma only and now doing part time degree at SIM, their pay arnd high end 2k-low end 3k...i think its quite ok bah? summore they're not say old or young arnd late 20s-early 30s.
i dun see the practicality of doing a degree mid career..... -
I disagree with you.Originally posted by venny:y do working ppl wan do a degree? jus to get one? young ppl get degree so they can get a better job when grad. but they are already working, get liao still same pay rite? nt like they are finding a new job? i dun see the practicality of doing a degree mid career.....
Basically, doing a degree in the middle of the career is to acquire more knowlege, especially when you reached a stagnant period. That is why the government is always encouraging employees to retrain and upgrade themselves. Sometimes, "that degree certificate" is your ONLY chance to get promotion and pay rise!
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civil service doesnt hold degrees from sim overseas uni in high regard hor
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degree only determines where u start.
attitude, hr, pr, leadership skills will determine where u end up in the long run. -
Thats not really true. Unless u wanna stay in a company all your life, satisfied with the same pay and meagre increment every year, then dun.Originally posted by venny:y do working ppl wan do a degree? jus to get one? young ppl get degree so they can get a better job when grad. but they are already working, get liao still same pay rite? nt like they are finding a new job? i dun see the practicality of doing a degree mid career.....
Otherwise, you will really need a degree for a job with better prospect and salary. And as people usually tend to job hop every couple of years nowadays, having a degree is has more advantage. At least, ur resume won't be dumped without reading.
Especially for people who wanna go into banking and finance, i guess degree is a must requisite. Unless u have good connection to gain an interview session, it's still better to have a degree.
For ppl like me with only an O level certificate, it's only so far i can go, earning gross abt 2.7 a month. But if i wanna do better than that, i will definitely have an advantage if i can get a degree. I can say i have much experience as i have been working for the past 7 yrs, so I know when i had earn my degree, My choices and possibilities are open to a wider variety to what i can do. -
its a necessity for a degree living in singpore. its hard to go up the ranks if you dont have qualification..
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Yeah, check with MOE, then MOE check with who?Originally posted by :Shud be but depends on wad you plan to do ba.....
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[quote]Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Yeah, check with MOE, then MOE check with who?[/quote
dunno. i tink eventually it comes to the employer itself bah.... de scope of ur degree syllabus. some coys see the modules u take n some is de degree's name. -
sounds encouraging...SIM degrees are quite ok after all
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Your degree is pretty much what you make out of it. Doesn't matter from where if you have the determination and a clear idea of your career goal.
SIM degrees are only worthless when you just got a pass average. What you want to do is to do damn well in UOL external because that might be your ticket into higher degrees (they have scholarships to go to London for further study) . -
My degree was just to open doors. I got the doors open because I acquired permanent residency after I finished my degree. That was my investment and it paid off. My masters opened even more doors in Australia. So that is another investment which I hope will profit me even more.Originally posted by venny:y do working ppl wan do a degree? jus to get one? young ppl get degree so they can get a better job when grad. but they are already working, get liao still same pay rite? nt like they are finding a new job? i dun see the practicality of doing a degree mid career.....
So it really depends on how you want to use a degree. If you are going for a degree so that you can play paper chase , I would advise caution. A degree is an investment and as with all investments , you expect it to pay off.