Words said by army officers still affect me till now...
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I aspire to such a man someday in the near future, I mean not the 2IC.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Ah his 2IC has no inkling how to be a proper leader, one who is able to lead, inspire and get his men back alive. -
that is why in training you gotta train them well so that they don't think during war.Originally posted by Stoat:No time for that in a real war.
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Originally posted by Spnw07:
utter rubbish.
[b]"If you can't survive in the army, you can't survive the outside world."
Well, my first reaction was of course, that of utter disbelief, defensive and a little angry. But later somehow, I felt my officer was right in a way to say that to me.
I had been less capable, less street-smart compared to all my colleagues in the office. I was an army clerk, you see. I have always have trouble with understanding simple instructions and carrying them out perfectly (efficiently and effectively).
Maybe it boils down to maintaining a positive attitude, but my self-esteem has never been healthy since kindergarten days. For I have been very slow in understanding stuff and clumsy when it comes to most tasks.
I'm still seeing a psychiatrist and taking medication faithfully. However, as it is, self-esteem issues are too big for me to express adequately and accurately to mental health professionals.
I also have a deep distrust for and a deep dislike of people due to various life experiences. So all this, together with my VERY slow to understand and inferiority complex, this has made staying on jobs for at least a year an almost impossible task.
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I would agree.Originally posted by No9:utter rubbish.
Military performance has no actual relation to performance in the corporate world.
However, if you're in a staff or admin role, it's quite easy to see if your office management skills are up to par. -
Merry X'mas!
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try exercising?
Scientifically to improve self-esteem.
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I KENNA COMPLAIN ABOUT MY SERGEANT COS EVERYTIME HE SHOUT AT ME.I FEEL SO SIAN THAT I COMPLAIN ABOUT HIM AFTER I LEFT NS.
HOW ABOUT THAT FOR PAYBACK,MOTHETRUCKER!! -
the way i hear my gf complain about her office and how people are always bitcching about each other, i have two things to be grateful about.
1-that i'm not a girl.
2-that i signed on.
Don't get mistaken, not that i think that i can't cut it in civvy street, but to work around people who have nothing better than to gossip and backstab each other makes me thankful i'm a regular combatant, working with people who can learn to put aside their differences to get the job at hand done for a common goal, and that is, to finish and phuck off.
Granted there are pros and cons. But at least i don't have to worry about people sabotaging my work. Because in the office, doing that can earn you credit, but in the army, doing that will just get yourself (and everyone else in your team) killed.
So TS, maybe your officer is right in a sense, if you can't tahan the army, how can you tahan the civilian life, where friends might backstab you, steal your work, sabotage your plans and spoil your reputation, just so they can get promoted faster? -
Spnw07.
Based on your recollecting of your officer's words and your claim that you find it almost impossible to remain in a job for over a year, I shall thus assume that you have had left the military for a good period of time.
While it is dreadful and totally without basis what you had been told while @ National Service (truth is ..the officers themselves have not even stepped outside of their uniformed comfort zone and have no idea how the "outside world" works) I will humbly state that your recollecting of negative comments serves but a comfort and excuse for the failures that you may have and will encounter.
Its with all due respect that I submit to you that All that you have written, for better or worse, serve for excusable reasons for failing or not staying on. After all, it truly is easier to find an excuse than to challenge the norms and values that you might have been [negatively] associated with.
We hear of stories of ITE students making it to poly, poly students making it to universities, ITE fellas becoming millionaires. I personally know of a Singaporean who scored but 218 in the PSLE and then posted to Yio Chu Kang Sec who made it to Harvard. And for them all, I'm sure no excuse could serve adequate enough for them to "resign to fate" .
I pray that you'd come to that realization... and while your peers have all been nice enough to hold your hand and comfort you, I'd rather you realize that maybe all you need to do is step out and start anew.Originally posted by Spnw07:"If you can't survive in the army, you can't survive the outside world."
Well, my first reaction was of course, that of utter disbelief, defensive and a little angry. But later somehow, I felt my officer was right in a way to say that to me.
I had been less capable, less street-smart compared to all my colleagues in the office. I was an army clerk, you see. I have always have trouble with understanding simple instructions and carrying them out perfectly (efficiently and effectively).
Maybe it boils down to maintaining a positive attitude, but my self-esteem has never been healthy since kindergarten days. For I have been very slow in understanding stuff and clumsy when it comes to most tasks.
I'm still seeing a psychiatrist and taking medication faithfully. However, as it is, self-esteem issues are too big for me to express adequately and accurately to mental health professionals.
I also have a deep distrust for and a deep dislike of people due to various life experiences. So all this, together with my VERY slow to understand and inferiority complex, this has made staying on jobs for at least a year an almost impossible task. -
ppl who stayed in the army does not have much of a life, unless u r a commissioned officer... cuz as a commissioned, you have much more connection with outside world and overseas countries... other than tt, like warrants, sgts... nt much of a life... everyday listen to orders, like u hav no mind of ur own... so dun care abt wad ur officer say.. army is army.. the only thing army does is to help u make more frens... and make u look stupider with a helmet on.. tt's all.. nth to do with work experience outside..
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I agree with you that I could be making excuses for myself. However, I would also like to point out that not only is it easy for some of those concerned to make excuses, it is equally easy for others who hear about such excuses to ask them to step out and start anew.Originally posted by bleuwhale:Spnw07.
Based on your recollecting of your officer's words and your claim that you find it almost impossible to remain in a job for over a year, I shall thus assume that you have had left the military for a good period of time.
While it is dreadful and totally without basis what you had been told while @ National Service (truth is ..the officers themselves have not even stepped outside of their uniformed comfort zone and have no idea how the "outside world" works) I will humbly state that your recollecting of negative comments serves but a comfort and excuse for the failures that you may have and will encounter.
Its with all due respect that I submit to you that All that you have written, for better or worse, serve for excusable reasons for failing or not staying on. After all, it truly is easier to find an excuse than to challenge the norms and values that you might have been [negatively] associated with.
We hear of stories of ITE students making it to poly, poly students making it to universities, ITE fellas becoming millionaires. I personally know of a Singaporean who scored but 218 in the PSLE and then posted to Yio Chu Kang Sec who made it to Harvard. And for them all, I'm sure no excuse could serve adequate enough for them to "resign to fate" .
I pray that you'd come to that realization... and while your peers have all been nice enough to hold your hand and comfort you, I'd rather you realize that maybe all you need to do is step out and start anew.
Hence, it is not easy for people like me to understand who are my friends and who are just admonishing for the pure sake of it.
Maybe you do not have close friends who had gone through similar situations as me or maybe you have, but somehow I personally think every individual is different, no matter how equal the opportunities are in front of them.
I can understand your point of view, which is not wrong from a third party point of view.
Hope you will not have to come across people like me in your life, which sounds like, from what you've said, a burden to people.