Is fighting an act of passion or an unacceptable act?
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So lets just move forward.Originally posted by jojobeach:
Many years ago liao.
Now I am only left with the scars and empathies to other women in similar circumstances.
Dun let it be a weight that hinders your movement.
Sometimes it might be the wrong person or it might be wrongly deal with.
Either reasons, It will not be the same case for our future.
If you take it personally, it will only lessen your torlerence level should the same thing happen. >> to him , it may be -20, but u will view it as -200!
Hence it will definately affect your next relationships. -
Well, he is afraid of losing you.Originally posted by jojobeach:He ALWAYS come up with a VALID reason for his actions.
When he hurt me, it was ALWAYS something I had done.
True, I wasn't the best girlfriend.
I was young, I was playful, I want to experience life.
I was pretty, I have no lack of men after me.
What do you expect ? I'm not a 50 year old woman.
But, keeping me in his cage was all that he wants.
I remember asking him " Do you only want my body ? Is that all you care about? You don't care that I no longer love you. "
His answer was " I love you, that is all you need to know."
"As long as you stay with me, that's all I need."
There are some ways which a man would do to try to keep their sponse with them.
The french will make their partners fat, my friend just control her gf by wearing less appealing, cut off her contacts with guy's friends and keep them busy with them.
Once you can tie them down till about late 20s, then they have no choice but to marry. lol
But i guess you wanted to experience life, hence it creates a lack of security in him.
The reason is simple, " Prevent Comparison".
And secondly, it pose a threat, should big arguement exist, you will not hasitate to jump from one relation to another as you have "choices". -
And by hurting me, he's not going to lose me ?Originally posted by abterror:Well, he is afraid of losing you.
There are some ways which a man would do to try to keep their sponse with them.
The french will make their partners fat, my friend just control her gf by wearing less appealing, cut off her contacts with guy's friends and keep them busy with them.
Once you can tie them down till about late 20s, then they have no choice but to marry. lol
But i guess you wanted to experience life, hence it creates a lack of security in him.
The reason is simple, " Prevent Comparison"
C'mon lah. How can this be correct ?
The ONLY way to keep a woman's heart and body by your side is to ensure she is HAPPY.
Any other ways only results in FAILURE. -
Wrong timing i guess.Originally posted by jojobeach:Well, then, you lose control. You lose.
I am stress up with my own issue.
Perhaps i find her unreasonable as well.
The last fight was when i helped her to clear her drawer which was full of her past memories.
She was hungry and she asked me to put them back. (hungry woman is an angry woman)
But i instist her to at least look at what can be throwed away before we go for lunch as i have already put in the effort to help her take out some junks for the whole morning.( Dun want to waste the effort)
Then arguement start followed by actions.
I tried to hold her, she tried to stam my foot.
I lock her, she yell pain and i released.
She kick me and i kick her back. (Hold back strength already)
She cried and i apologies and massaged her arms.
And when we part, it was the end.
I find it ironic, my intention is to be there giving her the moral support to clear her old drawer which is full of her good and bad memories. i dun get any benefits from this, yet it cost me dearly. The approach i think. Like what you mentioned, i lose control. i lost.
But on the other hand, she lost control, she win? lol
Dun make sense. -
Timing la.Originally posted by jojobeach:And by hurting me, he's not going to lose me ?
C'mon lah. How can this be correct ?
The ONLY way to keep a woman's heart and body by your side is to ensure she is HAPPY.
Any other ways only results in FAILURE.
Assuming if i am feeling good, i will agree to almost anything.
Assuming if i am having a bad day, and you add salt in my wound.
Would you be biten?
It is similar to a saying.
Dun provoke a woman when she is having her mens cramp.
90% will get scolding unless she/he really has a soft temper.
Which i feel most ppl dun have, as we are living in a fast pace and tense environment. -
I noticed you don't want to concede to her requests.Originally posted by abterror:Wrong timing i guess.
I am stress up with my own issue.
Perhaps i find her unreasonable as well.
The last fight was when i helped her to clear her drawer which was full of her past memories.
She was hungry and she asked me to put them back.
But i instist her to at least look at what can be throwed away before we go for lunch as i have already put in the effort to help her take out some junks for the whole morning.( Dun want to waste the effort)
Then arguement start followed by actions.
I tried to hold her, she tried to stam my foot.
I lock her, she yell pain and i released.
She kick me and i kick her back. (Hold back strength already)
She cried and i apologies and massaged her arms.
And when we part, it was the end.
That is often when fights starts.
She wants her way, but you refused to give it to her.
I believe, you have control issues.
Do you feel less of a man when you give in to her ?
Do you feel like you cannot control your woman, because you give in to her ?
Is the wasted effort worth losing the relationship ?
If I am you, I'd just dump back everything into her drawer, and tell her " I'm not doing this again." then go have your meal. -
Yes, of course you don't antagonize an already flustered person.Originally posted by abterror:Timing la.
Assuming if i am feeling good, i will agree to almost anything.
Assuming if i am having a bad day, and you add salt in my wound.
Would you be biten?
It is similar to a saying.
Dun provoke a woman when she is having her mens cramp.
90% will get scolding unless she/he really has a soft temper.
Which i feel most ppl dun have, as we are living in a fast pace and tense environment.
But you don't have the right to lay your hands on that person either.
If she makes you unhappy means she deserves to get spank.
Then I would have spanked many guys every month I have my menses ah ?
It's all about self control ok ? -
But frankly speaking, Did u start the fight or did he start it?Originally posted by jojobeach:I tried fighting physical with physical.
I slap him, he punch me.
I push him, he slam me against the wall.
I scratch him, he pulls out my hair.
I hit him with my fist, he pins me down with his weight on my back.
In your words, you started slaping then he punch u.
In any ways, dun hit back.
It will only give both parties more reasons to carry on.
Just like what i had did. I kick her back. To me it is fairness but to think about it. It is just an eye for an eye.
I feel so bad.... -
Originally posted by jojobeach:
I noticed you don't want to concede to her requests.
That is often when fights starts.
She wants her way, but you refused to give it to her.
I believe, you have control issues.
Do you feel less of a man when you give in to her ?
>>>a good reason?
Do you feel like you cannot control your woman, because you give in to her ?
>>>when if she dun wanna do it, at least convince me by giving me a reason.
Is the wasted effort worth losing the relationship ?
>>>I have no idea that clearing a drawer can lead to such an incident. Noone will be able to perceive, helping to clear a drawer will lead to such an ending....
If I am you, I'd just dump back everything into her drawer, and tell her " I'm not doing this again." then go have your meal.
>>>Perhaps i should show some trimum( dun know how to spell...)
But more to logical thinking most of the time, just clear then once and for all. -
It works both ways.Originally posted by jojobeach:Yes, of course you don't antagonize an already flustered person.
But you don't have the right to lay your hands on that person either.
If she makes you unhappy means she deserves to get spank.
Then I would have spanked many guys every month I have my menses ah ?
It's all about self control ok ?
assuming if head = happy, tail = unhappy.
We have 25% chance to hit a unhappy unhappy situation.
Nothing will happen if both are happy or either side give ways when the other is unhappy.
make sense? But we are usually indulge in our own unfortunate issue than putting both of us in the picture. -
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I noticed you don't want to concede to her requests.
That is often when fights starts.
She wants her way, but you refused to give it to her.
I believe, you have control issues.
Do you feel less of a man when you give in to her ?
>>>a good reason?
Do you feel like you cannot control your woman, because you give in to her ?
>>>when if she dun wanna do it, at least convince me by giving me a reason.
JOJO>> What happens when she gives you a reason she feels is reasonable, but to you it is not good enough . Will you accept her reason ?
Is the wasted effort worth losing the relationship ?
>>>I have no idea that clearing a drawer can lead to such an incident. Noone will be able to perceive, helping to clear a drawer will lead to such an ending....
JOJO>> We all know, clearing the drawer will not lead to such violent ending.
BUT, using force WILL NEVER HAVE A GOOD ENDING.
If I am you, I'd just dump back everything into her drawer, and tell her " I'm not doing this again." then go have your meal.
>>>Perhaps i should show some trimum( dun know how to spell...)
But more to logical thinking most of the time, just clear then once and for all.
JOJO>> You don't seem to have very high regards to your woman's thinking.
To you , she is just a dumb woman , isn't it ?
Her thinking is not as good as yours.
Her reasoning is not as good as yours.
You need an intelligent woman, but can you handle it ?
Or no woman will ever be smart enough for you ?
The only way to find out, is to be involved with several different other women to figure this out. -
abterror,
You must accept the fact that, woman don't think like a man.
We never will.
And women are emotional creatures, we think with our feelings. -
Do you feel less of a man when you give in to her ?
>>>a good reason?
Do you feel like you cannot control your woman, because you give in to her ?
>>>when if she dun wanna do it, at least convince me by giving me a reason.
JOJO>> What happens when she gives you a reason she feels is reasonable, but to you it is not good enough . Will you accept her reason ?
>>>Another problem..... So what do you suggest? Oblige to all her request? There must be a certain mutual agreement to reach a acceptable decision.
Is the wasted effort worth losing the relationship ?
>>>I have no idea that clearing a drawer can lead to such an incident. Noone will be able to perceive, helping to clear a drawer will lead to such an ending....
JOJO>> We all know, clearing the drawer will not lead to such violent ending.
BUT, using force WILL NEVER HAVE A GOOD ENDING.
>>>Noone knows a good intention of helping out will turn into such endings...
If so, why did u fight that time? what can be done to avoid these? Your opinion?
If I am you, I'd just dump back everything into her drawer, and tell her " I'm not doing this again." then go have your meal.
>>>Perhaps i should show some trimum( dun know how to spell...)
But more to logical thinking most of the time, just clear then once and for all.
JOJO>> You don't seem to have very high regards to your woman's thinking.
To you , she is just a dumb woman , isn't it ?
Her thinking is not as good as yours.
Her reasoning is not as good as yours.
>>> There must be a certain agreement. I told her my rational for my actions, she tell me it is her drawer and stuff. Maybe different thinking via genders...
You need an intelligent woman, but can you handle it ?
Or no woman will ever be smart enough for you ?
The only way to find out, is to be involved with several different other women to figure this out.
>>> I dun know really, just let things go with the flow.
Like what u mentoned, involve learn and find out thru loses. -
A guy who think with feeling???Originally posted by jojobeach:abterror,
You must accept the fact that, woman don't think like a man.
We never will.
And women are emotional creatures, we think with our feelings.
Sounds a bit sissy...
But will you like to have such a partner?
Does it work?
Maybe it comes down to the egg or chicken issue.
U think like me or i think like u?
Maybe in school, they should teach us how to think like the other gender. -
No, that's not what I meant.Originally posted by abterror:A guy who think with feeling???
Sounds a bit sissy...
But will you like to have such a partner?
Does it work?
Maybe it comes down to the egg or chicken issue.
U think like me or i think like u?
Maybe in school, they should teach us how to think like the other gender.
I'm trying to tell you that, you cannot expect a woman to think like yourself (a man). -
Haiz, since we cant think alike.Originally posted by jojobeach:No, that's not what I meant.
I'm trying to tell you that, you cannot expect a woman to think like yourself (a man).
Why dun god it a way that all guys are gays and all women are lesbian.
WORLD PEACE.....
Think the only solution for Mars and Venus to be together is:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XnU7bm6cQTA
Agree? -
Agree.Originally posted by abterror:Haiz, since we cant think alike.
Why not god make all guys are gays and all women are lesbian.
WORLD PEACE.....
Think the only solution for Mars and Venus to be together is:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XnU7bm6cQTA
Agree?
AND
Male give birth to male kids.
Female give birth to female kids.
Then like that hor.. world peace and human will not be extinct.
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Then all guys will be FULL of shyt when they are born.Originally posted by jojobeach:Agree.
AND
Male give birth to male kids.
Female give birth to female kids.
Then like that hor.. world peace and human will not be extinct.
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Originally posted by abterror:Then all guys will be FULL of shyt when they are born.
hahahahahaah
I think guys are already full of shyt. Teee heee.. sorry cannot help it. -
Should guys do not have any shyt, how can thy amuse you and keep you entertained? lolOriginally posted by jojobeach:
I think guys are already full of shyt. Teee heee.. sorry cannot help it.
BTW, what does a woman see in a guy?
I am sure not physically, or they just wanna be loved? -
Damned scary for a guy to give birth.Originally posted by jojobeach:
I think guys are already full of shyt. Teee heee.. sorry cannot help it.
Can we vote for test tube babies?
Else it will really be "Pain in the ass." -
Shyt is not for fun. Didn't your mother tell you not to play with shyt ?Originally posted by abterror:Should guys do not have any shyt, how can thy amuse you and keep you entertained? lol
BTW, what does a woman see in a guy?
I am sure not physically, or they just wanna be loved?
What does a woman see in a guy ?
It very much depends on what life phase she is at.
But I think Yunhaier has compiled a list liao. I think you can ask him/her.
But in summary.
When young, looks.( to show off lah)
When young adult, must be fun, active and confident of himself.
When working, potential income and responsibility.
When older , security for getting married.
When married liao, good father and commitment to family. -
Pwees lah. What is so scary ?Originally posted by abterror:Damned scary for a guy to give birth.
Can we vote for test tube babies?
Else it will really be "Pain in the ass."
Nowadays fathers goes into the birthing area to receive their newborn and cut their umbilical cords.
You're a man leh.
In a war, you'd be blowing people apart. Like that not scary, give birth only scary ? Wah lao.
You don't play those gory games ? -
The only constant in a woman is CHANGE.
We adapt.
That is why, men has a harder time adapting to family life when a new baby comes along.
Some men actually goes into depression when the dynamics of their family changes drastically. -
Well, we shoot paper targets now.Originally posted by jojobeach:Pwees lah. What is so scary ?
Nowadays fathers goes into the birthing area to receive their newborn and cut their umbilical cords.
You're a man leh.
In a war, you'd be blowing people apart. Like that not scary, give birth only scary ? Wah lao.
You don't play those gory games ?
Sorry to inform you that we have never fire at live target before.
I wonder how many ppl can take it when they see brain flying out, or any other internal organs.
By then, i believe you will see the whole street will be what you see when u want to buy pork.