seeking help from suicide saviors
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Hi, everyone~
As the increase of number of suicide cases recently (after yr2000), especially teenagers committing suicide, I want to do a social project to help people who are having unsolvable problems by preventing them to commit suicide. I hope more people could understand that life is just an experience, no matter how much you are enjoying or suffering, you only have one chance to experience it. Nothing in life will happen twice.
I think nothing could be stronger than true stories of suicide saviors. If you or any of your friends had committed unsuccessful suicide and willing to share the experience with others, to help more people be aware of this issue and understand more about the true values of our precious lives.
Please drop me a email asap if you are willing to help~
Thank you very much!!!
A student from NTU
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are you trained or have any qualifications to counsel anyone?
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i think what you need to understand first is why people attempt/commit/consider suicide.
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give u a hint here, depression is one of them, u gonna know why pple depress and u gonna learn how to teach pple deal with depress.
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depression is one of them...
however, i see something happening in the world right now that is.. i dunno... i'm kinda indifferent about.. they are the whiners... i only have sympathy for the people they leave behind..
they whine so much about things they don't have, they refuse to work for, they refuse to do anything about, then to spite everyone, they kill themselves..
i figure, you can't help those even if you tried your damnest to do...
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Originally posted by the Bear:
depression is one of them...
however, i see something happening in the world right now that is.. i dunno... i'm kinda indifferent about.. they are the whiners... i only have sympathy for the people they leave behind..
they whine so much about things they don't have, they refuse to work for, they refuse to do anything about, then to spite everyone, they kill themselves..
i figure, you can't help those even if you tried your damnest to do...
Hey Bear,I wouldn't say too much, some people just cannot rationalize properly at times and thus end their lives. Not everyone can make that leap of logic when it is most needed.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Hey Bear,I wouldn't say too much, some people just cannot rationalize properly at times and thus end their lives. Not everyone can make that leap of logic when it is most needed.
killing themselves out of spite?like i said, i dunno.. they had the "logic" to come up with cause-effect rationalisations why the world owes them...
some just top themselves.. the horrifying turn that is happening now are the shooters.. those who decide to take as many others as possible with them before their own pointless suicide...
there are those who are depressed..
what i'm looking at here are those who are so self-centred that i can't even begin to sympathise with them..
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agree
u cant help everyone, help those who wanna get help, help those who care. u need to show them a working plan, to accept or not is up to the person already.
out of 10 person if u can help 1 or 2 then mission accomplish.
人自助则天助也 - one have to help oneself then heaven will come to help.
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Originally posted by the Bear:
killing themselves out of spite?like i said, i dunno.. they had the "logic" to come up with cause-effect rationalisations why the world owes them...
some just top themselves.. the horrifying turn that is happening now are the shooters.. those who decide to take as many others as possible with them before their own pointless suicide...
there are those who are depressed..
what i'm looking at here are those who are so self-centred that i can't even begin to sympathise with them..
I am talking about those who lost their ability to think clearly. For those who think death is the only end of life, too bad.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I am talking about those who lost their ability to think clearly. For those who think death is the only end of life, too bad.
What are you talking about? Those who think death is the only end of life, clearly are the same group of people who lost their ability to think clearly. -
When we see someone going to jump out of a window, with tears in his or her eye, are we gonna say "Wait arh, I go look for counseller for you. I will advertise in the papers for you. Must have a degree and at least 1 year working experience, okay?"
One does not need a 'qualification' to help, c'mon. It is ridiculous. All one needs is someone who has a heart and willing to offer a lending ear - that's all it bloody well takes! Even a roadsweeper can help avert the death of a wannabe suicidal confused person by listening first then directing him/her to someone who can offer solutions.
I applaud the TS Apple Pie In your eyes' civic consciousness and public spiritness.
It is seldom seen in our too pragmatic society and espacially in institutions of higher learning, where it seemed that their quest for knowledge is mainly for their own wallet and future condos, and not for the noble purpose of uplifting the lives of the lesser educated.
They seemed to have chosed to became an elite, separating themselves from the common people, losing touch with the ground, from which we all sprang from. No one was of royal blood when Singapore became an independant state.
People like Apple Pie are the hope for a civil and more caring society. No matter how perfect or resiliant we think ourselves are, there will always be some who will be left behind, either financially, physically or mentally. We must never forget or leave them behind. They are our fellow citizens.
Their forefathers worked hard to build up Singapore what it is today. Think about it as you sit in the spanking clean MRT or study in a fully equipped modern classroom and ask yourself - who paid and built such facillities?
Human lives are precious. Good Luck Apple Pie.
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I think TS is trying to set up a group of witness to share their experiences...
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Thank you very much for all replies, I’m not trying to study or analyze the causes for suicide, as I think for different individuals they have different reasons. We can’t do something that could directly solve their problem, so what I want to do is using true stories to let people know that if they give up on their lives, they would miss more precious moment which would happen in their lives. I hope to have someone who tried to commit suicide but did not succeed, and they feel grateful that they did not die stand out to share their stories; or someone had friend or family member committed suicide because of some unsolvable problems, but eventually all the problems had been solved not because of his/her death. I wish to put these true stories together to let people understand nothing in life is going to last forever, every day is a fresh day. When people understand this through all true stories, they might think twice when they face difficulties in life and would not give up so easily.
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Originally posted by BotaHead:
give u a hint here, depression is one of them, u gonna know why pple depress and u gonna learn how to teach pple deal with depress.
And I've always thought people kill themselves because of happiness; you've truly opened my eyes.
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
I am talking about those who lost their ability to think clearly. For those who think death is the only end of life, too bad.
Um...how else could life end other than in death?
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Only things certain in life is death and taxes. Whenever I'm feeling like life is giving me shit, and I'm feeling my lowest. I would think of the many stories I've read on the newspaper. People who are borne with diseases, children in Africa who would marvel at the little things that we take for granted everyday. All this story will make me feel blessed with the life I have and give me hope again. There are people worse off than me, and if they are living with smiles on theirs faces then I should live everyday smiling too. Just sharing my thoughts.
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Originally posted by Detached:
What are you talking about? Those who think death is the only end of life, clearly are the same group of people who lost their ability to think clearly.
First case is just a temporal lost while the other is a permanent lost. -
Originally posted by cantdecide:
Only things certain in life is death and taxes.
Whenever I’m feeling like life is giving me shit, and I’m feeling my lowest. I would think of the many stories I’ve read on the newspaper. People who are borne with diseases, children in Africa who would marvel at the little things that we take for granted everyday. All this story will make me feel blessed with the life I have and give me hope again.
There are people worse off than me, and if they are living with smiles on theirs faces then I should live everyday smiling too.
Just sharing my thoughts.
lol.. simplyfying life to that extent to death n taxes ? haha
How about suffering n disappointments ? Dun leave them out.
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wat make u think that those try try unsuccessful will wan to talk ???
only those that walk out of their shell will be willing to share anything with u
those taht are still stick in this drit bag will still be hiding in some cornors of their rooms.
maybe u should start gathering yr info from the mental hospital or hospital itself,
of cuse the doctors / nurse wont gave u any info cause of ethit.
u have to scout yrself then
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oh i forget u can skip those that wan to die due to love issue