The hazards of being an educated female in Singapore.
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http://talkback.stomp.com.sg/forums/showthread.php?t=94999
The hazards of being an educated female in Singapore.
This is my personal account from recent observation and memory, and is no means to being a nation-wide statistic nor phenomenon. It may be singular more than wide spread.
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My JC class of 12 females, thereabouts, have a varied life. All of them went on to local Universities, NUS and NTU. There are no SMU graduates as I don't think SMU has opened up applications then. That may be wrong, but point being, all are NUS / NTU graduates.
- The "vainest" of all married early. She was 24, and married 2 years after graduation. Her husband is relatively old, around 5 years older.
- The "prettiest" of the class (widely concurred) married surprisingly early, too, at 26. Her husband is also relatively older, at 7 years older than her (us). She conceived very soon into marriage, and duly has a daughter. Her child is now coming 3 years of age.
- Out of the balance, there are 2 girls "unaccounted" for. They have dropped off the radar totally. These 2 girls are the "nerds" of the class. No idea what happened to them at all.
- Of the remaining lot of 6, this is what is happening to them, now.
- They are all single (unmarried).
- Half of them are in serious relationships, with a view to get married.
- Half of them (4 I have in mind), are not in a serious relationship, or in any form of relationship.
The last category of girls from my JC batch set me thinking. Personally, to me, I do not find them very attractive, physically speaking. This is not to say they are ugly or have a physical deficiency, but more of, they are not the awesome jaw dropping kind that makes you spill your coffee on your shirt.
They are now 30 years of age. They are not seeing anyone. They have graduated and have been working thereabouts 8 years in the workforce. If you take progressive financial increments over the years for a working professional, they should be easily in the S$5,500 - S$7,500 range as all four of them are in the finance industry. Not taking into account possible bonuses and performance related bonuses, that is a >S$80,000 annual, with a view to go maybe even up to S$120,000/annum for a good year with 6 months bonus.
They may be unfortunate, in the sense that the guys who woo-ed them, they simply ain't interested in. They may be unfortunate, in the sense that the guy who they will be interested in, had eyes for another. Whatever the case is, you can't force someone to date, and you can't force someone to be interested in you.
I know for a fact after conversation, that they do not have incredibly high standards for a guy. They just want a guy who is preferably of the same, if not marginally lesser income power, someone intelligent, and of good character. But it just seems that the guys who woo-ed them (or a lack of guys to woo them) just never materialized with those qualities.
On the outset, they do not seem flustered. With a healthy income, they indulge in spas and getaways and they go to exotic destinations for holidays. Recently, one of them came back from Spain with an extra suitcase than she left with. However, I do believe that inwardly, they do experience a certain loneliness.
When they were younger in their twenties, they probably put that loneliness aside for their dedication towards their career. Everyone however hits a precipice of thought - even me, yes, even me - and this will channel a certain sense of long term planning and security for the self. Having a marriage, being loved, and starting a family, is an aspect of that sentiment.
Beyond this year, they will be >30. It will be harder and harder for them to attract an independent male of suitable character and ability (read: intelligence, professional et cetera), and even age, for them to be with.
Being an educated, relatively high income earning professional woman in Singapore does have its hazards and its risks. In my opinion, if they were actually not so successful in life, perhaps, they may even have been married years ago. This sentence, however, is my personal and individual thinking, and not of any form of stigmatization.
Myself? I am 30, in half a year's time thereabouts. Am I worried? Not at all man. The shit's out there for me. Why?
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Seem like all the educate females are doing great - some have careers, some married and all living their lifes. At least they are no such losers to date you.
Haha 30+ male - got nothing to do but to think of keep on thinking what happen to his class females - seeing them having career and families , which he have zero. What a loser !!!What out there for you man - !!! Big fat nothing. !!!
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lol
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hmmm -
Choices, choices, choices.
Life is surreal.
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Originally posted by storywolf:
Seem like all the educate females are doing great - some have careers, some married and all living their lifes. At least they are no such losers to date you.
Haha 30+ male - got nothing to do but to think of keep on thinking what happen to his class females - seeing them having career and families , which he have zero. What a loser !!!What out there for you man - !!! Big fat nothing. !!!
lol.
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If you take progressive financial increments over the years for a working professional, they should be easily in the S$5,500 - S$7,500 range as all four of them are in the finance industry. Not taking into account possible bonuses and performance related bonuses, that is a >S$80,000 annual, with a view to go maybe even up to S$120,000/annum for a good year with 6 months bonus.
That is considered to be above average wages in Singapore. Like that very few guys will approach I think.
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Have to agree....at salary upwards of $80k to $120k a month.....very few guys would be interested in them.....same goes for the girls....they would probably set very high standards for the girls they are looking for....They would most probably end up not getting married in the end...and having to spend their golden years in loneliness....
Good thing that TS is a guy......guys at 30s and 40s can still easily get chicks in the 20s.....unlike gals who would most likely be branded as cougars.....lol
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Eh if a guy's earning that much he's probably going to look for a girl that's way younger.
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Originally posted by ☃®:
http://talkback.stomp.com.sg/forums/showthread.php?t=94999
The hazards of being an educated female in Singapore.
This is my personal account from recent observation and memory, and is no means to being a nation-wide statistic nor phenomenon. It may be singular more than wide spread.
---------------------------
My JC class of 12 females, thereabouts, have a varied life. All of them went on to local Universities, NUS and NTU. There are no SMU graduates as I don't think SMU has opened up applications then. That may be wrong, but point being, all are NUS / NTU graduates.
- The "vainest" of all married early. She was 24, and married 2 years after graduation. Her husband is relatively old, around 5 years older.
- The "prettiest" of the class (widely concurred) married surprisingly early, too, at 26. Her husband is also relatively older, at 7 years older than her (us). She conceived very soon into marriage, and duly has a daughter. Her child is now coming 3 years of age.
- Out of the balance, there are 2 girls "unaccounted" for. They have dropped off the radar totally. These 2 girls are the "nerds" of the class. No idea what happened to them at all.
- Of the remaining lot of 6, this is what is happening to them, now.
- They are all single (unmarried).
- Half of them are in serious relationships, with a view to get married.
- Half of them (4 I have in mind), are not in a serious relationship, or in any form of relationship.
The last category of girls from my JC batch set me thinking. Personally, to me, I do not find them very attractive, physically speaking. This is not to say they are ugly or have a physical deficiency, but more of, they are not the awesome jaw dropping kind that makes you spill your coffee on your shirt.
They are now 30 years of age. They are not seeing anyone. They have graduated and have been working thereabouts 8 years in the workforce. If you take progressive financial increments over the years for a working professional, they should be easily in the S$5,500 - S$7,500 range as all four of them are in the finance industry. Not taking into account possible bonuses and performance related bonuses, that is a >S$80,000 annual, with a view to go maybe even up to S$120,000/annum for a good year with 6 months bonus.
They may be unfortunate, in the sense that the guys who woo-ed them, they simply ain't interested in. They may be unfortunate, in the sense that the guy who they will be interested in, had eyes for another. Whatever the case is, you can't force someone to date, and you can't force someone to be interested in you.
I know for a fact after conversation, that they do not have incredibly high standards for a guy. They just want a guy who is preferably of the same, if not marginally lesser income power, someone intelligent, and of good character. But it just seems that the guys who woo-ed them (or a lack of guys to woo them) just never materialized with those qualities.
On the outset, they do not seem flustered. With a healthy income, they indulge in spas and getaways and they go to exotic destinations for holidays. Recently, one of them came back from Spain with an extra suitcase than she left with. However, I do believe that inwardly, they do experience a certain loneliness.
When they were younger in their twenties, they probably put that loneliness aside for their dedication towards their career. Everyone however hits a precipice of thought - even me, yes, even me - and this will channel a certain sense of long term planning and security for the self. Having a marriage, being loved, and starting a family, is an aspect of that sentiment.
Beyond this year, they will be >30. It will be harder and harder for them to attract an independent male of suitable character and ability (read: intelligence, professional et cetera), and even age, for them to be with.
Being an educated, relatively high income earning professional woman in Singapore does have its hazards and its risks. In my opinion, if they were actually not so successful in life, perhaps, they may even have been married years ago. This sentence, however, is my personal and individual thinking, and not of any form of stigmatization.
Myself? I am 30, in half a year's time thereabouts. Am I worried? Not at all man. The shit's out there for me. Why?
I am a male.hello radish...
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why he so kpo abt the gers.
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Originally posted by ztreyier:
That is considered to be above average wages in Singapore. Like that very few guys will approach I think.
Walau if the girl earns more intimidating meh? the most seperate acc books mah.... happy can le
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hmmm...
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lesson is = if the gal earning more she should try to downgrade her expectations of the guy's earnings , she will have more suitors and choices to choose from.
Low income guys can always get pretty girls from china, vietnam and thailand. Can the same be said for women?
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Originally posted by Stevenson101:
Eh if a guy's earning that much he's probably going to look for a girl that's way younger.
exactly, if i earning that much i would rather go for those look like supermodel
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Originally posted by Genie99a:
Walau if the girl earns more intimidating meh?
I think majority of men won't want a women that earns twice or more of their income.
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Women after 30 likely to end up as cougar and being used by younger guys for sex who have a fantasy of being with older women. then when these young guys wake up and say bye to them, thats the end. they are screwed
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Originally posted by ztreyier:
I think majority of men won't want a women that earns twice or more of their income.
I wouldnt mind if she is good character and just average looks.. its best she pays for herself for material things. why not?
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Originally posted by ☃®:
Women after 30 likely to end up as cougar and being used by younger guys for sex who have a fantasy of being with older women. then when these young guys wake up and say bye to them, thats the end. they are screwed
Dude, you have the potential to become the Asian version of George Sordini, the gym killer.
Article ..Bitterness towards women tormented gym killer.
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I think govt worry about this issue.
More graduate women unable to settle down.
Guys will not (majority) go for a graduate lady earning more than $5,500 per month. If guys earning less and is not a graduate.
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Originally posted by ☃®:
lesson is = if the gal earning more she should try to downgrade her expectations of the guy's earnings , she will have more suitors and choices to choose from.
Low income guys can always get pretty girls from china, vietnam and thailand. Can the same be said for women?
The way you sound is like you been rejected by every working woman in Singapore .
Well say - on the same say for women. Woman should alway get good man and not a low esteem pig who kpo abt the gers.
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I think both sexes need to lower down their expectatin a bit.
Cannot simply wait for your dream partner.
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haha.
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It is dangerous to be an educated female because you could get robbed and than rape and killed
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Originally posted by Daveteo:
It is dangerous to be an educated female because you could get robbed and than rape and killed
Wow...like that also can? In spore?