Troubled Guy who resorts to wearing female underwear
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I do not know if you people are interpreting it as I am ah gua, like to become woman type. But I think I'm not, I just happen to have a mentality that wearing bras are comfortable, giving me more support. I mean, if girls are to go out on street without bras wun that be uneasy. I just like the feeling of wearing of wearing female underwear, it is just nicer, nothing else. Btw, I'm not taking female hormones, the breast cream only simulates breast growth temporary...i think...
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loneranger, don't u live with your family?
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i would advise you to throw all those undergarments away..
singlets is defintely better.. -
(DonÂ’t read this like any other messages. Please read slowly and carefully of what I wrote below. I hope I can assist you.)
Dear LoneRanger, my first question to you is, are you wearing bra now? If yes, what is your immediate feeling if I ask you to take it off now? Will you be reluctant and ask, “Why should I?”
I got a few questions for you.
1. Are you a more feminine (feminine is NOT equal to Ah Gua) person?
2. Do you have a gf at all in the past?
3. Have you thought of the consequences of what you are doing now (from wearing bra and panties to apply “don’t-know-what” cream)? If YES, are you willing to bear all the consequences? Example of consequences: a) What if your parents or friends found out what you are doing? b) What if your future gf found out about your big breast? If NO, will you kick the habit soon?
4. What is your job now?
5. Why is your nick LoneRanger? Are you a loneranger? Are you a shy person?
6. Are you willing to change if you don’t wish to seek professional help? If you are not willing, then WHY bother to post this thread in this forum? Is it because you hope that someone can “support” your idea? Or what?
7. What is your ht and wt?
8. What do you do at home after work (when with your bra on)?
9. You said you were stressed and upset recently that made you wanted to cross dressed again. So what actually happened?
(Please answer all the questions honestly if you really want help. i.e. DonÂ’t bluff yourself or hide anything from us.) -
you are just giving yourself excuse for this behavior you have having. You can't settle this yourself, because you lost all form of rational sense whatsoever.Originally posted by LoneRanger:I do not know if you people are interpreting it as I am ah gua, like to become woman type. But I think I'm not, I just happen to have a mentality that wearing bras are comfortable, giving me more support. I mean, if girls are to go out on street without bras wun that be uneasy. I just like the feeling of wearing of wearing female underwear, it is just nicer, nothing else. Btw, I'm not taking female hormones, the breast cream only simulates breast growth temporary...i think...
Which guy in the right sense of mind would use breast cream?
You don't see a doctor - you seek professional help because they know how to help you. You mentioned you feel ashamed, then isn't it worst if you are acting like this forever?
You don't want to listen? So you wanna find if there is anyone like you or seeking for some positive views? Sorry, you wouldn't find it here, neither outside, unless you declare yourself as a drag or similiar.
Is your life, I think I being very naggy speaking over the same issue again and again - well, if you don't heed this: let me predict for you: be prepared for major emotional crisis anytime within the next 2 and half years of your life.
P.S: Are you a pisces?
Cheers -
(DonÂ’t read this like any other messages. Please read slowly and carefully of what I wrote below. I hope I can assist you.)
Dear LoneRanger, my first question to you is, are you wearing bra now? If yes, what is your immediate feeling if I ask you to take it off now? Will you be reluctant and ask, “Why should I??
No... if i was wearing... maybe i would...
I got a few questions for you.
1. Are you a more feminine (feminine is NOT equal to Ah Gua) person?
Nope
2. Do you have a gf at all in the past?
Nope
3. Have you thought of the consequences of what you are doing now (from wearing bra and panties to apply “don’t-know-what?cream)? If YES, are you willing to bear all the consequences? Example of consequences: a) What if your parents or friends found out what you are doing? b) What if your future gf found out about your big breast? If NO, will you kick the habit soon?
I cannot let them find out... they wun find out.. if i really love my gf i will..
4. What is your job now?
Related to food industry..
5. Why is your nick LoneRanger? Are you a loneranger? Are you a shy person?
Any how choose one...not a lonely...
6. Are you willing to change if you don’t wish to seek professional help? If you are not willing, then WHY bother to post this thread in this forum? Is it because you hope that someone can “support?your idea? Or what?
Just want to listen and see some comments... do not want to keep it all to myself...
7. What is your ht and wt?
170cm .. 65pluskg?
8. What do you do at home after work (when with your bra on)?
watch tv, computer games, sleep...
9. You said you were stressed and upset recently that made you wanted to cross dressed again. So what actually happened?
sick of my work and the girl rejected me..
(Please answer all the questions honestly if you really want help. i.e. DonÂ’t bluff yourself or hide anything from us.) -
How do you actually buy them without getting the stares from other people?
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Stress ...
i think thru reading our words it won't get into you brain...
u need to talk to someone ... a doctor ...
Don't worry .. a doctor won't ever laugh at you... confidential one ...
22 years old ... 1/4 of your life gone...
how long you wan to wait ... ?
take a video cam and record down what you are doing ..
replay it...
pesto~!
you wouldn't like that image yourself~
mai tu liao ..... -
I think most likely you are suffering from depression or some other similar mental illness. Mental illness means that your brain is sick (not pervertic or mad); just like flu or fever kinda of sick. Can be cured. It could also because initially you want to be different and your childhood experiences are haunting and “encouraging” you to do this again. Things will only get “worse” if you don’t do something about it now (You did mention that you are doing this a longer period now than before). Conclusion: Only 2 ways to solve your potentially dangerous habit. 1. Help yourself by kicking the habit yourself OR 2. Seek professional help. A psychologist is a professional who will help you deal with it mentally (and will NOT laugh at you).Originally posted by LoneRanger:(Don’t read this like any other messages. Please read slowly and carefully of what I wrote below. I hope I can assist you.)
Dear LoneRanger, my first question to you is, are you wearing bra now? If yes, what is your immediate feeling if I ask you to take it off now? Will you be reluctant and ask, “Why should I??
No... if i was wearing... maybe i would...
I got a few questions for you.
1. Are you a more feminine (feminine is NOT equal to Ah Gua) person?
Nope
2. Do you have a gf at all in the past?
Nope
3. Have you thought of the consequences of what you are doing now (from wearing bra and panties to apply “don’t-know-what?cream)? If YES, are you willing to bear all the consequences? Example of consequences: a) What if your parents or friends found out what you are doing? b) What if your future gf found out about your big breast? If NO, will you kick the habit soon?
I cannot let them find out... they wun find out.. if i really love my gf i will..
4. What is your job now?
Related to food industry..
5. Why is your nick LoneRanger? Are you a loneranger? Are you a shy person?
Any how choose one...not a lonely...
6. Are you willing to change if you don’t wish to seek professional help? If you are not willing, then WHY bother to post this thread in this forum? Is it because you hope that someone can “support?your idea? Or what?
Just want to listen and see some comments... do not want to keep it all to myself...
7. What is your ht and wt?
170cm .. 65pluskg?
8. What do you do at home after work (when with your bra on)?
watch tv, computer games, sleep...
9. You said you were stressed and upset recently that made you wanted to cross dressed again. So what actually happened?
sick of my work and the girl rejected me..
(Please answer all the questions honestly if you really want help. i.e. DonÂ’t bluff yourself or hide anything from us.) -
If you really love a girl you will kick the habit? The question is now if your gf knows about your insidious behavior, you think she will accept you? And because of this behavior, I bet you will seal your lips regarding this: a shadow will gloom over you and probably you will have conflict between telling and keeping it a secret - trust problem.Originally posted by LoneRanger:(DonÂ’t read this like any other messages. Please read slowly and carefully of what I wrote below. I hope I can assist you.)
Dear LoneRanger, my first question to you is, are you wearing bra now? If yes, what is your immediate feeling if I ask you to take it off now? Will you be reluctant and ask, “Why should I??
No... if i was wearing... maybe i would...
I got a few questions for you.
1. Are you a more feminine (feminine is NOT equal to Ah Gua) person?
Nope
2. Do you have a gf at all in the past?
Nope
3. Have you thought of the consequences of what you are doing now (from wearing bra and panties to apply “don’t-know-what?cream)? If YES, are you willing to bear all the consequences? Example of consequences: a) What if your parents or friends found out what you are doing? b) What if your future gf found out about your big breast? If NO, will you kick the habit soon?
I cannot let them find out... they wun find out.. if i really love my gf i will..
4. What is your job now?
Related to food industry..
5. Why is your nick LoneRanger? Are you a loneranger? Are you a shy person?
Any how choose one...not a lonely...
6. Are you willing to change if you don’t wish to seek professional help? If you are not willing, then WHY bother to post this thread in this forum? Is it because you hope that someone can “support?your idea? Or what?
Just want to listen and see some comments... do not want to keep it all to myself...
7. What is your ht and wt?
170cm .. 65pluskg?
8. What do you do at home after work (when with your bra on)?
watch tv, computer games, sleep...
9. You said you were stressed and upset recently that made you wanted to cross dressed again. So what actually happened?
sick of my work and the girl rejected me..
(Please answer all the questions honestly if you really want help. i.e. DonÂ’t bluff yourself or hide anything from us.)
Then what If you don't truly love a girl? Or if nobody suitable ever comes? Let me tell you, you will never change? Things will be worst if you are a Leo, Scorpio, Aquarius or Taurus.
You never have a gf - probably you never would until you do something about these and not find a gf then do something about it.
This is the same for people who is obsess with porns and indulge in it everyday and available moment. This behavior will subconsciously change the attitude and reception of woman and will degenerate his own value, personality and character.
It is like Artifact domination in AD & D (Advanced Dungeon and Dragon). You will gradually grown to that behavior and in the end you become like one.
By answer these answer only provides an insight for doesn't solve your problem. Your problem is unique and and requires professional help and which you WON'T BE ABLE to find it here. You can have the advantage of being anonymous here, but you won't be able to solve your problem. WHAT'S THE USE?
You are avoiding every single one of my post - go ahead and avoid my words, but mark this: Be prepared because paper can't hold fire for long. You will ruin yourself and have totally destruction of reputation in your social circle. I guarantee you that you prefer to remain in this way: your social skill will probably dip and want to chase a girl? Next life probably - inferior character always lose out to all competitors.
This is a chain effect: I don't know how to explain to you in mere words here, but if you dare reply my post and challenge yourself to do what you ought to do, you will live a better life. Afterall, you only live once.
P.S: I won't be replying to this thread anymore because I feel that its has lost its meaning totally. You want to gain sympathy or seek similiar habits from people around here - you won't find it. Even God won't save someone who don't want to save themselves.
Cheers -
Is it really not okay to wear bra... i feel so sad.
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wah where u buy the cream ah? must introduce to some girls i know.Originally posted by LoneRanger:Dear Master,
To me, I feel that this is my very personal problem. I cannot possibly discuss this with my parents. I'm already in my 20s, I would not want to upset them. I was just hoping to continue to keep this secret. I do not deny at first it does arouse me but after some time.. some times it does not arouses me anymore. I feel normal to be wearing a bra doing things walking around, the presence is not there and i somehow feel more happy to be able to wear a bra.
But there is something I'm worried. I actually bought breast enhancement cream and pills so that i can develop breasts and now I have close to a B cup. I'm thinking if people starts to realise I got breasts..
Everytime when I leave house, I have to take of my bra and it just feels very uncomfortable, the chest/breast area feels very insecure, i just feel quite embarassed without wearing it anymore..
btw issit u wanan wear bra cos its tight and feels secure? u try switch to tight singlet and tight underwear lor.. maybe will work? -
of course it is not okay. Only girls wear bra.Originally posted by LoneRanger:Is it really not okay to wear bra... i feel so sad.
I agree with the rest of them here - YOU'VE GOTTA SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP before it's too late. -
Stop deceiving yourself! All your actions clearly spelt out that you want yourself to be like a girl. And you are on your way based on the cream that you've bought, in no time, you'll graduate from there. And if your chest can really developed, then it'll become obvious to people around you. You're scaring them. And all your actions are bizzare!
We don't know you. So you may really not have any problem with your family, but you have a serious psychological problem with yourself and your own gender. -
I think it all boils down to your own will power to stop wanting to wear bras and panties, but it could also be part of a bigger problem of you trying to get into a relationship with a woman.
I suggest you seek counselling to help you decide...
Myself being a liberal, say that if you feel comfortable with it.. hten why not.. its a free world. -
ermm... wearing bra is only a physical act. i can wear a bra for fun too. However, if u r mentally/emotionally inclined to put on a bra, u got a problem.Originally posted by LoneRanger:Is it really not okay to wear bra... i feel so sad.
And u actually said ya not a gay, dunno if u r a transexual. I, personally, thinks u r alien, lunatic or Batman kinda pple.
y Batman?
- cos he wears undies on his head.
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throw away things that u feel will tempt u and live like a man!
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Always think that u r a man, not a gal. Bear this in mind.
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find a girlfriend asap.........?
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"Is it very proud to let people know I am a gut who wears girls underwear? And obviously nobody would like to hear rude comments. I still strongly feel that I have no wish to be a girl. But do you all think if it is ok for me to wear a bra everyday at least for the next few months, if not i feel very uneasy. I sometimes feel like a girl not allowed to wear bra..."
The above bold sentence shows that u r confused. U r contradicting urself. U DO NOT wish to be a gal. But, U FEEL like a gal becos of that bra problem.
Get offline. Get a doctor. U feel ashamed if u see a phychologist? I m sure there are pple like u everywhere. jus whether or not they choose to listen to advices and get on with normal life.
If u feel SOOOOOOOO confortable, then wear it. By all means. U know it is not acceptable n u say u feel sad. U just wan ur environment to bend n suit ur likings. Becos u do not wish to adheal to the social cultures here that bras on guys are not acceptable.
U only wan to talk abt urself, talk abt ur habit. Talk about how sad u are n how depressed u feel. But when pple offer u solutions, did u ponder on them? U didnt. Watever solutions given to u, u just say No to them. Becos of this reasons n that reasons.
If u want to carry on, go ahead, dun bother to repeat the same old lines so many times about how comfortable u feel in bras. We get ur idea. If u want to be normal n get on with life like any other guys, for god sake, GO AND BOOK AN APPOINTMENT WITH A COUNSELLOR AND SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP!!!!!!!!! DUN BE SUCH A STUBBON BULL! Are u a taurus? -
Hi Lone Ranger,
There are people out there who cross-dress. Curiosity drives them to it. Questions like 'what does it feel like to be a woman?', 'How do they feel wearing those clothes?' and etc. It seems that for you, you were quite unhappy with some situation you were facing months back and thus used it to help you de-stress. Could that also be the reason why you felt safe in it? In addition, you were rejected by someone you like and hence you could desire to sort of 'be like her', know why she felt that way.
So why are you still doing it? I'm suggesting that since wearing female underwear made you feel safe, without it would cause the opposite effect. It's like Linus (in Peanuts) who always lugged around a blanket. Even when Charlie Brown's sister (who apparently likes him very much, but is not reciprocated) tries to take it away, she cant. When we were young, we all had something we held on to, be it a bolster, hankie, toy, etc. But we later learn that it's ok even when we are without it, we learn to let go.
For women now, it's a social etiquette to put on a brassiere. It has less to do with feelings of security. Before all this lingerie business, Adam and Eve were both born naked until they took a bite of the apple which gave them the knowledge between good and evil. It's not comfort but 'required'.
I would like to encourage you since you lived all your life without wearing female underwear, you can do so without it definitely! It's a mindset that you need to break that you are naked. You are not and it is not required for you to put on lingerie. You are not going to be less as a person. In fact, you will not feel the shame and fear you now do. Even though the girl you have been waiting for has rejected you, you are not undesirable. You have many strengths. It's just a case of mis-matching. Do not blame yourself or feel less.
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I know what all of you are trying to tell me. I just cannot stop doing it. I tried to restrain myself but I end up wearing bras again after sometime. I'm really envious of those well-endowed women's body. 
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Obviously you're a waste of time. Believe there's nothing you can do about it? You're probably RIGHT. In fact, there's probably NOTHING we can do about it too? It's YOUR BODY, NOT ours. It's YOUR PROBLEM, not ours. You're not interested in solving it, what makes you think we ARE?Originally posted by LoneRanger: I know what all of you are trying to tell me. I just cannot stop doing it. I tried to restrain myself but I end up wearing bras again after sometime. I'm really envious of those well-endowed women's body.
Seriously... I've got NO PROBLEM with you wearing bra. Whether the others have a problem with that? It's NOT my problem neither....
You're envious of a women's cleavage? Go BE a WOMAN. Go for a plastic surgical ops? I'm quite sure that'll PROBABLY satisfy you more than your FANTASIES... Do us a FAVOUR? STOP WASTING our time. It's NOT like this is gonna kill you.
You want MORE? Go for the SURGICAL OPERATION. You want LESS of it, STRAIGHTEN out your thoughts. We CAN'T tie you to your chair. We can't control your mind.
It's either you CHANGE it, you ACCEPT it or you DON'T. END OF STORY.
By the way, are you working, a student or having nothing much in hand to do now? Don't you have anything better to THINK about? -
You want like-minded people who will reply to your post telling you "Yes! Like you, I cross dress and I like it alot!" You are in here looking for consensus so that you can continue doing what you preceived to the norm... sorry I don't think you'll get there here. Like what had already been mentioned, you're whinning over your problems and giving excuses.. Hello.. please don't abuse the forum... you've gotten tonnes and tonnes of suggestions and what's happening? You are sitting on them, you expect that fetish to go away on its own? No way manz.. bcoz you're not making the least effort to work on it.
It's all in the mind... You tried restraining yourself, still subconsciously you'll tell yourself it's a good feeling to be wearing bras, bottom line.. it equates to not doing anything... Please snap out of it.
Either you get an operation done and own a well-endowed body yourself or be thankful that your parents gave you a physique of normalcy, without any handicapped.
Anyway, I don't think you understand... bcoz it's all up there.. in the mind...
/exitsOriginally posted by LoneRanger: I know what all of you are trying to tell me. I just cannot stop doing it. I tried to restrain myself but I end up wearing bras again after sometime. I'm really envious of those well-endowed women's body. -
i have the perfect song for you:
Walkin' Round in Women's Underwear
(to be sung to "Walkin' in a Winter Wonderland")
Lacy things -- the wife is missin',
Didn't ask -- her permission,
I'm wearin' her clothes,
Her silk pantyhose,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear.
In the store -- there's a teddy,
Little straps -- like spaghetti,
It holds me so tight,
Like handcuffs at night,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear.
In the office there's a guy named Melvin,
He pretends that I am Murphy Brown.
He'll say, "Are you ready?" I'll say,"Whoa, Man!"
"Let's wait until our wives are out of town!"
Later on, if you wanna,
We can dress -- like Madonna,
Put on some eyeshade,
And join the parade,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear!
Lacy things... missin',
Didn't ask... permission,
Wearin' her clothes,
Her silk pantyhose,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear!