GF or juz Fren...???
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maybe u ladies out there could gimme the answer...
would a girl who claims that she loves u but wouldnt accept u because she is afraid of commitment n hurting the other party let u hold her hands, hug her and kiss her...???
confused...
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She doesn't want the burden and committment of a relationship, but she wants to enjoy the positive, loving aspect of it. (Flirty sms, message, regular phone calls, someone to be there, intimate actions, etc)Originally posted by GHoST_18:maybe u ladies out there could gimme the answer...
would a girl who claims that she loves u but wouldnt accept u because she is afraid of commitment n hurting the other party let u hold her hands, hug her and kiss her...???
confused...
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haiz... do you think she is serious about all this... really got me confused... any chance of progressing on from there...???Originally posted by Yunhaier:She doesn't want the burden and committment of a relationship, but she wants to enjoy the positive, loving aspect of it. (Flirty sms, message, regular phone calls, someone to be there, intimate actions, etc)
Cheers
she gets jealous whenever i tok or go out wif other girls... she got so pissed when a girl came up to me for my number last nite... -
WTF!!!???Originally posted by GHoST_18:maybe u ladies out there could gimme the answer...
would a girl who claims that she loves u but wouldnt accept u because she is afraid of commitment n hurting the other party let u hold her hands, hug her and kiss her...???
confused... 
It's exactly the same circumstance as me!!
She told me we should stop seeing each other for these reasons too...
Afraid of committing and afraid of hurting me because of that...
Sigh...
Seems like I'm not alone... -
Serious or not? I am not you, I won't comment.Originally posted by GHoST_18:haiz... do you think she is serious about all this... really got me confused... any chance of progressing on from there...???
she gets jealous whenever i tok or go out wif other girls... she got so pissed when a girl came up to me for my number last nite...
But such tactics are ways to retain a guy's feeling for her. In the 3th Law of the Art of Seduction - sending mixed message are used to confuse and disarm victims. The Ultimate psychological tricks woman loved to use is ren-ren-you-xi-wang-ke-ke-mei-ji-hui (everybody has hope, nobody got chance) theory.
If you want to get her - you have to use reversal counter-scheme on her. Obviously, she gets jealous over other girls because these ladies could be gaining the kind of attention you are showering on her to them. Like an empress's throne threatened to be substituted by other concubines.
This is her weakness.
Stir her dis-satisfaction and make her succumb - on the surface, it may appear that she is controlling the scene, but in the hidden scene, you are actually the master and she the jester.
Cheers -
kao!! i have this problem also...why all girls are the same issit?fuck man
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I agree with you! Whether she is serious or not, in time you will know. Most of them take time and lots of time... In the end, some will tell you that they have fallen in love with you; while others stay the same. This type of girls would behave and act like you are her stead while offically you are not. Well, just enjoy the moment while it last... sooner or later they will just blow up and throw away the friendship. Cheers!Originally posted by GHoST_18:haiz... do you think she is serious about all this... really got me confused... any chance of progressing on from there...???
she gets jealous whenever i tok or go out wif other girls... she got so pissed when a girl came up to me for my number last nite... -
Originally posted by hONdA_rIDeR:
kao!! i have this problem also...why [b]all girls are the same issit?fuck man[/b] all guys are bastards as well? definitely not the case from what i see.. let's not get into steorotyping mood again k.. -
Possibilities:Originally posted by GHoST_18:maybe u ladies out there could gimme the answer...
would a girl who claims that she loves u but wouldnt accept u because she is afraid of commitment n hurting the other party let u hold her hands, hug her and kiss her...???
confused...
1. She is uncertain and perhaps confused too. It's a drift mode between advance and withdrawal.
2. She could be just having some fun (and possibly toying with your feelings).
3. She can also be serious but don't want to have that kinda commitment.
Hmm... I'm quite sure I can come up with more possibilities if I decide to waste more of my time...? The story is too vague and the possibilities.... Hmm.... -
Been there.....went thru dat....but...wad to do...jus ignore n live on wif life...it hurts..but...will heal...onli on e outside look "ok!! but inside?? no idea...mayb still bleedin...who noes?
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Originally posted by Devil1976:
WAH.. wat story u wan...??? haiz...
[b]Possibilities:
1. She is uncertain and perhaps confused too. It's a drift mode between advance and withdrawal.
2. She could be just having some fun (and possibly toying with your feelings).
3. She can also be serious but don't want to have that kinda commitment.
Hmm... I'm quite sure I can come up with more possibilities if I decide to waste more of my time...? The story is too vague and the possibilities.... Hmm....
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oso dun know she serious or not... she said dun wan commitment but still ask me out... when girls come up to me she got pissed... when i tok to girls she got jealous... when i wan to go back home early after clubbing she begged me to stay... *sigh...*
we chat everyday til wee hours in the nite... icq everyday...
still hug n kiss n hold hands... wat is in her brains huh...???
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hahaha... actually i did... she got so upset when i flirt wif a ger...Originally posted by Yunhaier:Serious or not? I am not you, I won't comment.
But such tactics are ways to retain a guy's feeling for her. In the 3th Law of the Art of Seduction - sending mixed message are used to confuse and disarm victims. The Ultimate psychological tricks woman loved to use is ren-ren-you-xi-wang-ke-ke-mei-ji-hui (everybody has hope, nobody got chance) theory.
If you want to get her - you have to use reversal counter-scheme on her. Obviously, she gets jealous over other girls because these ladies could be gaining the kind of attention you are showering on her to them. Like an empress's throne threatened to be substituted by other concubines. This is her weakness.
Stir her dis-satisfaction and make her succumb - on the surface, it may appear that she is controlling the scene, but in the hidden scene, you are actually the master and she the jester.
Cheers
tat til now she still bring up tat issue of me hugging her...
but it hurts me too when i c her so upset... so i kinda stop doing all these to spite her... no point lah...
ni qi wo... wo qi ni... never ending cycle loh...
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I guess it's either you go with the flow or you ask her yourself? What are you looking (hoping) out for yourself?Originally posted by GHoST_18:WAH.. wat story u wan...??? haiz...
oso dun know she serious or not... she said dun wan commitment but still ask me out... when girls come up to me she got pissed... when i tok to girls she got jealous... when i wan to go back home early after clubbing she begged me to stay... *sigh...*
we chat everyday til wee hours in the nite... icq everyday...
still hug n kiss n hold hands... wat is in her brains huh...???
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actually i did tell her... she said me liked me too.... but she is afraid of commitment n she dun wanna hurt me... she said i m the last person on earth she wanna hurt...Originally posted by Devil1976:I guess it's either you go with the flow or you ask her yourself? What are you looking (hoping) out for yourself?
haiz... it's so strange.. it's juz that something in her tat made me fall head over heels wif her... -
Originally posted by GHoST_18:hahaha... actually i did... she got so upset when i flirt wif a ger...
tat til now she still bring up tat issue of me hugging her...
but it hurts me too when i c her so upset... so i kinda stop doing all these to spite her... no point lah...
ni qi wo... wo qi ni... never ending cycle loh... The idea is not to spite her - your intention is different.
Its a long sets of theory when it comes to the Art of Seduction and humanly impossible to explain here in mere words.
Anyway, it's possible to get her, however, I feel its useless getting someone who play mental games. I would prefer someone more appreciative and more sincere.
Cheers -
I reckon 4 GENERAL possibilities here... (of course in actual fact, there're more than just these four....)Originally posted by GHoST_18:actually i did tell her... she said me liked me too.... but she is afraid of commitment n she dun wanna hurt me... she said i m the last person on earth she wanna hurt...
haiz... it's so strange.. it's juz that something in her tat made me fall head over heels wif her...
1. She could be someone who don't go for commitment in a relationship.
2. She could have hurt someone quite badly in a relationship before.
3. She likes you, but she's uncertain if the level of likeness she have for you can be defined as LOVE.
4. She sense your overwhelming love for her and is afraid that she might not be able to return it in the same amplitude.
It could very well be due to other reasons not identified above. But from what you've expressed, the more likelihood as above.
If you don't mind telling me her horoscope, your horoscope, both your age, and how long have you known each other? -
she must be very young then... she wants all the attention but not the commitment... she's a curious girl...
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Originally posted by Devil1976:
hmm... she had a bad experience wif her ex... she was devastated by the broke-up... but she was ok when i met her....
I reckon [b]4 GENERAL possibilities here... (of course in actual fact, there're more than just these four....)
1. She could be someone who don't go for commitment in a relationship.
2. She could have hurt someone quite badly in a relationship before.
3. She likes you, but she's uncertain if the level of likeness she have for you can be defined as LOVE.
4. She sense your overwhelming love for her and is afraid that she might not be able to return it in the same amplitude.
It could very well be due to other reasons not identified above. But from what you've expressed, the more likelihood as above.
If you don't mind telling me her horoscope, your horoscope, both your age, and how long have you known each other?[/b]
we r in our mid 20s... knew her for some time liao.... shes an aquarius n im a pisces.... haiz... how huh...??? -
now abit confused liao
she had bad experience
so does it mean she dun wanna get hurt
or she dun wanna hurt u???
if u realli like her, tell her dat this wnt do it
watz the point of being together but when ppl ask, u say u r not an item
i believe u haf told her u like her n want her to be ur gf
but since she doesnt wanna
personally, i will draw the line with her
cos it not juz u whoz getting hurt, shez not clear herself
n she hurting herselg as well
at least when u are apart, she will tink properly whether she wantz u
rather den hanging on lik tiz, ban tian diao
but rem, do wat ur instict tell u, cos it will never lie
itz juz the emotion part datz abit tricky -
wah, serious or not??Originally posted by Yunhaier:In the 3th Law of the Art of Seduction - sending mixed message are used to confuse and disarm victims. The Ultimate psychological tricks woman loved to use is ren-ren-you-xi-wang-ke-ke-mei-ji-hui (everybody has hope, nobody got chance) theory.
got such thg as the Art of Seduction arh??
i thot oni say say 1 -
Art of Seduction, Art of Girlfriend/Boyfriend stealer, 48 laws of power, 36 Strategy, CloUdiSm Remix III, etc.Originally posted by nooki:wah, serious or not??
got such thg as the Art of Seduction arh??
i thot oni say say 1 And many others - Of course, there is such things. -
hmm... how is it that u are in fact the master and she is the jester? when in the end.. u 2 are still not commited and tts wat u want
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She's probably taking the back seat for the relationship now. How long ago was her bad experience?Originally posted by GHoST_18:hmm... she had a bad experience wif her ex... she was devastated by the broke-up... but she was ok when i met her....
we r in our mid 20s... knew her for some time liao.... shes an aquarius n im a pisces.... haiz... how huh...???
From SURFACE DEDUCTION,
You can probably melt her heart if you take a slow approach. She'll take alot of giving in. She could also be on a TEST MODE. Testing how sincere you are in getting her to be your gf. But DO take note? Jealousy is probably PART of her, whether she's really into you or not. Though, likelihood is that she would only get really jealous for someone she's really interested in.
She'll needs freedom. You'll need to express that inspirational and special side of you to get her interest and attention.