Happiness is nothing but a carrot
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yes... a carrot dangled in front of us mules. drones. donkeys. lemmings.
we are led on by life's biggest lie. To continue its own survival.. this thing called life, feeds us with the biggest carrot of all that drives us forward... keeps us ticking... and thus...does life's bidding....
come on u happy people... challenge my notion... -
Well, if I was given a choice of either the carrot or hay, I'd eat the carrot.
At least it's juicier, more delicious and nutritious.
We're all given a life each.
It's your own life. You choose the way you want to live it.
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life is what you make of it..
if you wanna be a lemming, you're a lemming.. that is, you do not take responsibility for your own life... but if you're happy without causing others to be unhappy, could that be a choice in itself?
if you choose to take life and live it, and let it be fulfilling, who are others to say different?
carrot? stick? whatever.... -
Life is short.
If you know what you want in life, but never go out to achieve it, then, you are the world's biggest fool.
If you know what you want in life, and you go all out to achieve it, even if you fail, you will never regret it, coz you know you have tried.
If you dun even know what you want in life and whats missing in your life, then, you are ignorance.
Ignorance is Bliss... for, you never know what you have missed out... -
haiz...dunno if i should take e red pill or e green pill.....
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i'm not here to debate over that nonsense that "life is what you make it out to be"
i've heard it too many times but frankly, it doesn't answer the question
so life is what you make it out to be. U really believe in that stigma? come on... its fed to u by people who are "happy" and couldn't really be bothered by what you're really going thru. so just one sentence is gonna save the world's problems? BULLSHIT... that's nonsense... life is never what you make it out to be... u can try... but in the end... inevitably.. u will fail... those that have "made it" psssht... dun delude yourself... -
So you reckon we should all end our lives prematurely instead?Originally posted by Farmer Brown:i'm not here to debate over that nonsense that "life is what you make it out to be"
i've heard it too many times but frankly, it doesn't answer the question
so life is what you make it out to be. U really believe in that stigma? come on... its fed to u by people who are "happy" and couldn't really be bothered by what you're really going thru. so just one sentence is gonna save the world's problems? BULLSHIT... that's nonsense... life is never what you make it out to be... u can try... but in the end... inevitably.. u will fail... those that have "made it" psssht... dun delude yourself...
There's no way you can convince everyone to die with you.
Once a person ends his life before his time is up, it's bound to cause some form of hurt to the people around him. Even if it's a vagrant who doesn't know anybody/whom nobody knows. Because the peeps who're gonna pick up his body are going to feel upset by the death of an unfortunate.
Since you can't leave this world without creating more problems, the sensible way is to live it to the end.
There are good things, there are bad things. We all can't avoid misfortunes, even the most fortunate. So why focus on it and make yourself suffer?
When you have problems, the best way to run away from it is to solve it. It takes time. Even if it takes alot of time, attempting to solve the problem can make you feel better because as you try to do so, you see the problem shrinking, albeit by a minute bit. -
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Being happy, is really a simple decision.Originally posted by Farmer Brown:i'm not here to debate over that nonsense that "life is what you make it out to be"
i've heard it too many times but frankly, it doesn't answer the question
so life is what you make it out to be. U really believe in that stigma? come on... its fed to u by people who are "happy" and couldn't really be bothered by what you're really going thru. so just one sentence is gonna save the world's problems? BULLSHIT... that's nonsense... life is never what you make it out to be... u can try... but in the end... inevitably.. u will fail... those that have "made it" psssht... dun delude yourself...
When you have gone through the pain of seeing your loved ones die before you, you will treasure the meaninfg of life, and how it is important to make yourself happy.
Are you not happy? -
mooku...
yea i think death would cause a ripple of sadness to reverbrate thru one's circle.. regardless whether or not his/her time is up. i'm not talking about problems. i'm not asking you all to lie down and let your problems roll over u. i'm giving a very cynical perspective of how life misleads all of us.
don't get me wrong. i'm a sucker for happiness as well. and i have to admit unless i find a better alternative to being a donkey or having to kill myself, i'm just going to continue living this one big lie, fighting it all the way. i'm not going to delude myself with bouts of happiness or bliss. i'll take it as it comes cause it sure feels damn good. but don't u all think, at the end of it all, we're living one big lie? chasing a non-existant intangible carrot?
donjng:
i emphathise if you've lost a loved one. but that's no way to motivate yourself to be happy. isn't it ironic if u actually use a closed one's death to motivate yourself? think about it.. the ultimate suffering for the drive to find happiness.. i would rather do without the happiness if i could keep my loved one alive. i dun need my family members to die to realise the importance of living.
but what are we really living for? what do you guys live for?
some live day by day
others live for longer periods and plan ahead. but it all comes to nought. i'm not even talking about death. i'm talking about never being satisfied. never being happy. how many of us can actually declare now that they've attained a state of pure bliss? a prolonged state i mean. that few moments at the altar when your better half slips that ring on your finger, the moment of joy when u see your child being born, basking in the evening sun as you watch your kids play with their gorgeous mother from the driver's seat of a ferrari modena.
tangible or intangible. these moments just don't last long enough. worst still for some, they never arrive. if we can't live to see that state of prolonged bliss we all so often dream of, at least we can try can't we?
i'm very inclined to say BULLSHIT to the paragraph above. but i would be hypocritical if i did. I'm after all, still in the midst of my pursuit for tangible happiness. personally, i dun give a damn if i ever experience the intangible lies that life has to offer. I used to be that fool that dreamt that all you needed was love.
but now, i've come to realise, i dun need that kind of lie...i would rather do without the happiness if i could do without all the suffering that comes with it. my friends may not know this.. but i've transformed from being a passionate, emotional dreamer to a cold hard human being ready and capable to exact the most ruthless acts in order to get what he wants. i may not leave this life fulfilled... but at least i know... i've given myself the best life anyone can get.
ever wonder why life and lie are all too similar? -
Farmer see PM....
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Hmm... Now I'm kinda at a loss? I don't know to reply to the above 1st... The ones which I've not quoted or just talk about 'carrots'?Originally posted by Farmer Brown:i'm very inclined to say BULLSHIT to the paragraph above. but i would be hypocritical if i did. I'm after all, still in the midst of my pursuit for tangible happiness. personally, i dun give a damn if i ever experience the intangible lies that life has to offer. I used to be that fool that dreamt that all you needed was love. but now, i've come to realise, i dun need that kind of lie...i would rather do without the happiness if i could do without all the suffering that comes with it. my friends may not know this.. but i've transformed from being a passionate, emotional dreamer to a cold hard human being ready and capable to exact the most ruthless acts in order to get what he wants. i may not leave this life fulfilled... but at least i know... i've given myself the best life anyone can get.
ever wonder why life and lie are all too similar?
Ok... Let's just start off with carrots... 'Carrots' keeps us very much healthy and alive... And it's not just about 'power'... Yeah... It's just about 'carrots'... Medically proven and evidence over the place... 'Carrots' can also leads to a WHOLE LOT of other good things... Like being more civilised.. Less brutuality... Well... In a way? Depending on how you get your 'carrots'? And others are not robbed of their 'carrots' in the process?
Then I wanna talk about... What do you know?? MORE 'CARROTS'.... OH MY GOD, are they TASTY or WHAT?? " You've mentioned that people can't be satisfied and this is all a BIG lie... Yeah... In a way, it's a lie... And you certainly don't agree with 'it's how you wanna see it'?
I wanna share a bit of my life with you... For one, I'm a Devil with 'carrots'... Regarding your 'proposal' of a 'prolonged happiness'... Well... It's REALLY how you see?? My life is FULL of VEGETABLES... Today I can carrot... The next day I can tomato... The world where got so many 'carrots' for all to eat?? (Ssh, you must be KIDDING ME? <> ") But when I can tomato or potato... If I'm CONTENTED, they can still taste AS GOOD AS 'carrots' 
And life is not all about 'carrots' you see..? Who needs a prolonged supply of 'carrots' anyway?? (eat until you SICK and VOMIT...) It's actually all the other vegetables... The challenges and failures coming in together with the 'carrots' which makes life SO INTERESTING...
MAN... Won't it would be a VERY DAMN IDEA if humans are just born into this world to 'eat carrots'?
Might as well be RABBITS?? ~WAHAHAhahaha... <>
And here's to the reply to your quote in BLUE.... I was ONCE (or maybe more than that...) at a CROSS POINT like you have... And my decision on where I should be heading... And in the end, I was a bit like you... A DEVIL... At least during that very moment I was having that form of mentality... A PURE BREED...
Until I've come to understand and realise what it really means to be a Devil... And understand the 'power' of mystery 'love'... Don't misunderstand me, I'm still on the way of 'research' though?>
But I've already come to realise... LOVE... HAPPINESS... 'Carrots'... CLOSELY CONNECTED... Is probably crucial to this world's proper evolution and survival... IN FACT, I was even on a question related to 'carrots' the night before and this morning?!
PS. If you can't do anything about it, why complain? If you CAN do something about it... Why wait? -
yes its true. we live each day only cos we noe theres the next dae, and the dae after tt... jus like we walk up and down the stairs, knowing tt each step we take there is the next step, and the next...Originally posted by Farmer Brown:yes... a carrot dangled in front of us mules. drones. donkeys. lemmings.
we are led on by life's biggest lie. To continue its own survival.. this thing called life, feeds us with the biggest carrot of all that drives us forward... keeps us ticking... and thus...does life's bidding....
come on u happy people... challenge my notion...
well since this is the basic assumption, the universal truth, its up to us to decide HOW we live our daes.
we can choose to live them in misery, one dae after another till our death bed.
we can choose to live them happily, bringing a smile to our coffins.
i would rather choose the latter, if given the choice.
anyway its ur life. u control how u wan to live it, and if u wan to live it at all. -
You definitely dun need someone's death to realise the importance of happiness...
We, of course, live for ourselves...
It's easy to be happy...
Why are you not?
Is there nothing in the world right now, that can make you happy?
Or maybe, you are going through a hard patch now that nothing can make you happy at this moment? I hope that this is what you are feeling now, or else, how would you be able to live in sadness all your life? -
devil... i hate vegetables.. really. hahaha
you're nuts. If carrot is happiness, what does that make tomato? is there an alternative to happiness?
wuming.
one step looks like the other. and the other. and the other. thats why i said we were lemmings... we just follow.. won't it be nice to be able to not use the steps and just soar? i'm just like all of u. just a lil less optimistic. i've come to terms long ago that the LIE gives me no choice but to go on living day by day. which i have been doing. and i admit i get suckered by the carrot dangled in front of me all the time.
wuming, are u satisfied with your life? -
it would be damn sad if i dun find happiness in anything.. haha.. things like my gaming, shows and stuff, music etc etc... but its the overall happiness that i'm searching for. all these lil happiness, though still carrots, are just baby carrots strewn around for us to find. i want the big one. the one that i can't finish on my own and am forced to share it with everyone...Originally posted by donjng:You definitely dun need someone's death to realise the importance of happiness...
We, of course, live for ourselves...
It's easy to be happy...
Why are you not?
Is there nothing in the world right now, that can make you happy?
Or maybe, you are going through a hard patch now that nothing can make you happy at this moment? I hope that this is what you are feeling now, or else, how would you be able to live in sadness all your life? -
am i satisfied? o cos not. the dissatisfaction with the status quo makes us progress doesnt it?Originally posted by Farmer Brown:devil... i hate vegetables.. really. hahaha
you're nuts. If carrot is happiness, what does that make tomato? is there an alternative to happiness?
wuming.
one step looks like the other. and the other. and the other. thats why i said we were lemmings... we just follow.. won't it be nice to be able to not use the steps and just soar? i'm just like all of u. just a lil less optimistic. i've come to terms long ago that the LIE gives me no choice but to go on living day by day. which i have been doing. and i admit i get suckered by the carrot dangled in front of me all the time.
wuming, are u satisfied with your life?
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so why are you unhappy?
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FB,
Probably u feel this way is b'cos u haven't find what makes u happy?
Always searching? still searching? given up ?
Have you ever 'tasted the carrot of happiness'?
If you have tasted it and get to like it, u may unknowingly/knowingly chase after the elusive carrot. -
Tomato is just what you make out of it... Just like your carrot...Originally posted by Farmer Brown:devil... i hate vegetables.. really. hahaha
you're nuts. If carrot is happiness, what does that make tomato? is there an alternative to happiness? -
... By the way.. Alternative to 'happiness' is 'fulfillment'....
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wuming:
i think progress thru dissatisfaction is something which applies to areas like your financial situation or personal success. i don' think it can apply to your emotional side.. just because you have the drive to improve it doesn't mean you'll be successful...can you?
silyme:
why? i'm not sure if i've got the complete answer.. i do know that i'm not feeling any sense of fulfillment, achievement, success and maybe therefore, happiness. But on the other hand, i guess the past year has been pretty lousy. I'm feeling this lack of companionship. it doesn't stop at being single but extends to platonic relationships as well. I guess my friends have all been busy and after the JC phase, they've all got their own lives to lead either in skools or whilst serving NS. likewise, though i've got really crazy people back in camp to waste our youth away(haha) i just can't connect with them the same way i do with friends i've found out of the army circle. On top of that, i guess the lack of new people in my life contributes to that... thanx to the army( i know i shouldn be blaming it..) my social circle has narrowed to the size of a fifty cent coin. and that's pretty big already.. haha
Magnus:
I was previously happy...when i was with HER. i dun deny it.. but things turned bad and i can never attain that level of happiness with her again. not that i wish to anyway. other then that, i dun recall having tasted a carrot as juicy. i'm hoping there's a bigger redder and more tasty one (i dun just refer to girls, i'm referring to happiness in general)
am i still searching for it? i dunno. i've denounced happiness before yet i still crave it. so i guess that i'm still searchin for it but in a more dormant manner.
Devil:
yeesh... i really dun like vege... and the alternative to happiness...fulfillment.. hmm
doesn't happiness often tag along? or they go hand in hand? or they even have a menge trios with success? i guess i will feel happy when i'm fulfilled.. and i'll be fulfilled when i attain success... but till then... since i have no success... therefore no fulfillment... am i entitled to feel unhappy?
even happiness derived from fulfillment is temporary. i think i'm searching for happiness of the contentment type. to be contented with life. i dun need fulfillment... i want contentment. but i dun forsee myself ever achieving contentment with life.. therefore i'm striving for fufillment...as mentioned in one of my earlier posts... haha devil.. u helped me summarise what my take on life is at the moment.. thanx...(its in bold u dimwit) -
Originally posted by Farmer Brown:
Devil:
doesn't happiness often tag along? or they go hand in hand? or they even have a menge trios with success?
Not necessarily... Though I admit.. Often it does?
i guess i will feel happy when i'm fulfilled.. and i'll be fulfilled when i attain success...
It's not necessarily a happy thing to attain success... Though often the case as success would usually bring about fulfillment or sense of satisfaction....
Take for example... If you manage to bring up a pair of chopsticks to feed yourself (provided that you're already used to using them), would you be extremely happy? Probably not, because you're EXPECTED to be able to do that.. Thus it pose as no surprise nor challenge that you could do it...
On the other hand, if you're someone who's with a bit of physical handicap... And you MANAGED to feed yourself with it.. There'll be 'sense of satisfaction'...
And some things done would actually be accompanied by more than one form of 'affection'... Maybe you managed to achieve something.. And you're happy about it.. But then you have to sacrifice someone which is what you're unwilling to do... There'll be a 'plus / minus' effect or sometimes mixed feelings...
Of course, there're also some people who downplay the part where they actually need to hurt others in the process.. In order to better taste 'the fruit of fulfillment'? Well... This can actually be a very long and windy story.. Think I'll just stop here for now?
but till then... since i have no success... therefore no fulfillment... am i entitled to feel unhappy?
Nope. You're not 'entitled' to it... It's quite VERY UNLIKELY that there'll be one person living on earth with 'zero success'... For being alive itself is already at least one 'success'? Feeding yourself? Able to walk? To talk? Yes... The 'fulfillment' varies though? That's why it's often how you choose to see things?
even happiness derived from fulfillment is temporary. i think i'm searching for happiness of the contentment type. to be contented with life.
'Fulfillment' can of a constant achieval type too? And yes.. Like you've mentioned, very often most of them should be quite temporary...
To be contented with life is actually very much of your own mindset? Which is what the others have been trying to tell you all along?
i dun need fulfillment... i want contentment. but i dun forsee myself ever achieving contentment with life.. therefore i'm striving for fufillment...as mentioned in one of my earlier posts... haha devil.. u helped me summarise what my take on life is at the moment.. thanx...(its in bold u dimwit)
To tell you the truth... I don't see myself being able to achieve contentment with life too in the many years back? And the truth is, you can never really give a 100% prediction for the future... That's why it's called the 'future' you see?
If you want something, you'll have to work for it.... Which kinda reminds me of your post to the others? Want 'happiness' but reluctant to it? Just like a man who wants to know the taste of a carrot but reluctant to put it in his mouth... Hmm... What to do? -
just watched troy today and something Achilles said to erm...wots that girls name... Hector's cousin... nvm... he said this:
"Everything is more beautiful because we are mortals"
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"You can never be lovelier then u are now (in reference to death)
hmmm......