tell C the truth lah, short term pain is better than long term pain.Originally posted by picachu:I got a friend same age as me, 22 (my sch mate).
He asked me a question bcos my gf and me 7 years already and doing fine, and he feel I will be more experience and mature to handle his question. But I am quite stunned by his question and dunno how also. i told him I will need few days to think carefully b4 can advice him.
Mr A is with his gf, B for 3 years already.
Mr A is studying in NTU year 3, and his gf is working.
He recently know this ger, C through friends. She is our sch mate also but different course. This ger just graduted few months(May 2004) ago bcos she is 4th year already when they got to know each other in March 2004.
This ger C duno he have a gf. Initially they are just sch mates who have common ECA. Then they started to spend some time together to do some projects for the ECAs and as time goes by, they develop feeling for each other. But they both never admitted. Until got one time, ger C ask my fren "Am I considered your gf?" My friend was stunned, he wanted to say "Yes" but for a moment, he thought of his gfm he hold back his words. He is confused whether he really loved this ger or its only a crush. He just smile and never answer. Can see that Ger C is quite sad.
For few days they never talk or meet each other. My friend missed Ger C and he sms her to meet for lunch. Then they met in sch. Ger C asked again. My friend duno why (he tell me he duno why also and thats his biggest mistake, if he answered NO firmly, things will not be like that today) he answered "can be considered ba". And the ger smile. Like this they become bf/gf without ger B knowing. They did everything in sch together, eat, study and prepare exam. Just like what normal BF/GF will do.
Then before my fren has his last paper. He decided to end the wrongful relationship becos he find that its unfair to ger B. But he cannot find the courage to tell ger C. He say he is scare to hurt ger C if she duno he already have a gf. Even if she know, he is afraid what if ger C still want to be with him even if she know he has a GF.
My friend seems to have a feeling ger C is also aware he already have a gf. But she pretend duno. (My friend is not sure whether ger C know he have a gf or not until today). After his last paper, he went home while ger C continue to study for her last paper few years later. Ger C is sad that he never accompany her study for her last paper. My friend is also sad, but he is trying hard, endure the pain to end this relationship. But anyway time passed.
Exam over, ger C failed a module. And had to retake the module this semester. My friend also failed one. Maybe its retribution (my friend say). Although ger C has contacted my friend a few time during holiday to eat lunch or dinner, and they went out a few time, things were not very happy although they never quarrel. They just went out to eat, then go home. Neither speak about how come things sour in between suddenly. They just enjoy each other's company and they can feel they missed each other a lot. For that moments, my friend say he dont care already, he just wan to enjoy his time with her, dont care whether they are still BF/GF or not.
Then school reopens. Ger C never come to school. She is only required to take exam again. My friend A was busy studying with me (same class). Actually my friend tell me he intended to come clean with the ger C and admit and ask for her forgiveness, but he dont have the courage to approach ger C. Ger C also know that my friend is avoiding her during the holiday, so she also never bother to look for my friend anymore, she is giving up. The last time a sms was exchange is my friend asking her for lunch when school reopen (my fren miss her, wana see her, oh my god!, I dun understand my fren :< ). The ger C replied "thanks for the offer, I am busy, going gym to work out later on" Then my friend thought she is angry due to him avoiding her for the past few months, so he thought maybe its better to let it be and let her hate him forever. So he never contact her until now. And she also never contacted him.
My friend is afraid if he tell her that he also love her but cannot be with her due to ger B, she will be moved and might want to come back to be with my friend. Then my friend will be back in the situation whether to hurt ger B by ending the 3 years relationship or hurt ger C by saying the relationship is not possible due to his commitment with ger B. My friend is seriously very confused. So am I.
Exams is coming again. My friend and I is busy studying this few days throghout the nights in school. He was reminded how he studied thtough the nights with ger C in the school. He is very sad. And it was during one of the supper time, when he expressed his troubles to me. he is feeling very guilty towards ger C now. He feels like meeting ger C. But duno whether he should do it. And if meet, what should he do or say?
Anyone know how should he solve this?
Should he contact ger C and admit everything and say sorry?
Or should he let it be and forget everything and be with ger B like nothing happened?
He cant have the best of both worlds.. Truth hurts but lying is worse!.. its better to say it out.. then one day..both girls found out what exactly happen.. and everything jus end so badly.. He will even feel more guilty by hurting both at the same time.. and losing them too.. one as a gf.. or another as a friend.. (whoever it is)..Originally posted by picachu:I got a friend same age as me, 22 (my sch mate).
He asked me a question bcos my gf and me 7 years already and doing fine, and he feel I will be more experience and mature to handle his question. But I am quite stunned by his question and dunno how also. i told him I will need few days to think carefully b4 can advice him.
Mr A is with his gf, B for 3 years already.
Mr A is studying in NTU year 3, and his gf is working.
He recently know this ger, C through friends. She is our sch mate also but different course. This ger just graduted few months(May 2004) ago bcos she is 4th year already when they got to know each other in March 2004.
This ger C duno he have a gf. Initially they are just sch mates who have common ECA. Then they started to spend some time together to do some projects for the ECAs and as time goes by, they develop feeling for each other. But they both never admitted. Until got one time, ger C ask my fren "Am I considered your gf?" My friend was stunned, he wanted to say "Yes" but for a moment, he thought of his gfm he hold back his words. He is confused whether he really loved this ger or its only a crush. He just smile and never answer. Can see that Ger C is quite sad.
For few days they never talk or meet each other. My friend missed Ger C and he sms her to meet for lunch. Then they met in sch. Ger C asked again. My friend duno why (he tell me he duno why also and thats his biggest mistake, if he answered NO firmly, things will not be like that today) he answered "can be considered ba". And the ger smile. Like this they become bf/gf without ger B knowing. They did everything in sch together, eat, study and prepare exam. Just like what normal BF/GF will do.
Then before my fren has his last paper. He decided to end the wrongful relationship becos he find that its unfair to ger B. But he cannot find the courage to tell ger C. He say he is scare to hurt ger C if she duno he already have a gf. Even if she know, he is afraid what if ger C still want to be with him even if she know he has a GF.
My friend seems to have a feeling ger C is also aware he already have a gf. But she pretend duno. (My friend is not sure whether ger C know he have a gf or not until today). After his last paper, he went home while ger C continue to study for her last paper few years later. Ger C is sad that he never accompany her study for her last paper. My friend is also sad, but he is trying hard, endure the pain to end this relationship. But anyway time passed.
Exam over, ger C failed a module. And had to retake the module this semester. My friend also failed one. Maybe its retribution (my friend say). Although ger C has contacted my friend a few time during holiday to eat lunch or dinner, and they went out a few time, things were not very happy although they never quarrel. They just went out to eat, then go home. Neither speak about how come things sour in between suddenly. They just enjoy each other's company and they can feel they missed each other a lot. For that moments, my friend say he dont care already, he just wan to enjoy his time with her, dont care whether they are still BF/GF or not.
Then school reopens. Ger C never come to school. She is only required to take exam again. My friend A was busy studying with me (same class). Actually my friend tell me he intended to come clean with the ger C and admit and ask for her forgiveness, but he dont have the courage to approach ger C. Ger C also know that my friend is avoiding her during the holiday, so she also never bother to look for my friend anymore, she is giving up. The last time a sms was exchange is my friend asking her for lunch when school reopen (my fren miss her, wana see her, oh my god!, I dun understand my fren :< ). The ger C replied "thanks for the offer, I am busy, going gym to work out later on" Then my friend thought she is angry due to him avoiding her for the past few months, so he thought maybe its better to let it be and let her hate him forever. So he never contact her until now. And she also never contacted him.
My friend is afraid if he tell her that he also love her but cannot be with her due to ger B, she will be moved and might want to come back to be with my friend. Then my friend will be back in the situation whether to hurt ger B by ending the 3 years relationship or hurt ger C by saying the relationship is not possible due to his commitment with ger B. My friend is seriously very confused. So am I.
Exams is coming again. My friend and I is busy studying this few days throghout the nights in school. He was reminded how he studied thtough the nights with ger C in the school. He is very sad. And it was during one of the supper time, when he expressed his troubles to me. he is feeling very guilty towards ger C now. He feels like meeting ger C. But duno whether he should do it. And if meet, what should he do or say?
Anyone know how should he solve this?
Should he contact ger C and admit everything and say sorry?
Or should he let it be and forget everything and be with ger B like nothing happened?
Now, he got himself in such a state. How could he step on 2 boats at a same time? As a fren, i understand ur view point to help him. I actually suspect whether u ar actually the person involved. I give u the benefit of the doubt.Originally posted by picachu:I got a friend same age as me, 22 (my sch mate).
He asked me a question bcos my gf and me 7 years already and doing fine, and he feel I will be more experience and mature to handle his question. But I am quite stunned by his question and dunno how also. i told him I will need few days to think carefully b4 can advice him.
Mr A is with his gf, B for 3 years already.
Mr A is studying in NTU year 3, and his gf is working.
He recently know this ger, C through friends. She is our sch mate also but different course. This ger just graduted few months(May 2004) ago bcos she is 4th year already when they got to know each other in March 2004.
This ger C duno he have a gf. Initially they are just sch mates who have common ECA. Then they started to spend some time together to do some projects for the ECAs and as time goes by, they develop feeling for each other. But they both never admitted. Until got one time, ger C ask my fren "Am I considered your gf?" My friend was stunned, he wanted to say "Yes" but for a moment, he thought of his gfm he hold back his words. He is confused whether he really loved this ger or its only a crush. He just smile and never answer. Can see that Ger C is quite sad.
For few days they never talk or meet each other. My friend missed Ger C and he sms her to meet for lunch. Then they met in sch. Ger C asked again. My friend duno why (he tell me he duno why also and thats his biggest mistake, if he answered NO firmly, things will not be like that today) he answered "can be considered ba". And the ger smile. Like this they become bf/gf without ger B knowing. They did everything in sch together, eat, study and prepare exam. Just like what normal BF/GF will do.
Then before my fren has his last paper. He decided to end the wrongful relationship becos he find that its unfair to ger B. But he cannot find the courage to tell ger C. He say he is scare to hurt ger C if she duno he already have a gf. Even if she know, he is afraid what if ger C still want to be with him even if she know he has a GF.
My friend seems to have a feeling ger C is also aware he already have a gf. But she pretend duno. (My friend is not sure whether ger C know he have a gf or not until today). After his last paper, he went home while ger C continue to study for her last paper few years later. Ger C is sad that he never accompany her study for her last paper. My friend is also sad, but he is trying hard, endure the pain to end this relationship. But anyway time passed.
Exam over, ger C failed a module. And had to retake the module this semester. My friend also failed one. Maybe its retribution (my friend say). Although ger C has contacted my friend a few time during holiday to eat lunch or dinner, and they went out a few time, things were not very happy although they never quarrel. They just went out to eat, then go home. Neither speak about how come things sour in between suddenly. They just enjoy each other's company and they can feel they missed each other a lot. For that moments, my friend say he dont care already, he just wan to enjoy his time with her, dont care whether they are still BF/GF or not.
Then school reopens. Ger C never come to school. She is only required to take exam again. My friend A was busy studying with me (same class). Actually my friend tell me he intended to come clean with the ger C and admit and ask for her forgiveness, but he dont have the courage to approach ger C. Ger C also know that my friend is avoiding her during the holiday, so she also never bother to look for my friend anymore, she is giving up. The last time a sms was exchange is my friend asking her for lunch when school reopen (my fren miss her, wana see her, oh my god!, I dun understand my fren :< ). The ger C replied "thanks for the offer, I am busy, going gym to work out later on" Then my friend thought she is angry due to him avoiding her for the past few months, so he thought maybe its better to let it be and let her hate him forever. So he never contact her until now. And she also never contacted him.
My friend is afraid if he tell her that he also love her but cannot be with her due to ger B, she will be moved and might want to come back to be with my friend. Then my friend will be back in the situation whether to hurt ger B by ending the 3 years relationship or hurt ger C by saying the relationship is not possible due to his commitment with ger B. My friend is seriously very confused. So am I.
Exams is coming again. My friend and I is busy studying this few days throghout the nights in school. He was reminded how he studied thtough the nights with ger C in the school. He is very sad. And it was during one of the supper time, when he expressed his troubles to me. he is feeling very guilty towards ger C now. He feels like meeting ger C. But duno whether he should do it. And if meet, what should he do or say?
Anyone know how should he solve this?
Should he contact ger C and admit everything and say sorry?
Or should he let it be and forget everything and be with ger B like nothing happened?
Well said!Originally posted by Devil1976:1st thing... Ask your friend to WAKE UP.
There CAN'T be GOOD ACTIONS without GOOD CHOICES made. And no good choices made without a CLEAR thought. Confused? I think he've SINK ENOUGH. INNOCENT is only of the 2 girls who might have to SINK with him.
He shouldn't only be thinking about WHAT HE WANT. But also, what would happen to the other involved parties and what would they want? He's confused probably because he know that his path has ALREADY STRAYED. Whatever he plans for, just might not fit into the PICTURE.
The 'simplest' of methods. AT LEAST let girl C knows about the truth. Probably get a CLEAN BREAK from there. If there can't be one, that would only mean that girl B would have to be INVOLVED TOO. Only if both girls agree to share him (which is quite unlikely in his scenerio), would things be settled in an 'all-rounded' way. Else, he'll just have to FACE the CONSEQUENCES.
HURT, PAIN.. WHATEVER... I ONLY PITY the GIRLS... If he wanna CREATE SOMETHING, he should KNOW how to END IT... His current MENTALITY? ASK him to WAKE UP... OTHERWISE HE SERIOUSLY DON'T DESERVES ANY HELP...
Note. Try to settle with girl C 1st. If really can't then get girl B involved.
U are asking ur fren to break with her gf???? I think its better for ur fren to decide wat he wants to do and not u telling him to just go and break. Dun make things worse than it aready is. In this world there is this thing called cooling off period. Ask ur fren to make full use of it.Originally posted by picachu:Hi...my fren never come to school this few days.
But hope he is studying well.
I never tell him what to do yet.
I scare he is studying and I reminded him of this and he will lost his mood to study again.
I will tell him after the exam or if he asked me what to do again.
Thanks for the help guys and gers.
I think I will tell him to come clean with Ger C first and then ask for Ger C forgiveness. Then for Ger B, I will ask him to break with her first. Then think carefully and see whether he is ready to start afresh or he rather stay single.
Originally posted by shaunlaw:U are asking ur fren to break with her gf???? I think its better for ur fren to decide wat he wants to do and not u telling him to just go and break. Dun make things worse than it aready is. In this world there is this thing called cooling off period. Ask ur fren to make full use of it.
Originally posted by the_don:ah... i think i watch too much OC (Orange County)..... eh wait.. i am giving away the plot!!! kekekeke