week 23/6/03
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general schoolchildren these days, those i meet sometimes, those on this forum...
many have no views on anything at all...
maybe Neil Humphreys was right.. the typical Singaporean child could not carry a conversation about anything other than schoolwork...
more than that, there's something missing in them that, to me is vital in a child.. that spark.. that something undefinable...
seems like they are nothing more than automatrons now... whose only goal is to achieve the "A"s and after that, nothing... make a whole heap of money...
something happened.. few have dreams to aspire to anymore... that spark is gone... with it, they seem to have "dumbed down"...
i worry... in recent postings by 15 year olds, esp. shinyboy and invaa, one is incapable of critical thought whatsoever, the other is incapable of doing anything for himself except whine about his lot in life (which isn't bad at all)...
i've seen children of pretty well-to-do families whine.. how their folks will not give them the latest mobile phone, how the teacher was terrible to them when they failed their test, when they played hooky... no one has the sense of personal responsibility anymore...
this makes me worried...
in a place where no one dreams or when dreams are suppressed, the people cease to think for themselves... and replace their hopes and dreams with material things, hoping to fill that void in their lives... and they become unthinking, jaded, materialistic...
does that sound familiar?Originally posted by sillyme:what are u referring to? -
of cuz lah..Originally posted by oceanic:but good figs better looking mah hehe
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eh he seen b4 liao lolOriginally posted by skinnybeanie:hmmm... wonder if jOhO will ask for ocean's pic after reading this thread... -
rojak here was nice..Originally posted by skinnybeanie:i had rojak yday at tiong bahru.
today ex boss buys me Katsudon - wah, very salty, didn't finish it
very nice n a lot too hehe -
is it??Originally posted by oceanic:eh he seen b4 liao lol
wah, things are moving fast here huh? -
no larOriginally posted by skinnybeanie:is it??
wah, things are moving fast here huh?
tat was quite some time ago i sent him e pic liao ;p -
orh.. u sent him 1st but never send me ...Originally posted by oceanic:no lar
tat was quite some time ago i sent him e pic liao ;p -
me back from lunch..had beef noodles.....den later went funan check something...
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yes bear.. it's a very disturbing trend in singapore..
kids are very well taken care oof these days.. parents give so much to their kids that they fail to realise that too much is a bad thing..
the problem with the boys i encounter are very much the same year after year.. some of them really have to be spoon-fed, without thinking skills.. so we have to teach them how to..
that's why i feel the recession/downturn maybe a good thing to jolt something in these young ppl... but sad to say, most of them carry on living without much worry.. i think when u have a life of luxury and getting what u need without much effort, u grow weak and not wanting to fight for your own well-being.. sigh..Originally posted by the Bear:general schoolchildren these days, those i meet sometimes, those on this forum...
many have no views on anything at all...
maybe Neil Humphreys was right.. the typical Singaporean child could not carry a conversation about anything other than schoolwork...
more than that, there's something missing in them that, to me is vital in a child.. that spark.. that something undefinable...
seems like they are nothing more than automatrons now... whose only goal is to achieve the "A"s and after that, nothing... make a whole heap of money...
something happened.. few have dreams to aspire to anymore... that spark is gone... with it, they seem to have "dumbed down"...
i worry... in recent postings by 15 year olds, esp. shinyboy and invaa, one is incapable of critical thought whatsoever, the other is incapable of doing anything for himself except whine about his lot in life (which isn't bad at all)...
i've seen children of pretty well-to-do families whine.. how their folks will not give them the latest mobile phone, how the teacher was terrible to them when they failed their test, when they played hooky... no one has the sense of personal responsibility anymore...
this makes me worried...
in a place where no one dreams or when dreams are suppressed, the people cease to think for themselves... and replace their hopes and dreams with material things, hoping to fill that void in their lives... and they become unthinking, jaded, materialistic...
does that sound familiar? -
the youngsters are too pampered and sheltered, unlike us, the older generationOriginally posted by sillyme:yes bear.. it's a very disturbing trend in singapore..
kids are very well taken care oof these days.. parents give so much to their kids that they fail to realise that too much is a bad thing..
the problem with the boys i encounter are very much the same year after year.. some of them really have to be spoon-fed, without thinking skills.. so we have to teach them how to..
that's why i feel the recession/downturn maybe a good thing to jolt something in these young ppl... but sad to say, most of them carry on living without much worry.. i think when u have a life of luxury and getting what u need without much effort, u grow weak and not wanting to fight for your own well-being.. sigh.. -
yap.. my generation had a good life too.. but i'm glad my parents didn't control me nor gave me too much.. i had lots of freedom yet had to decide wat is best for me..
so it's still possible to raise a good kid at this time..
one of my boys is from a single parent family.. his mum gives him lots of freedom.. no curfew.. but he had to promise his mum to study at least 4 hrs each day.. he's now one of my more 'dong shi' kids among them..Originally posted by skinnybeanie:the youngsters are too pampered and sheltered, unlike us, the older generation -
quite familiar.. do sound a lot like e kids today... my cousins e like that as well..Originally posted by the Bear:general schoolchildren these days, those i meet sometimes, those on this forum...
many have no views on anything at all...
maybe Neil Humphreys was right.. the typical Singaporean child could not carry a conversation about anything other than schoolwork...
more than that, there's something missing in them that, to me is vital in a child.. that spark.. that something undefinable...
seems like they are nothing more than automatrons now... whose only goal is to achieve the "A"s and after that, nothing... make a whole heap of money...
something happened.. few have dreams to aspire to anymore... that spark is gone... with it, they seem to have "dumbed down"...
i worry... in recent postings by 15 year olds, esp. shinyboy and invaa, one is incapable of critical thought whatsoever, the other is incapable of doing anything for himself except whine about his lot in life (which isn't bad at all)...
i've seen children of pretty well-to-do families whine.. how their folks will not give them the latest mobile phone, how the teacher was terrible to them when they failed their test, when they played hooky... no one has the sense of personal responsibility anymore...
this makes me worried...
in a place where no one dreams or when dreams are suppressed, the people cease to think for themselves... and replace their hopes and dreams with material things, hoping to fill that void in their lives... and they become unthinking, jaded, materialistic...
does that sound familiar? -
oopsOriginally posted by skinnybeanie:orh.. u sent him 1st but never send me ...
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it isn't about being pampered and sheltered.. there are those who are and still turn out very well...
i am worried because a lot do not even attempt to think for themselves... those who do not have, instead of working towards something, just wallow in self-pity... those who have, wallow in self-pity anyway...
what could the cause of all this be?
i can't say that being pampered and sheltered would cause this... i wasn't very pampered, but i was forced under some kinda shelter.. i did not accept being cut off from the world and sought at every opportunity to find out..
not the young these days.. they're content to let things be, even if they know it's dead wrong, they are apathetic to it... instead of doing something about it, they turn towards "what can we do about it?" and then wallow in that self-pity...
it is disconcerting... -
Tho' it's a common belief, i think it's not fair to say tat bad parents will bring up bad kids and vice versa. And that children from broken families tend to grow up bad.Originally posted by sillyme:yap.. my generation had a good life too.. but i'm glad my parents didn't control me nor gave me too much.. i had lots of freedom yet had to decide wat is best for me..
so it's still possible to raise a good kid at this time..
one of my boys is from a single parent family.. his mum gives him lots of freedom.. no curfew.. but he had to promise his mum to study at least 4 hrs each day.. he's now one of my more 'dong shi' kids among them..
My mum is a single parent, and i think i'm an ok kid -
Originally posted by oceanic:oops
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u got me wrong.. i'm bringing the example up, about how good parenting can bring up a chile well.. not about broekn families
Originally posted by skinnybeanie:Tho' it's a common belief, i think it's not fair to say tat bad parents will bring up bad kids and vice versa. And that children from broken families tend to grow up bad.
My mum is a single parent, and i think i'm an ok kid -
am side tracking...Originally posted by sillyme:u got me wrong.. i'm bringing the example up, about how good parenting can bring up a chile well.. not about broekn families -
this i agree... cos I also come from broken family though not divorced yet my parentsOriginally posted by skinnybeanie:Tho' it's a common belief, i think it's not fair to say tat bad parents will bring up bad kids and vice versa. And that children from broken families tend to grow up bad.
My mum is a single parent, and i think i'm an ok kid -
i think being well-sheltered and not able to stand up on their own is very related..
and maybe becos they are bombarded by the media continously and when it comes to dealing emotional problems , they do it holoywood style.. drama but no action.. but all these can be corrected with the correct role model put b4 them...Originally posted by the Bear:it isn't about being pampered and sheltered.. there are those who are and still turn out very well...
i am worried because a lot do not even attempt to think for themselves... those who do not have, instead of working towards something, just wallow in self-pity... those who have, wallow in self-pity anyway...
what could the cause of all this be?
i can't say that being pampered and sheltered would cause this... i wasn't very pampered, but i was forced under some kinda shelter.. i did not accept being cut off from the world and sought at every opportunity to find out..
not the young these days.. they're content to let things be, even if they know it's dead wrong, they are apathetic to it... instead of doing something about it, they turn towards "what can we do about it?" and then wallow in that self-pity...
it is disconcerting... -
we almost same same again...Originally posted by oceanic:this i agree... cos I also come from broken family though not divorced yet my parents -
sorry to hear so many family problem here....should count myself lucky in tat..Originally posted by oceanic:this i agree... cos I also come from broken family though not divorced yet my parents -
same boat eh?? can hug each other already..Originally posted by skinnybeanie:we almost same same again...
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this should not affect ur marriage ya??..Originally posted by skinnybeanie:we almost same same again... -
.Originally posted by skinnybeanie:we almost same same again...
sometimes really wish my mum would stand up for herself... if she divorced i will b happier honestly