Johor Bahru bus routes
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majju 262 used to rox
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its ridiculous to take CW3 from Jurong east to kotaraya.Originally posted by sbst275:Now it's left with 160 being most 'direct' somemore cheaper
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with only one bus plying the whole route, missing the bus you'll have to wait for 3 hours.Originally posted by ZYX2005:majju 262 used to rox
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arh
i din know that
wow the i guess i was very lucky to see the bus at Tuas ter back then
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That time HI say got potential, now jiak kakiOriginally posted by PJ_Quek:its ridiculous to take CW3 from Jurong east to kotaraya.
Only thing that let them survive is CW2, but dun think earn much... Driver drive 1 hr, rest 1 hr -
Today, the 262 berth number hasn't been removed properly and can still be seen at Tuas Ter.Originally posted by ZYX2005:arh
i din know that
wow the i guess i was very lucky to see the bus at Tuas ter back then
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If the calculations below are not too wrong in terms of relative figures, CW3 is probably more profitable than CW2. Besides, CW3 is a monopoly, so the ticket prices can be raised to achieve profitability without losing too many passengers.Originally posted by sbst275:That time HI say got potential, now jiak kaki
Only thing that let them survive is CW2, but dun think earn much... Driver drive 1 hr, rest 1 hrcode:
CW2
Revenue
40 passengers x 10 trips : 40 x 10 x (2.50 + (2.50 * 2.2)) / 2 = 1600 MYR
Variable cost
10 MYR fuel + 10 MYR salary for each trip,
70 trips a day : (10 + 10) x 70 = 1400 MYR
Fixed cost
2000 MYR a month per vehicle, 6 vehicles : 2000 x 6 / 30 = 400 MYR
Daily profit
1600 - 1400 - 400 = -200 MYR
CW3
Revenue
50 passengers x 15 trips : 50 x 15 x (3 + (3 x 2.2)) / 2 = 3600 MYR
Variable cost
10 MYR fuel + 15 MYR salary + 20 MYR toll charges for each trip,
70 trips a day : (10 + 15 + 20) x 70 = 3150 MYR
Fixed cost
2000 MYR a month per vehicle, 6 vehicles : 2000 x 6 / 30 = 400 MYR
Daily profit
3600 - 3150 - 400 = 50 MYR -
You cannot assume that bus is always packed especially during off peak unless it's based on till the bus is full, if that's the case freq can become like 15 - 60 mins...Originally posted by hannwei:If the calculations below are not too wrong in terms of relative figures, CW3 is probably more profitable than CW2. Besides, CW3 is a monopoly, so the ticket prices can be raised to achieve profitability without losing too many passengers.code:
CW2
Revenue
40 passengers x 10 trips : 40 x 10 x (2.50 + (2.50 * 2.2)) / 2 = 1600 MYR
Variable cost
10 MYR fuel + 10 MYR salary for each trip,
70 trips a day : (10 + 10) x 70 = 1400 MYR
Fixed cost
2000 MYR a month per vehicle, 6 vehicles : 2000 x 6 / 30 = 400 MYR
Daily profit
1600 - 1400 - 400 = -200 MYR
CW3
Revenue
50 passengers x 15 trips : 50 x 15 x (3 + (3 x 2.2)) / 2 = 3600 MYR
Variable cost
10 MYR fuel + 15 MYR salary + 20 MYR toll charges for each trip,
70 trips a day : (10 + 15 + 20) x 70 = 3150 MYR
Fixed cost
2000 MYR a month per vehicle, 6 vehicles : 2000 x 6 / 30 = 400 MYR
Daily profit
3600 - 3150 - 400 = 50 MYR
Another thing is this, buses left idle due to long breaks, the buses could well be redeployed to introduce other JB services instead -
The calculations assume CW2 has 10 trips full every day, and the other 60 trips are empty. Similarly, CW3 is assumed to have 15 trips with moderate passenger volume, and the other 55 trips are empty. The 10 and 15 are peak-hour trips. It is assumed that off-peak revenues are comparable to one another.Originally posted by sbst275:You cannot assume that bus is always packed especially during off peak unless it's based on till the bus is full, if that's the case freq can become like 15 - 60 mins...
With reduced frequencies during off-peak hours, the variable costs of both services reduce, but the cost reduction is probably more apparent in the case of CW3, due to the considerably higher toll charges.
Unlike CW2, the CW3 route may not be able to support more than one service. But with only one service at this time, it is probably not too unprofitable. -
At least it's better than idling at the terminals right and losing potential revenue right?Originally posted by hannwei:The calculations assume CW2 has 10 trips full every day, and the other 60 trips are empty. Similarly, CW3 is assumed to have 15 trips with moderate passenger volume, and the other 55 trips are empty. The 10 and 15 are peak-hour trips. It is assumed that off-peak revenues are comparable to one another.
With reduced frequencies during off-peak hours, the variable costs of both services reduce, but the cost reduction is probably more apparent in the case of CW3, due to the considerably higher toll charges.
Unlike CW2, the CW3 route may not be able to support more than one service. But with only one service at this time, it is probably not too unprofitable.
Or rather, return buses back to depot during off peak hrs. Another thing is oftenly CW2 buses leave engine on at Queen St which is not allowed -
Causeway Link local routes
LOCAL - BANDARAYA JOHOR BAHRU
Route No Route Name
10B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Daya
111 Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Perling
112 Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Kempas
11B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Tmn Selesa Jaya
12B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Impian Emas
1B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Bandar Selesa Jaya
22 Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Permas
51B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Kangkar Pulai
5B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Universiti
6 B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Kota Tinggi
666B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Gelang Patah
7 B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Terminal Kulai
71B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Indahpura
77 Bandaraya J. B. <--> Taman Bukit Jaya
9 B Bandaraya J. B. <--> Masai Bus Terminal
LOCAL - LARKIN BUS TERMINAL
Route No Route Name
55 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Pasir Gudang
66 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Kota Tinggi Bus Terminal
666 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Gelang Patah
777 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Taman Putri Kulai
88 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Taman Cahaya Masai
888 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Air Hitam
99 Larkin Bus Terminal <--> Kota Masai -
New route
Causeway Link 52B: Pontian to JB town -
I have seen CW3 entertaining full house during Peak Hours so, at least CW3 is profitable. CW2 is sometimes the case and CW1 is as comparable as 170.Originally posted by hannwei:The calculations assume CW2 has 10 trips full every day, and the other 60 trips are empty. Similarly, CW3 is assumed to have 15 trips with moderate passenger volume, and the other 55 trips are empty. The 10 and 15 are peak-hour trips. It is assumed that off-peak revenues are comparable to one another.
With reduced frequencies during off-peak hours, the variable costs of both services reduce, but the cost reduction is probably more apparent in the case of CW3, due to the considerably higher toll charges.
Unlike CW2, the CW3 route may not be able to support more than one service. But with only one service at this time, it is probably not too unprofitable. -
Nice one...how to entertain? Got CW3 bus dressed up as clown and can play tricks?Originally posted by tintinspartan:I have seen CW3 entertaining full house during Peak Hours so, at least CW3 is profitable. CW2 is sometimes the case and CW1 is as comparable as 170. -
I think u have not been to Jurong East Interchange and see how they load passengers. Bus is park at the berth for 15 - 20mins so that they can have a "full" bus departing from JE Int.Originally posted by tintinspartan:I have seen CW3 entertaining full house during Peak Hours so, at least CW3 is profitable. CW2 is sometimes the case and CW1 is as comparable as 170.
Same thing goes for CW1 @ Kranji MRT and CW2 @ Queens St Terminal. -
CW1 esp they'll wait till bus is full to leaveOriginally posted by tintinspartan:I have seen CW3 entertaining full house during Peak Hours so, at least CW3 is profitable. CW2 is sometimes the case and CW1 is as comparable as 170.
Same goes to CW2, hence you can see 6 CW2 buses waiting at Queen St Terminal -
Does anyone know of the route number that plys the following:
a) Larkin Bus and Taxi Terminal <-> Senai Airport?
b) Kotaraya II <-> Senai Airport? -
Go check sgwikiOriginally posted by TWS4793:Does anyone know of the route number that plys the following:
a) Larkin Bus and Taxi Terminal <-> Senai Airport?
b) Kotaraya II <-> Senai Airport?
its 207 from Larkin -
CW3 has relatively-fixed departure times during peak hours these days, unless there are breakdowns that result in the shortage of buses, or some buses are delayed by passengers using the manual immigration clearance lanes. That is how regular passengers like me are able to cut the waiting time to less than ten minutes each way, most of the time, though the departure interval is about twenty to thirty minutes.Originally posted by sBs_boy:I think u have not been to Jurong East Interchange and see how they load passengers. Bus is park at the berth for 15 - 20mins so that they can have a "full" bus departing from JE Int.
Well, we can say that the departure times have been arranged to ensure that the buses have sufficient predicted passenger volumes.