Hope to see a new change for Bukit Panjang Bus Interchange
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This prove one thing ,Originally posted by my@jas:I have ever suggested to SBST to extend Svc 161 to CCK via BKE & KJE. But they replied that it's not possible to pass through 2 TIBS-controlled int/areas as stated in the LTA code or somrthing like that.
there isnt any competition at all in the land transport services.
Yes, also heard from SBST that for them to operate in the SMRT's territories, they must have the cooperation and support of SMRT.
Damn it!
SMRT has never grown!
All it is capable of doing is to take the established bus routes by SBST and snatched away!
For example, woodlands services, follow by Bt panjang, then CCK & BB.
Dunt know what excuse it will give for the next round of taking over sbst route (if any.)
A company that is fed by the govt will never grow.
Just look at the no. of new services they introduced in the past years. Hardly more than 5 in the past 4 or 5 years. -
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I would prefer that they have buses to go to diff polys. eg juz like 184 and 75 goes to NP. the interchange should also haf buses to go to SP and NYP since their still quite near to Bukit Panjang as compared wif TP and RP.
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It was Tibs who introduced YIS feeders and YIS trunks (85x series). They also introduced new routes between SKG and city but had to give them up because SBS won the NEL tender.Originally posted by phillipC:This prove one thing ,
there isnt any competition at all in the land transport services.
Yes, also heard from SBST that for them to operate in the SMRT's territories, they must have the cooperation and support of SMRT.
Damn it!
SMRT has never grown!
All it is capable of doing is to take the established bus routes by SBST and snatched away!
For example, woodlands services, follow by Bt panjang, then CCK & BB.
Dunt know what excuse it will give for the next round of taking over sbst route (if any.)
A company that is fed by the govt will never grow.
Just look at the no. of new services they introduced in the past years. Hardly more than 5 in the past 4 or 5 years. -
besides the yishun services, anything else you can think of since its inception?Originally posted by iveco:It was Tibs who introduced YIS feeders and YIS trunks (85x series). They also introduced new routes between SKG and city but had to give them up because SBS won the NEL tender. -
The introduction of svc 970 in Bt Panjang, 950 in Woodlands, 96x series svcs also in Woodlands..Originally posted by phillipC:besides the yishun services, anything else you can think of since its inception?
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We should have Bendys on 171 and 700A during the peak periods.The buses are too clogged as it is.They should switch with 184, whose capacity and radius does not even come close to the routes travelled by 171 and 700A, through Orchard Road and CBD respectively.
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970 is a repackaging of service 5.Originally posted by icydevilvic88:The introduction of svc 970 in Bt Panjang, 950 in Woodlands, 96x series svcs also in Woodlands.. 
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Unless SMRTB is willing to buy more such bendy buses. Actually svc 187 and 190 should also have full bendy fleets during peak hour IMO, but too bad, i think SMRTB really too budget liao. that's why this is the case.Originally posted by LazerLordz:We should have Bendys on 171 and 700A during the peak periods.The buses are too clogged as it is.They should switch with 184, whose capacity and radius does not even come close to the routes travelled by 171 and 700A, through Orchard Road and CBD respectively. -
see some construction of bus stops along Senja Road, is 920 going to divert there soon?
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If SMRT has its limitations than, PTC should not have stopped SBST from extending its services to SMRT-controlled areas.Originally posted by off_service:Before I see more and more childish comments, please think why SMRT Buses are not having new buses or services?
4. Companies have their own limitations and you can't expect everything to go your way. You need time to make changes. Rome is not built in one day.
Man, how many times must I repeat all these...
PTC should step in if indeed bus services in BP/Yew tee and Sebawang need improvement. -
Take the Bendys away from the Woodlands services and put a few on the busy services to and fro town.Originally posted by icydevilvic88:Unless SMRTB is willing to buy more such bendy buses. Actually svc 187 and 190 should also have full bendy fleets during peak hour IMO, but too bad, i think SMRTB really too budget liao. that's why this is the case. -
Personally i think LTA and PTC obviously goof up..SMRTB or TIBS did not have enough resources and yet they hand over the services from SBST to them..no doubt they probably did their planning and all that but obviously they ahve mader many wrong assumptions for matters to end up the way they did..Originally posted by off_service:Before I see more and more childish comments, please think why SMRT Buses are not having new buses or services?
1. None of the buses are reaching the 17 year limit.
2. Do you think they have enough spaces for more buses? The parking lots at 3 depots and 2 interchanges are already exhausting. Where do you expect the new buses to park and to be maintained? If little are bought, there will be complaints of "not enough bus of the same model" and too many bought, words like "Too many of same model makes things boring (Think Mercedes and Volvo)" will be heard. It's hard to please everyone.
3. As much as many of us doesn't like the UDs, it's one of the way to utilise the existing resources. Just make do with it.
4. Companies have their own limitations and you can't expect everything to go your way. You need time to make changes. Rome is not built in one day.
Man, how many times must I repeat all these...
When the services were handed over, i understand that it was to improve the transport system..but from what i see, it seems to have DEPROVE the system as a whole.. -
Allowing SBS to run a subway line was a big gaffe. Rail resources are better managed by a single entity. Even Melbourne, a much larger city, has only a single rail operator. As for bus services, it is possible to have a handful of operators, depending on the size of the city. It is possible to have up to 3 of them in Singapore, since Perth, despite its smaller size, has one bus operator more than we do.Originally posted by rancour5:Personally i think LTA and PTC obviously goof up..SMRTB or TIBS did not have enough resources and yet they hand over the services from SBST to them..no doubt they probably did their planning and all that but obviously they ahve mader many wrong assumptions for matters to end up the way they did.. -
Melbourne's TRAMS was once operated by two companies, National Express and Yarra trams. But came 2002, the National Express which somehwhat was like SBS (control most services), pull out of their contract. So, Yarra trams took over for trams, and Connex group took over railwaysOriginally posted by iveco:Allowing SBS to run a subway line was a big gaffe. Rail resources are better managed by a single entity. Even Melbourne, a much larger city, has only a single rail operator. As for bus services, it is possible to have a handful of operators, depending on the size of the city. It is possible to have up to 3 of them in Singapore, since Perth, despite its smaller size, has one bus operator more than we do. -
PTC/LTA or the relevant authority just don't want to admit the bloody mistake so openly!Originally posted by rancour5:Personally i think LTA and PTC obviously goof up..SMRTB or TIBS did not have enough resources and yet they hand over the services from SBST to them..no doubt they probably did their planning and all that but obviously they ahve mader many wrong assumptions for matters to end up the way they did..
When the services were handed over, i understand that it was to improve the transport system..but from what i see, it seems to have DEPROVE the system as a whole..
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[quote]Originally posted by PJ_Quek:
[b]Write to LTA also, since LTA is responsible for the building of BI right?
BPJ need a bus to go to SKG. For instance:
New feeder service, maybe don't call along Bukit Panjang Rd, but in call along Senja Rd (West Spring Sec Sch and Zhenghua Sec Sch, these 2 schools are some distance away from LRT ) and loop at Segar Rd before heading back to BPJ BI. However, these areas are not fully developed yet, ridership might not enough.
hi PJ Quek,
I recently saw bus stops build up along Senja road, is SMRT going to have a feeder service there? -
I think you need to confirm this with SMRT. Hopefully, there will be a feeder service linking Senja and Segar areas.Originally posted by phillipC:[quote]Originally posted by PJ_Quek:
Write to LTA also, since LTA is responsible for the building of BI right?
BPJ need a bus to go to SKG. For instance:
New feeder service, maybe don't call along Bukit Panjang Rd, but in call along Senja Rd (West Spring Sec Sch and Zhenghua Sec Sch, these 2 schools are some distance away from LRT ) and loop at Segar Rd before heading back to BPJ BI. However, these areas are not fully developed yet, ridership might not enough.
hi PJ Quek,
I recently saw bus stops build up along Senja road, is SMRT going to have a feeder service there? -
Hmm.. A few days back i also saw bus stops at both outside and opposite senja grand, blk 628. I do really hope that there is a feeder service linking not only senja and segar area but also jelapang area (jelapang rd) ever since TIBS service 345 is withdrawn after the LRT is built. All these 3 areas have a distance away from both the LRT stations and bus stops.Originally posted by phillipC:[quote]Originally posted by PJ_Quek:
[b]Write to LTA also, since LTA is responsible for the building of BI right?
BPJ need a bus to go to SKG. For instance:
New feeder service, maybe don't call along Bukit Panjang Rd, but in call along Senja Rd (West Spring Sec Sch and Zhenghua Sec Sch, these 2 schools are some distance away from LRT ) and loop at Segar Rd before heading back to BPJ BI. However, these areas are not fully developed yet, ridership might not enough.
hi PJ Quek,
I recently saw bus stops build up along Senja road, is SMRT going to have a feeder service there?
This is the route that i have in mind for new feeder service, hope that it will come true: (Loop at Jelapang Rd)
BPJ BI --> Jelebu Rd --> BPJ Ring Rd --> Senja Rd --> BPJ Ring Rd --> Segar Rd --> BPJ Ring Rd --> Jelapang Rd (loop at there) --> Saujana Rd --> Fajar Rd --> Segar Rd --> BPJ Ring Rd --> Senja Rd --> BPJ Ring Rd --> Jelebu Rd -- BPJ BI
This route will past mainly -
3 schools: West Spring Sec, Zhenghua Sec
, Greenridge Pri
and places like Senja Grand, Fajar and Greenridge neighbourhood shopping centre, and BPJ Plaza.
phillipC: If you have the free time, you can e-mail to SMRT and LTA to suggest about the route that i've mentioned above as i'm busy preparing for my O Level this year, and also not to introduce TQ Shift for both the new route and the existing service 920 as every night (10pm+), i can just walk around the bus stop and wait for a hell long period for just 1 pathetic Nissan Diesel U31RCN bus
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Sv 920 will divert to serve the Senja Road residents on 29 May 2005.
Posters out at the bus stops.
Will skip the pair of bus stop along Ring Road.
Too bad for Segar residents, still have to walk to take LRT to get to the main road- BT panjang road. -
I think its good so that the West view Pri and West Spring Sec got bus to go to their Respective school.Originally posted by phillipC:Sv 920 will divert to serve the Senja Road residents on 29 May 2005.
Posters out at the bus stops.
Will skip the pair of bus stop along Ring Road.
Too bad for Segar residents, still have to walk to take LRT to get to the main road- BT panjang road. -
Dear Sir/ Mdm,
I would like to suggest to LTA to have a proper covered walkway, linking the Bukit Panjang Bus Interchange and the LRT Station.
Very often, I have experienced the inconvenience of without having a proper covered walkway linking the bus interchange and LRT station, during raining days.
With the covered walkway, I am sure it will benefit a lot of the commuters who need to do a transfer of transport.
Lastly, hope the relevant authority will consider the above request and hear positive news from LTA soon.
Thanks a lot for the attention.
that's their reply!
COVERED LINKWAY FOR BUKIT PANJANG BUS INTERCHANGE AND LRT
FEEDBACK NUMBER: 243465
We refer to your feedback of 08-MAY-2005.
We are pleased to inform you that we will include the covered linkway from Bukit Panjang LRT station to bus interchange in our future work programme, subject to availability of funds. However, we would like to highlight that we will not build a high covered linkway across the driveway of the Bukit Panjang bus interchange. Hence, the proposed covered linkway would terminate on both sides of the road kerb (at the pedestrian crossing).
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with regarding to earlier posts about connecting the North East and the North West (ie. BBT, CCK, BP) well, i have to agree its one big hassle to cross to areas stated..
however one MRT ride from CCK to AMK only takes 31 mins.
MRT from CCK to SKG takes 55 mins!
too bad that the central catchment area forced people to make one bog round to cross from north west / west to north east areas.
also, with this territory red tape, of course you wont see services in eg. SKG to Choa Chu Kang, not unloess CCK is still under SBS.
from memory, there are very few original Tibs svcs, esp when it mainly has Yishun under control.. tibs has much to thank SBS for the establishement of the many routes it had taken over (such as sv190 :evil
and many more..
the developement of woodlands also came at a later stage.
and, with the upcoming new MRT lines over the next few decades, i dont think such things may become reality, unless SBS takes over SMRt bus svcs?
and, rem BP used to be a roadside terminal!
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Cannot. Woodlands area really need these bendies. Look at the feeders. Usually packed. Becoz itz da only way to get from the estates to the main town centre....furthermore, Woodlands is a huge regional centre like Tampines n Jurong.Originally posted by LazerLordz:Take the Bendys away from the Woodlands services and put a few on the busy services to and fro town. -
Yes. Woodlands services, like their Yishun counterparts, need Bendies to function as well. It'll be chaotic if the Bendies are replaced with normal SDsOriginally posted by muziq bus:Cannot. Woodlands area really need these bendies. Look at the feeders. Usually packed. Becoz itz da only way to get from the estates to the main town centre....furthermore, Woodlands is a huge regional centre like Tampines n Jurong.