SBS Transit introduces new Chinatown Direct CT8, CT18 & CT28
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SBS Transit introduces new Chinatown Direct services
SBS Transit will introduce 3 new Chinatown Direct services from Friday, 21st January 2005, providing commuters with an express link from Ang Mo Kio, Bedok and Clementi to Chinatown (actually New Bridge Rd Terminal).
CT8 will ply between Ang Mo Kio Int and New Bridge Rd Terminal via Ang Mo Kio Ave 8, (Ave 1, CTE, Havelock Rd) and Chinatown.
CT18 will between Bedok Int and New Bridge Rd Terminal via Bedok North Ave 1, North Rd, (PIE, CTE, Havelock Rd) and Chinatown.
CT28 will between Clementi Int and New Bridge Rd Terminal via Clementi New Town (map not clear), (Clementi Rd, AYE, CTE, Merchant Rd) and Chinatown.
() denotes non-stop sector
These Chinatown Direct services can be identified with the dragon logo on the bus stop plates as well as on the desto plates.
Note that there is no mention that these services will run on a trial basis, so expect to see them after the Chinese New Year festive period.
Operating Hours:
Weekdays (Mon to Fri)
From "ABC": 10am - 5pm
From New Bridge Rd: 11am - 5pm
Weekends (Sat, Sun, eve of P.H.s and P.H.s)
From "ABC": 10am - 10pm
From New Bridge Rd: 11am - 10pm
Frequency
Not stated.
Fares
Adult: $1.50 (cash/ez-link card)
Senior Citizen: $1.00 (cash/ez-link card)
Child/Student: $1.00 (cash/ez-link card)
No transfer rebates will be given, nor will concessionary passes be accepted.
A promotional fare of 88 cents (flat fare) will be charged for the months of January & February 2005. -
What spare buses are available for the fleets?
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dunno. SBST probably has extra buses to play with now so they are introducing all sorts of services, like CityBuzz, 181, Fast Forward, and now Chinatown Direct.
expect the normal buses. for e.g. CT8 shld be using AMDEP buses so you'll see O.405's, and so on. -
Why these areas only? Why not Tampines? It has no more direct link since Svc 81 was shortened.
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181Originally posted by ^tamago^:dunno. SBST probably has extra buses to play with now so they are introducing all sorts of services, like CityBuzz, 181, Fast Forward, and now Chinatown Direct.
expect the normal buses. for e.g. CT8 shld be using AMDEP buses so you'll see O.405's, and so on.
, never heard bf. Tell me more about it.
BTW, what route changes is 325 receiving? -
time for you to do some back reading, my bro.Originally posted by SBS3624G:181 , never heard bf. Tell me more about it.
BTW, what route changes is 325 receiving?
Introduction of Svc 181: Boon Lay - Jurong West Ave 3 (Loop)
Extension of 325 from 26th Dec 2004
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Thanks a lot bro, I luy u!!!!!
About being outdated, I was even worse until I met you guys.
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The operation timing suggests the use of split shift buses, that would otherwise sit idle in the bus depots during off peak hours.Originally posted by SBS3624G:What spare buses are available for the fleets?
Also.. being a Chinatown service, it could be another "Advertisement funded" service. -
So i think there will be no DDs for these services?
Is there any write out on the journey times?
A bit funee:
Ang Mo Kio has sv166 to Chinatown
Bedok has sv2, sv33, sv197 to Chinatown
Clementi has sv147, sv166 to Chinatown
If it takes an hour or so, it is almost the same as the trunk services cept tt there are fewer stops... -
most probably no DD's except perhaps on the eve of CNY.Originally posted by Acx1688:So i think there will be no DDs for these services?
Is there any write out on the journey times?
A bit funee:
Ang Mo Kio has sv166 to Chinatown
Bedok has sv2, sv33, sv197 to Chinatown
Clementi has sv147, sv166 to Chinatown
If it takes an hour or so, it is almost the same as the trunk services cept tt there are fewer stops...
there is no write-out on the journey, but do note that these CT buses are not the same as FFw services, which provide a limited-stop alternative along the same route as its parent service. so CT8 is not 166e.
CT buses go by expressways to get to Chinatown, so they are actually more like the Express buses. journey times are not expected to take more than 35mins. -
As of today, SBST has these buses (a/c only) as spares:Originally posted by SBS3624G:What spare buses are available for the fleets?
3 N113CRB OAC
10 N113CRB CAC
42 O.405 WA
30 O.405 DM
26 O.405 CAC
28 B10M Mk II CAC
72 B10M Mk III (includes JB SP)
8 B10M Mk IV DM
37 B10M Mk IV Striders
18 B10M Mk IV DM3500
11 LO3x
71 VO3x
0 Tridents
0 VO2x
0 VSO
total: 356 air-con buses that are spare -
Let get them to improve the bus services in Sembawang and Choa Chu kang! I remember Yew tee only had one bus service going round the estates. And residents are expeccted to travel to any parts in Singapore by MRT.Originally posted by ^tamago^:dunno. SBST probably has extra buses to play with now so they are introducing all sorts of services, like CityBuzz, 181, Fast Forward, and now Chinatown Direct.
expect the normal buses. for e.g. CT8 shld be using AMDEP buses so you'll see O.405's, and so on.
Looking at the empty CITYBUZZ DD buses going round the city, it's a waste of resources.
Looking at chinatown direct from clementi to chinatown, why clementi? Clementi to Outram via MRT is only 20 minutes. Moreover clementi has 147, 166 going to chinatown.
yew tee, choa chu kang, sembawang or woodland or jurong west residents are more in need of such services than residents in clementi.
ptc should allow fair competition between sbst and smrt. let the bus companies serve where the real needs are. foget about the boundary, that the north and north-west should be covered by smrt.
when is the last time smrrt accquire new bus services? did smrt 950 was introduced with the cut down of frequenency in other bus services?
it is strange that smrt didn't protest about the chinatown direct services.
smrt should request for smrt106 to ply to serangoon. and smrt should ply more services into the north east region. -
It may be necessary to clarify that spare buses do not mean physical buses sitting idle waiting for deployment. Spare buses are used to cover for regular buses that have to go in for maintenance.Originally posted by ^tamago^:As of today, SBST has these buses (a/c only) as spares:
3 N113CRB OAC
10 N113CRB CAC
42 O.405 WA
30 O.405 DM
26 O.405 CAC
28 B10M Mk II CAC
72 B10M Mk III (includes JB SP)
8 B10M Mk IV DM
37 B10M Mk IV Striders
18 B10M Mk IV DM3500
11 LO3x
71 VO3x
0 Tridents
0 VO2x
0 VSO
total: 356 air-con buses that are spare
There are large number of buses that operate on peak hours only. These buses do sit idle during off peak hours. It's thus makes biz sense to squeeze out as much revenue from such buses since depreciation and maintenance are sunk costs.
But driver salaries is another thing altogether. -
Sorry, but these 338 buses are truely spare buses with no perm services. All TQ/S shift (wat you call wkend or peak hr buses) have their perm services with the perm stickers and they are the ones who lie in the depot waiting for deployment during special hours. As long as they have a perm service (duties A/P or T/S), they are no included in this 338.Originally posted by yoongf:It may be necessary to clarify that spare buses do not mean physical buses sitting idle waiting for deployment. Spare buses are used to cover for regular buses that have to go in for maintenance.
There are large number of buses that operate on peak hours only. These buses do sit idle during off peak hours. It's thus makes biz sense to squeeze out as much revenue from such buses since depreciation and maintenance are sunk costs.
But driver salaries is another thing altogether.
One good example is 9612B of 74. It is a perm on 74 (BBDEP), but you'll only see it come out on Saturdays & Sundays. For the other times, 9612B does not come out at all! This is because HGDEP usually can make use of the SP rather than touch 9612B. -
Just to clarify....9612B belongs to BB Dep not HG Dep rite?Originally posted by ^tamago^:One good example is 9612B of 74. It is a perm on 74 (BBDEP), but you'll only see it come out on Saturdays & Sundays. For the other times, 9612B does not come out at all! This is because HGDEP usually can make use of the SP rather than touch 9612B. -
Originally posted by ^tamago^:
5 of BNDEP's VSOs hibernate waiting to be called up for Citybuzz duty, I've seen all of them in there at one time, the last time they were used for normal svcs was on Tuesday (9801 on 69 / 9803 on 196).
Sorry, but these 338 buses are [b]truely spare buses with no perm services. All TQ/S shift (wat you call wkend or peak hr buses) have their perm services with the perm stickers and they are the ones who lie in the depot waiting for deployment during special hours. As long as they have a perm service (duties A/P or T/S), they are no included in this 338.
One good example is 9612B of 74. It is a perm on 74 (BBDEP), but you'll only see it come out on Saturdays & Sundays. For the other times, 9612B does not come out at all! This is because HGDEP usually can make use of the SP rather than touch 9612B.[/b]
SBS 9612 B appeared on 74 during the school holidays, afaik it is the one with some fashion ad? -
For Yew Tee, CCK, cx have sv190. Jurong West Ave 1 residents have sv174 (although a bit long) support extending the svc to Clementi to Boon LAy instead. As you have already mentioned, SMRT & SBST seldom cross each other's territorial boundary, so it's a bit "difficult" for SBST to introduce any new svc to anywhere.
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Citybuzz different. I don't expect it to live long.Originally posted by leeJZ:5 of BNDEP's VSOs hibernate waiting to be called up for Citybuzz duty, I've seen all of them in there at one time, the last time they were used for normal svcs was on Tuesday (9801 on 69 / 9803 on 196).
SBS 9612 B appeared on 74 during the school holidays, afaik it is the one with some fashion ad?
Buses run different schedules during school holidays, but still I didn't see 9612B though I have been taking it everyday for the past 5 months, inlcuding the school holidays. -
Just want to clarify on the spare buses thing.
LetÂ’s say the depot has 5 buses, A,B,C,D,E. and the depot has 4 duties to fill, 1,2,3,4.
By default, the perm buses would be A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4 and E is kept as spare bus.
However, when A goes in for maintenance, E takes over A duty, and when B goes in for maintenance, E takes over B duty.
My point is that it is unlikely that E will be seen sitting in the depot waiting for deployment as maintenance is a regularly scheduled event.
If a bus is seen sitting in a depot for a long period, likely is.. kaput due to lack of spares, reserved for special event, or the workshop is so kilat Â… service all buses during the night shift. AlternativelyÂ… that depot has excess buses. -
The answer can only be.... the depot has excess buses, as you can see from SBST "playing around" now.Originally posted by yoongf:Just want to clarify on the spare buses thing.
LetÂ’s say the depot has 5 buses, A,B,C,D,E. and the depot has 4 duties to fill, 1,2,3,4.
By default, the perm buses would be A=1, B=2, C=3, D=4 and E is kept as spare bus.
However, when A goes in for maintenance, E takes over A duty, and when B goes in for maintenance, E takes over B duty.
My point is that it is unlikely that E will be seen sitting in the depot waiting for deployment as maintenance is a regularly scheduled event.
If a bus is seen sitting in a depot for a long period, likely is.. kaput due to lack of spares, reserved for special event, or the workshop is so kilat Â… service all buses during the night shift. AlternativelyÂ… that depot has excess buses.
Anyway, servicing can be done overnight, 'cos when we say servicing, it usually means minor stuff like topping up oils, change filters and stuff. We just need drivers to do last parade duty checks on all oil levels and mechanics will only need to concentrate on vehicles that need to be serviced.
As for scheduled maintenance, a quarterly check and small maintenance tasks can be done in half a day for a bus, and if it is a non-critical fault, it is common for the vehicle to resume duty (talking bout civilian not military) until spares arrive then they will take another half day to finish up the maintenance work.
I'm a vehicle mechanic myself so I noe wat needs to be done everyday when you have 400 vehicles under your charge.
Regarding CT services, note the word (tentatively) after the date 21 Jan 2005:
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in case you haven't noticed, the bus stop notices are up. yes, it will be launched from 21st jan 05. changes: freq is 30mins, return trip is free for jan only, adult fare is now $1.80, it will go along neighbourhoods instead of starting/ending at interchange.
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http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/whatsnew_17January2005.asp
Fares: $1.80
Students/ SC: $1.00
*For the free rides return, tickets will be issued for BOTH ez-link and cash trips which are to be shown on board the return trip.
Also, the tickets can be used for offers at ChinaTown on the brochure listed
Frequency: 30 mins
Operation Hrs (Weekdays): 1000-1630 (From Heartlands) 1100-1700 (From ChinaTown)
Weekends: 1000-2000 (From Heartlands) 1100-2200 (From ChinaTown) -
for your information.Originally posted by jason20010801:Got this news from someone from Comfort.....
Also heard that Fortune God will be giving out hongbao at the same bus stop....
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Dear Friends,
Going for your festive shopping in Chinatown? If you're traveling from Ang Mo Kio, Bedok or Clementi, you're in luck!
On 21 Jan 2005 (Friday, public holiday), SBS Transit will launch three new services from Ang Mo Kio (CT 8 ), Bedok (CT 18 ) and Clementi (CT 28 ) to Chinatown. It is called Chinatown Direct as reported in Lianhe Zaobao ( http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/ct.asp ). These 3 services will bring you to Chinatown in about half an hour's time as they travel along the expressways.
As a launch promotion, SBST is giving a 1-for-1 free ride in the month of Jan'05. In addition, SBST is giving away Free "ba kwa" (BBQ sliced meat) to alighting customers of CT (8, 18, 28 ) services at the bus stop outside CK Departmental store, New Bridge Centre along New Bridge Rd this Friday (21 Jan) from 10.30am to 1.00pm, while stock lasts.
As the information on the Free "ba kwa" is unlikely to be released to the press, you may want to be the first to get it!
Click the link below for more details about these services.
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Yew Tee has only Intratown 307 travelling at the western side of YT & Feeder 302 travels at the Eastern Yew Tee. btw, one of the reasons SMRT don't introduce new services at Yew Tee is because that Yew Tee has no main roads which lead to the other parts of Singapore.Originally posted by iamgoondu:Let get them to improve the bus services in Sembawang and Choa Chu kang! I remember Yew tee only had one bus service going round the estates. And residents are expeccted to travel to any parts in Singapore by MRT.
yew tee, choa chu kang, sembawang or woodland or jurong west residents are more in need of such services than residents in clementi.
ptc should allow fair competition between sbst and smrt. let the bus companies serve where the real needs are. foget about the boundary, that the north and north-west should be covered by smrt.
Yew Tee's 3 main exits are-
-Towards Kranji Industrial area
-Towards CCK Rd/CCK bus int
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Seen the buses
Seen CAC 0405 used for the AMK. There was abt 35 passengers