think smrt should stop buying expensive buses
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There are only a few reputed bus manufacturers out there in the market. Do take note that if you want cheaper bus, then you have to bear the brunt of buses breaking down more often which will disrupt schedules and there will spend more time in the wksp than on the roads means more maintenance, higher costs for parts and mechanics which will ultimately means an increase in bus fares!
Only major players have survived like Volvo, MB, Dennis, Scania, Nissan. These are trustworthy and they come with a cost. SBST's CRBs have survived 17years and they still can go on if not for LTA's mandatory bus shelf life ruling. -
find the dennis lance buses smrt is operating is quite ok.maybe smrt should buy more of that ..maybe smrt can consider opting for dennis lance buses instead of opting for more expensive brands like mercedes.Originally posted by Acx1688:There are only a few reputed bus manufacturers out there in the market. Do take note that if you want cheaper bus, then you have to bear the brunt of buses breaking down more often which will disrupt schedules and there will spend more time in the wksp than on the roads means more maintenance, higher costs for parts and mechanics which will ultimately means an increase in bus fares!
Only major players have survived like Volvo, MB, Dennis, Scania, Nissan. These are trustworthy and they come with a cost. SBST's CRBs have survived 17years and they still can go on if not for LTA's mandatory bus shelf life ruling.
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Please tell me you are kidding ! It's not April you know.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:find the dennis lance buses smrt is operating is quite ok.maybe smrt should buy more of that ..maybe smrt can consider opting for dennis lance buses instead of opting for more expensive brands like mercedes. 
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All I can say is that good things don't come cheap. You want powerful buses, less noisy buses, low floor buses, buses that don't rattle too much etc. you must be prepared to cough up some extra dough. You pay peanuts, you get monkeys. We wouldn't want SMRT Bus and SBS Transit to be swamped with Hino AKs or Mercedes OH1318, would we?
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maybe buy fewer expensive busesOriginally posted by Airbus330Captain:Please tell me you are kidding ! It's not April you know. -
Dennis LAnce are ok unless their seating capacity is increased. If you did notice, the rear of the seat is actually the engine, wic if properly configured can yield another 4 seats. In addition, the AC ducts are not in the correct position ie the pax has to adjust the AC duct wic is situated behind the seatOriginally posted by alantanchunshyan:find the dennis lance buses smrt is operating is quite ok.maybe smrt should buy more of that ..maybe smrt can consider opting for dennis lance buses instead of opting for more expensive brands like mercedes. -
that has got more to do with the bodywork right, so instead of saying buy less expensive buses, what about the bodywork?
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Dennis Lances have vertically-mounted engines. Unless you want to have a rear seat that is super high compared to the rest of the seats?Originally posted by Acx1688:Dennis LAnce are ok unless their seating capacity is increased. If you did notice, the rear of the seat is actually the engine, wic if properly configured can yield another 4 seats. In addition, the AC ducts are not in the correct position ie the pax has to adjust the AC duct wic is situated behind the seat
Alantanchunshyan, if you want cheaper buses (and probably bus fares), go to Johor Bahru and ride all the Hino AKs and OH1318s you want (and might as well stay there). We couldn't care less. -
[quote]Originally posted by SBS9818A:
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Dennis Lances have vertically-mounted engines. Unless you want to have a rear seat that is super high compared to the rest of the seats?
Eh wat i meant was for the engine to be mounted the same way like SBS1688K or SBS2888T to maximise the setting arrangement -
This is impossible. 1688K and 2888T have horizontally-mounted engines.Originally posted by Acx1688:[quote]Originally posted by SBS9818A:
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Dennis Lances have vertically-mounted engines. Unless you want to have a rear seat that is super high compared to the rest of the seats?
Eh wat i meant was for the engine to be mounted the same way like SBS1688K or SBS2888T to maximise the setting arrangement -
Buses that SMRT buys are very nice, especially the habits. SBST buses are sort of mixed and rojak. Only the VO3ax 9401T-9670H, Dennis Trident and Volvo MK4 DM3500 look nice.
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For your information, SMRT has never bought a single bus. Only TIBS did.
At least u guys should be appreciative that Tibs was at least willing to splurge a few more thousands to provide style and maximum comfort to passengers (well, if you fail to feel these, too bad). The problem now is that SMRT has more services to handle with the same number of buses TIBS had, so even if SMRT continues to follow TIBS and buy expensive buses but also improve their service, I dont see why not buses tt are a bit more expensive be bought. -
i hate the seats on smrt buses... esp the newer models... but i like the peace and quiet and the quiet engines, and less bumpy. tt means good damping.Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:well think that smrt should not be buying those expensive buses with expensive interiors like patterned seats etc.think smrt should focus on buying buses from less expensive brands and less expensive interiors.smrt should concentrate on improving frequencies by buying more buses from less expensive brands and not less buses by buying more expensive brands.what are your views and comments on this issue? -
why do you guys like buses so much? i just hope that smrt buses NEVER get tv mobile. i feel so violated in my thoughts and personal space when i'm forced to watch crap tv.
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and the price list makes me think if i have money to spare, i shd buy a bus and not a car!Originally posted by alantanchunshyan:thanks for the list of prices for sbst and smrt buses.
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as the news says, sbs has more buses than smrt, but i personally prefer taking SMRT buses...
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so do I!Originally posted by finoq:as the news says, sbs has more buses than smrt, but i personally prefer taking SMRT buses... -
If you guys noticed, after 1993, both bus companies have been shifting their attention to European buses. Infact, many of the developed countries bus co do that. I believe the make and chassis of European buses are having more plus points over regional counterparts.
For SMRT, take the UDs and Mercedes O.405s for example, their age difference is only by a year, but differences in performances are far beyond that. -
Besides the above mentioned makes, one can find Causeway Link's MAN 18.280s (why can't we have them?) as well. These are Malaysian built and I believe they'd cost less since the freight charges are lower. Heading on to Kuala Lumpur, the Iveco Turbocity is a common sight there.Originally posted by SBS9818A:Alantanchunshyan, if you want cheaper buses (and probably bus fares), go to Johor Bahru and ride all the Hino AKs and OH1318s you want (and might as well stay there). We couldn't care less.
IMO, the Hino AKs and OF/OH1318s are cheapskates and are better off as school buses. -
Why not JB? Except for the Turbocity and Metrorider, everything else can be found in JB. There are also buses in JB that are not found in KL, such as the Mercedes O405 (and I don't mean the TIBS ones).Originally posted by iveco:Why JB? There are better buses in KL (but equally bad frequency). The Malaysian capital has locally manufactured MAN 18.280s (why can't we buy them?) as well as Iveco Turbocities. I find them a tad better than the OH1318s and Hino AKs (cheapskates that are better off as school buses). -
I love the Habits.Hmm, why not change the UDs to a MB Citaro. And no TV Mobile please.I just want good silent buses, comfy original seats and cool air.
Interior of a MB Citaro bus in Oxford , UK
Exterior of the Oxford-Chiltern fleet.Looking smart..
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wow this buses look so coolOriginally posted by LazerLordz:I love the Habits.Hmm, why not change the UDs to a MB Citaro. And no TV Mobile please.I just want good silent buses, comfy original seats and cool air.
Interior of a MB Citaro bus in Oxford , UK
Exterior of the Oxford-Chiltern fleet.Looking smart..
i hope SBST AND SMRT will buy it one day this will look great in singapore roads -
I believe our SMRT bendies are based on a Citaro/Hispano combination, especially the ones with white aircon ducting and a Habit seat design interior.
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I believe our SMRT bendies are based on a Citaro/Hispano combination, especially the ones with white aircon ducting and a Habit seat design interior.
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although i am not a guy living in SingaporeOriginally posted by off_service:If you guys noticed, after 1993, both bus companies have been shifting their attention to European buses. Infact, many of the developed countries bus co do that. I believe the make and chassis of European buses are having more plus points over regional counterparts.
For SMRT, take the UDs and Mercedes O.405s for example, their age difference is only by a year, but differences in performances are far beyond that.
i really support yr ideas
in my view,European buese hv a higher perforamce
like Man,Scania,Volvo
although they need a higher price,but they worth it
for example,they can provide SLF,a more powerful engine,
a better shock absorb etc.............
and the important is,a better and user-friendly control