Speeding on BKE by Singapore-Johor Express buses
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last night i saw a Singapore-Johor Express bus kenna booked by traffic police on the road shoulder along BKE towards PIE, presumably for speeding, rare scenario as i have never encountered a bus or taxi kenna summoned by TP before hahaha...
i drive along BKE frequently, have noticed that many a time lots of Singapore-Johor Express buses often use the centre lane and travel as high as 70-80km/h, overtaking many smaller vans and lorries at the left lane...these Singapore-Johor Express drivers think they are driving a sports car....na beh, or think they are driving on malaysian roads...aren't these jokers aware that they are driving a heavy vehicle and are supposed to keep to the left lane?????
only our SMRT buses (187, 190, 700, 960, 963, 966) kept to the left lane and abide by the speed limit
Those Singapore-Johor Express buses are really atrocious and deserve being summoned and fined.
Also along SLE, i've noticed lots of blue colored Johor factory buses speeding on the centre lane...whereas our SBST buses (161 and 16
along SLE kept to their speed limit..hope the TP nab these Johor buses...
have u guys ever encountered a bus or taxi stopped by TP and kenna booked? -
You sure it is SJE in the 1st place? There are 2 operators running the SG - JB express sv
Because I have seen myself the Yellow Malaysian public bus speeding at 100km/hr along BKE -
yellow malaysian public bus?...oh..izzit causeway link?Originally posted by sbst275:You sure it is SJE in the 1st place? There are 2 operators running the SG - JB express sv
Because I have seen myself the Yellow Malaysian public bus speeding at 100km/hr along BKE -
of course, SJE buses are easily recognizable along BKE for speeding, especially when they are nabbed by TP...
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So..is the bus is MAN or Scania bus?Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:of course, SJE buses are easily recognizable along BKE for speeding, especially when they are nabbed by TP... -
must be the recently introduced CW2 i suppose, plying between Queen St and Johor, via BKE, operated by those kuku malaysian drivers who think the speed limit on BKE is 80km/hOriginally posted by Volvo Olympian:yellow malaysian public bus?...oh..izzit causeway link? -
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See... SJE buses have speed limiters fitted.... Only CW2 buses dun have... They thought is 90km/hr when it is just 60km/hrOriginally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:must be the recently introduced CW2 i suppose, plying between Queen St and Johor, via BKE, operated by those kuku malaysian drivers who think the speed limit on BKE is 80km/h
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Seriously, sbst275, you must be f-cking blind if you CANNOT tell a YELLOW Causeway Link bus from a RED-AND-SILVER SJE one.Originally posted by sbst275:You sure it is SJE in the 1st place? There are 2 operators running the SG - JB express sv
Because I have seen myself the Yellow Malaysian public bus speeding at 100km/hr along BKE -
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relax relax, cool down.
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I'd love to try one of them speedsters.
I've seen a bus being booked for speeding on the North-South Highway in Malaysia. The bus was a MAN 18.310. I was travelling about 100 kmh when this bus overtook my car and was soon out of my sight. A few moments later, I saw it on the road shoulder with a police patrol car. -
Repeated topic over at Cars Forum ... Hence deleting the one at Cars
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Originally posted by SBS9818A:
Hmm... He has already said it is the yellow bus below
Seriously, sbst275, you must be f-cking blind if you [b]CANNOT tell a YELLOW Causeway Link bus from a RED-AND-SILVER SJE one.[/b] -
Hmm... Daryl, did he say what is the colour of the bus?Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:last night i saw a Singapore-Johor Express bus kenna booked by traffic police on the road shoulder along BKE towards PIE, presumably for speeding, rare scenario as i have never encountered a bus or taxi kenna summoned by TP before hahaha...
i drive along BKE frequently, have noticed that many a time lots of Singapore-Johor Express buses often use the centre lane and travel as high as 70-80km/h, overtaking many smaller vans and lorries at the left lane...these Singapore-Johor Express drivers think they are driving a sports car....na beh, or think they are driving on malaysian roads...aren't these jokers aware that they are driving a heavy vehicle and are supposed to keep to the left lane?????
only our SMRT buses (187, 190, 700, 960, 963, 966) kept to the left lane and abide by the speed limit
Those Singapore-Johor Express buses are really atrocious and deserve being summoned and fined.
Also along SLE, i've noticed lots of blue colored Johor factory buses speeding on the centre lane...whereas our SBST buses (161 and 16 along SLE kept to their speed limit..hope the TP nab these Johor buses...
have u guys ever encountered a bus or taxi stopped by TP and kenna booked?
And Please, CW2 does write the icon "Singapore - Johor Bahru" on the sides
And only Malaysian buses can go abv 60km/hr, for many trips onboard SJE buses, they have never went abv 60km/hr. Only Malaysian buses do not have limiters as they are save from installing as they are not under local rules as they are not locally - registered buses -
I have seen MAN 16.sth(forgot) go 130km/h on NS highway, the bus was swinging dangerously side-to-side, nobody dared to come close. Such drivers really endanger lifes of many and shld be stopped.
Anyway, the reason why our public buses are so law-abiding is bcos they have speed-limitors. The fastest I have seen was a 965 MB0405 Hisp going at 80+km/h. -
Read: Singapore-Johor Express!
And I'm sure the author CAN differentiate between a Singapore-Johor Express bus and a Causeway Link bus. -
Yesterday saw an off-service Scania CRB SBS3597B travelling at 80 km/hr along AMK ave 1. I was driving at 75 km/hr, and the bus was slowly pulling away. Pick up speed to 85 km/hr to finally overtake the bus..Originally posted by SBS3624G:I have seen MAN 16.sth(forgot) go 130km/h on NS highway, the bus was swinging dangerously side-to-side, nobody dared to come close. Such drivers really endanger lifes of many and shld be stopped.
Anyway, the reason why our public buses are so law-abiding is bcos they have speed-limitors. The fastest I have seen was a 965 MB0405 Hisp going at 80+km/h. -
This always happen got one time this green coloured bus amerc 1 it was speeding at 140km and the bus was like swinging from side to side...Originally posted by SBS3624G:I have seen MAN 16.sth(forgot) go 130km/h on NS highway, the bus was swinging dangerously side-to-side, nobody dared to come close. Such drivers really endanger lifes of many and shld be stopped.
Anyway, the reason why our public buses are so law-abiding is bcos they have speed-limitors. The fastest I have seen was a 965 MB0405 Hisp going at 80+km/h.
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SJE also uses the BKE lah you blur c**k.Originally posted by sbst275:Hmm... Daryl, did he say what is the colour of the bus?
And Please, CW2 does write the icon "Singapore - Johor Bahru" on the sides
And only Malaysian buses can go abv 60km/hr, for many trips onboard SJE buses, they have never went abv 60km/hr. Only Malaysian buses do not have limiters as they are save from installing as they are not under local rules as they are not locally - registered buses -
I don't consider 80km/h dangerous at all. Illegal, yes, but dangerous, no. It's hardly fast!
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What do you consider fast then?!Originally posted by sabaisabai:I don't consider 80km/h dangerous at all. Illegal, yes, but dangerous, no. It's hardly fast!
Anyway, I have recalled that the MAN I saw speeding was a MAN 16.310, it looked a lot like our dear 81S, a MAN 16.240. And swinging about? It sure is dangerous, a bit of steering and the bus will bite the dust.
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It appears you are the joker which needs some waking up.
Same too for those joker traffic policemen who seems to have nothing else better to 'book' than for such cases of so-called 'speeding' !!!!
From personal experiences of using the SJE over many years, it's very obvious (to me least) that the 'speed limits' are too unrealistically LOW in much of the times on those expressways !
It's absolutely stupid, impractical even inefficient ! to reasonably expect a modern bus (even an articulated one !) or coach to 'crawl' along such expressways @ what ?? 60 km/h ?!!?? as if they're driving on a normal (i.e. non expressway road) ?? What you think they're doing then ?? Watching the night sky for bats, admiring the scenery etc. ? I'm very sure the drivers & the passengers too ! have many other better things to do than wasting their time & patience putting up with such artificially low speeds in such driving environments !!!!
Therefore i have to fully sympathise with the drivers of buses & coaches in such situations ! It's only a matter of course then that they have to so-call 'speed' on such roads whenever reasonably possible, to make the most sense out from driving under those circumstances !!!! Any policemen who tries to 'book' such motorists are really stupid condemned idiots who deserve to be placed into the same shoes of such bus or coach drivers for them to experience 1st hand what the ridiculous circumstances of such REAL road hogging is like ! Then (if they're of sound minds) they're expected to understand why such so-called 'speeding' instances are practically sensible & justified afterall !!
It has been known that the vast majority of accidents in the world does NOT occur @ high speeds on the highways BUT @ 'quite low' speeds @ traffic junctions instead !!!! The probability of an accident occuring @ high speed on a highway is also known to be LESS than on a normal road @ low speeds.
Therefore looking only @ speed per se to decide if that is 'unsafe' or 'dangerous' or not is over simplistic shallow mindedness, say the least !
You can be driving @ only 40 km/h along a small & winding narrow road & still you're NOT automatically 'safer' than if driving @ 100 km/h or higher on a wide straight & open highway with plenty of view ahead !
So it really boils down to speed management rather than speed itself !
It's definitely OK to drive fast, especially even on a modern bus or coach or van etc., BUT under the appropriate driving circumstances, which ARE available quite often, even when on the expressways here.
What can be done instead is to have seperate lanes for PSV's like minibuses or full size buses & coaches on the expressways, something like the Mercedes-Benz O-Bahn system, although in this case forget about the tracks just place say kerbs to physically seperate the cars from the buses etc. This way, like in the real O-Bahn system, the buses & coaches can 'speed' up to 100 km/h on their 'own road' on the same expressway as the cars yet won't get in the way of the cars or vice-versa !
So you have this 'high speed' lane for PSV's on the middle-left of the expressway while the extreme left lane for other commercial vehicles who can only manage a lower speed & keeping the rest of the expressway clear mainly for the lighter weight vehicles like cars.
That'll certainly make 'much more sense' out of the situation @ hand for drivers of the respective vehicle types & traffic moves on the expressways @ a quicker & more efficient & practical pace for everybody, WITHOUT compromising safety in any significant manner !Originally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:last night i saw a Singapore-Johor Express bus kenna booked by traffic police on the road shoulder along BKE towards PIE, presumably for speeding, rare scenario as i have never encountered a bus or taxi kenna summoned by TP before hahaha...
i drive along BKE frequently, have noticed that many a time lots of Singapore-Johor Express buses often use the centre lane and travel as high as 70-80km/h, overtaking many smaller vans and lorries at the left lane...these Singapore-Johor Express drivers think they are driving a sports car....na beh, or think they are driving on malaysian roads...aren't these jokers aware that they are driving a heavy vehicle and are supposed to keep to the left lane?????
only our SMRT buses (187, 190, 700, 960, 963, 966) kept to the left lane and abide by the speed limit
Those Singapore-Johor Express buses are really atrocious and deserve being summoned and fined.
Also along SLE, i've noticed lots of blue colored Johor factory buses speeding on the centre lane...whereas our SBST buses (161 and 16 along SLE kept to their speed limit..hope the TP nab these Johor buses...
have u guys ever encountered a bus or taxi stopped by TP and kenna booked? -
Most STUPID, impractical & inefficient useless devices, especially when installed in a modern bus or coach !!
The only sensible applications i can see for such devices in certain types of trucks, like those with bodies transporting dangerous substances or unusually heavy & or bulky cargo.
Such devices really have NO real need or place in especially modern PSV's, especially with their high levels of active safety in-built, competent handling characteristics etc. & carrying mainly 'safe cargo' like humans only !
High time such devices get dismantled & thrown into the dustbin !
I've had enough patience putting up with them.Originally posted by sbst275:See... SJE buses have speed limiters fitted.... Only CW2 buses dun have... They thought is 90km/hr when it is just 60km/hr