Which trunk services needs upgrade of buses ?
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If service 70 is to be shortened, how about the passengers along Guillemard Rd? All walk to Old Airport Rd and take the trains?Originally posted by iveco:Svc 70 runs from Upp Paya Lebar Rd to Nicoll Hwy. The CCL will be following almost the same path. There is a possibility of Svc 70 being shortened like 81, 82 and 103. -
By the way, the non aircon single decks have no TV Mobile.Originally posted by junh:154!!
single decked and no air con??
new ones pls
oh, remove tv mobile to save cost
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Like services 2 and 147.Originally posted by iveco:So all the more it should not be touched even when the whole CCL is up and running. -
38!
Too many old buses. -
28 actually not upgrade lahh cos 28 use to have about 10 VSO
shiok man
9802,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,13 and 9828
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28 originally had 7 VSOs:Originally posted by SBS9828X:28 actually not upgrade lahh cos 28 use to have about 10 VSO shiok man
9802,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,13 and 9828
9801 9802 9803 9804 9805 9806 9807
Then they swapped one bus with 70:
9801 9802 9803 9804 9805 9807 9828
1st round of VSO transfers to BNDEP left:
9801 9802 9807 9828
2nd round of VSO transfers to BNDEP left:
9802 9828
5 VSOs replaced with 1x Batch 3 VO (9646 ex-86), 2x Batch 2 VOs (9432 ex-9 9587 ex-9), 2x Batch 1 VOs (9302 ex-12 9378 ex-9). -
Get rid of SBS 488C on SVC 105. I see that bus i sian 1/2. 143 trully needs more V03Xs.
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Majority control of service 143 is under SLBP, that's why there's so many LO3xs on the service. If majority control is under BRAM, we can see more VSOs or VO3xs on the service.Originally posted by Halide:143 trully needs more V03Xs.
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Look at Svc 88 , they have so many VOs ... trying to impress the Hougang and Sengkang passengers ? They can transferred 3-4 VOs to svc 143 if you ask me.
AMK depot should wake up and start spreading the Volvo buses around, would love to see cameo Mark 4 DM3500 on svc 24, 53, 135 , 155 . Don't you guys agree ? -
Sv. 143 only has 1 full day bus from bram, the remaining 4 are split shift. Not much point in putting VO3X on the service. If SBST wanted to impress HG and SK passengers, Sv. 88 would have gotten perm B10TLs ages ago.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:Look at Svc 88 , they have so many VOs ... trying to impress the Hougang and Sengkang passengers ? They can transferred 3-4 VOs to svc 143 if you ask me.
AMK depot should wake up and start spreading the Volvo buses around, would love to see cameo Mark 4 DM3500 on svc 24, 53, 135 , 155 . Don't you guys agree ? -
Yes, of course. I would like to see these happening. But the problem is that AMDEP do not have much B10Ms after last year's transfers. Plus next month 86 136 159 transfers, HGDEP needs B10Ms, AMDEP services with B10Ms in the fleet will be replaced by Mercz initially. It will become rare to see these cameos.Originally posted by Airbus330Captain:AMK depot should wake up and start spreading the Volvo buses around, would love to see cameo Mark 4 DM3500 on svc 24, 53, 135 , 155 . Don't you guys agree ?
Charles mentioned to transfer some of 88's VOs to 143, me thinks it isn't a wise move. I think the VOs can go to 22 or 72. Too many LOs in the fleet. -
159 is a loop service from TPY. How could it come under HGDEP's responsibility? Unless you are talking about a similar arrangement what exist for Svc 63.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Yes, of course. I would like to see these happening. But the problem is that AMDEP do not have much B10Ms after last year's transfers. Plus next month 86 136 159 transfers, HGDEP needs B10Ms, AMDEP services with B10Ms in the fleet will be replaced by Mercz initially. It will become rare to see these cameos.
Charles mentioned to transfer some of 88's VOs to 143, me thinks it isn't a wise move. I think the VOs can go to 22 or 72. Too many LOs in the fleet. -
159, when it extended to Sengkang, the 0405 were ditched for spanking new mk4s... later, they were reduced back to the 0405 again........ how come?Originally posted by iveco:159 is a loop service from TPY. How could it come under HGDEP's responsibility? Unless you are talking about a similar arrangement what exist for Svc 63.
also, talking about DDs, i sometimes prefer SD as they are in a way, faster than DD with lesser capacity and laden weight.. also, Volvo DD moves and accelerate slower than the LO3x.. -
Oic , point taken . I keep thinking majority of 143's DD buses are from Braddel. Svc 88 was orginally from Hougang south depot ? Am I right ?Originally posted by SBS9818A:Sv. 143 only has 1 full day bus from bram, the remaining 4 are split shift. Not much point in putting VO3X on the service. If SBST wanted to impress HG and SK passengers, Sv. 88 would have gotten perm B10TLs ages ago. -
HGDEP will need more single decks as all the services being moved to HGDEP utilitze solely single-deck or mostly single-decks, which makes it possible for O405s to move to HGDEP (finally)Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Yes, of course. I would like to see these happening. But the problem is that AMDEP do not have much B10Ms after last year's transfers. Plus next month 86 136 159 transfers, HGDEP needs B10Ms, AMDEP services with B10Ms in the fleet will be replaced by Mercz initially. It will become rare to see these cameos.
Charles mentioned to transfer some of 88's VOs to 143, me thinks it isn't a wise move. I think the VOs can go to 22 or 72. Too many LOs in the fleet. -
Sv. 88 was previously operated by both bram and bndep. After the Bukit Batok services were handed over to TIBS, Sv. 143 became a majority slbp service with plenty of bbdep drivers moving on to drive Sv. 143 in slbp
As bram had an excess of drivers following this move, Sv. 88 became full bram and thus Sv. 88 has numerous ex- bram 143 drivers -
It seems like SBST is moving services terminating along Northeast corridor to be under HGDEP control. But sv 3 is not involve in the depot transfer exercise. Maybe HGDEP no more space. I am sure 81 is going over to HGDEP.Originally posted by iveco:159 is a loop service from TPY. How could it come under HGDEP's responsibility? Unless you are talking about a similar arrangement what exist for Svc 63. -
Yes, I recall 1981M in the fleet. It was transfered from AMDEP to HGDEP as it was terminating at Sengkang Int. But when 163 was amended to Sengkang Int, 159 became a loop service (maybe Sengkang Int no space), 163 moved to HGDEP and 159 moved back to AMDEP.Originally posted by 105090:159, when it extended to Sengkang, the 0405 were ditched for spanking new mk4s... later, they were reduced back to the 0405 again........ how come? -
If 81 goes over, one of the BDK routes should move to BNDEP. Also, 11 & 64 seem likely to be handed to AMDEP-BRAM.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:It seems like SBST is moving services terminating along Northeast corridor to be under HGDEP control. But sv 3 is not involve in the depot transfer exercise. Maybe HGDEP no more space. I am sure 81 is going over to HGDEP.
By the way, was 111 full HGDEP during pre-NEL days? -
But on the same day 163 was extended to SKG, 27 was extended to HGN. In essence, it was a 1 for 1 swap. Your argument that SKG Int had no space doesn't really hold much water. I think it's more to do with depot arrangements.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Yes, I recall 1981M in the fleet. It was transfered from AMDEP to HGDEP as it was terminating at Sengkang Int. But when 163 was amended to Sengkang Int, 159 became a loop service (maybe Sengkang Int no space), 163 moved to HGDEP and 159 moved back to AMDEP. -
The current Sengkang Int is quite small in fact. Before the NEL Network Rationalisation, with 85, 501, 502, etc, Sengkang is already very cramp. Giving up 159 and 27 from terminating at the interchange was a wise move.Originally posted by iveco:But on the same day 163 was extended to SKG, 27 was extended to HGN. In essence, it was a 1 for 1 swap. Your argument that SKG Int had no space doesn't really hold much water. I think it's more to do with depot arrangements.
If 159 isn't being transfered back to AMDEP, tell me, what is going to happen to the mercz? AMDEP gets more SPs? Transfer them out? HGDEP will then run into a shortage of B10M to accomodate one more service. And what's more, HGDEP isn't keen on keeping mercz inside, looking at the example of S'goon svcs mercz going back to AMDEP one by one. -
Huh? When 81 joins HGDEP with 86, 136 and 159 (4 svcs), HGDEP already gives up 7 32 66 197 (4 svcs too). 11 and 64 go BRAM/AMDEP, it is only that 64 might lose its entire B10M and Trident fleet. AMDEP is going to be quite empty, so I believe some TPY and some WRI svcs will go full AMDEP, if not AMDEP gains more control of 8 28 31 166 etc.Originally posted by iveco:If 81 goes over, one of the BDK routes should move to BNDEP. Also, 11 & 64 seem likely to be handed to AMDEP-BRAM.
By the way, was 111 full HGDEP during pre-NEL days?
Yes, 111 was full HGDEP that time. When amended, it is now full ARBP control. -
What? So there will be a chance to see Scanias on 7 & 197 at last? Remember 32 & 66 were under BNDEP in the past and CRBs were once perm on them.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Huh? When 81 joins HGDEP with 86, 136 and 159 (4 svcs), HGDEP already gives up 7 32 66 197 (4 svcs too). 11 and 64 go BRAM/AMDEP, it is only that 64 might lose its entire B10M and Trident fleet. AMDEP is going to be quite empty, so I believe some TPY and some WRI svcs will go full AMDEP, if not AMDEP gains more control of 8 28 31 166 etc.
Yes, 111 was full HGDEP that time. When amended, it is now full ARBP control.
Still, 159 going to HGDEP seems weird. Svc 3 sounds more reasonable since it terminates at PGL. -
IF Sv 159 transfered to HGDEP IT Will be Sengkang-Toa Payoh(Loop),Is that weird?
Anyway my dream are
HGDEP:Majority B10Ms/VOs & A handful of Mercs
Plus transfer BNDEP Darts & The Two bendies also
BBDEP/ARBP:Same as HGDEP But a bit of Merc only
BRAM/AMDEP:Majority Merc,Handful of B10Ms,VOs,LOs,A bit of Scanias & transfer the L94UB,BLE & Tridents To AMDEP too
BNDEP:Majority B10Ms,Fair share of Scanias,A bit of Merc,VSOs,VOs
SLBP:A bit of Merc,A little of B10Ms,LOs & some VOs will do.The CNG Can sold liao to buy more stepless SDs -
bus no 125 .... still no air con ......... wat century liao