Reasons why SMRTB not doing much to improve services thread
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Well, i'd like you all to maybe give reasons why smrt is not doing much to improve services.
My reason is that they might be trying to save money to buy new buses to replace 300++ MB0405s expiring in 2007. What's your reason? -
My reasons here is that they should buy more new buses as the UDs and the older 0405 is going to retire soon.
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Em... The SMRT's 0405 is only due under laws in 2012 not 2007 unless it is SBS'sOriginally posted by cck_190:Well, i'd like you all to maybe give reasons why smrt is not doing much to improve services.
My reason is that they might be trying to save money to buy new buses to replace 300++ MB0405s expiring in 2007. What's your reason?
Then why no new bus svs? -
Maybe because there are no vacant numbers.Originally posted by sbst275:Em... The SMRT's 0405 is only due under laws in 2012 not 2007 unless it is SBS's
Then why no new bus svs? -
The UDs has at least 3-4 more years to go. They came in almost the same time as SBST's Mark 3s . So don't expect any new buses to be coming in soon for SMRT.
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Oh...yes, sorry...i meant 2012.Originally posted by sbst275:Em... The SMRT's 0405 is only due under laws in 2012 not 2007 unless it is SBS's
Then why no new bus svs? -
cos SMRT is incompetent and not experienced enough to enhance bus services, they are only good in enhancing train services but a pity that they are still not doing good enough
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as smrt services is in the noeth and northwest areas of singapore, most residents there will take trains to get around. taking buses will be like duplicating the mrt routes, like 67, from cck to tampines via bukit timah, tekka. the start and end points all have mrt and is still the fastest way. maybe its too bad smrt service areas are quite isolated, pushed to one corner. the only important role is actually smrt feeder services as most parts of the towns have only feders with almost no trunk to serve itOriginally posted by Tomas_Rosicko:cos SMRT is incompetent and not experienced enough to enhance bus services, they are only good in enhancing train services but a pity that they are still not doing good enough
thats why maybe smrt is slow in expanding its fleet and introducing new services.
thks for reading
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Guess train is his CORE business, not buses.
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vision mission CORE value.Originally posted by phillipC:Guess train is his CORE business, not buses.
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SMRT is more interested in their rail operations than their bus operations. It's true.
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Then they should never have been allowed to take over Trans Island and "molest" north west routes. ALL MRT & LRT lines are better off under SMRT ownership. I don't mind having the DDs still serving 106. SKG and PGL pple can have all the Habit buses they want. Trust me, everything was better pre-1999.Originally posted by kenny_cai:SMRT is more interested in their rail operations than their bus operations. It's true. -
yah...and more DDs on 190 tooOriginally posted by iveco:Then they should never have been allowed to take over Trans Island and "molest" north west routes. ALL MRT & LRT lines are better off under SMRT ownership. I don't mind having the DDs still serving 106. SKG and PGL pple can have all the Habit buses they want. Trust me, everything was better pre-1999. -
i'm a supporter of tran's island...no more liao..hiazz..
Btw...tran's island is own by the goverment one..or it a private company? -
Can you promise that if they take all MRT lines, they can put at 6 mins off peak frequency and not going to screw up the NEL frequency?Originally posted by iveco:Then they should never have been allowed to take over Trans Island and "molest" north west routes. ALL MRT & LRT lines are better off under SMRT ownership. I don't mind having the DDs still serving 106. SKG and PGL pple can have all the Habit buses they want. Trust me, everything was better pre-1999.
Hmm.. Habits can move around at SKG Int? Is it??? -
At least services like 82, 103 and 864 could still have a chance to serve more people if Tibs were very much left alone. Same way that 25 and 854 compete for supremacy of the HGN-EUN corridor. The rationale for SBS to merge 84 with 864 and shorten 82 & 103 to SER was to force people in the north east to take their subway.Originally posted by sbst275:Can you promise that if they take all MRT lines, they can put at 6 mins off peak frequency and not going to screw up the NEL frequency?
There is a thread on what would have happened back if SMRT had ALL subways. One of the possible outcomes was that there would be no "north west for north east" swap. In reality, Tibs capacity became overstretched after taking over BBT & CCK while SBS, having excess buses following the deal, could transfer them from BBDEP to HGDEP to serve new routes in SKG & PGL. -
I think TIBS is own by the government..Originally posted by zheshi:i'm a supporter of tran's island...no more liao..hiazz..
Btw...tran's island is own by the goverment one..or it a private company? -
The prob now comes..Originally posted by iveco:At least services like 82, 103 and 864 could still have a chance to serve more people if Tibs were very much left alone. Same way that 25 and 854 compete for supremacy of the HGN-EUN corridor. The rationale for SBS to merge 84 with 864 and shorten 82 & 103 to SER was to force people in the north east to take their subway.
There is a thread on what would have happened back if SMRT had ALL subways. One of the possible outcomes was that there would be no "north west for north east" swap. In reality, Tibs capacity became overstretched after taking over BBT & CCK while SBS, having excess buses following the deal, could transfer them from BBDEP to HGDEP to serve new routes in SKG & PGL.
If SBS lost then and took over BPJ/ WDL/ YIS corridor and could have merged with SMRT, service changes could happen too... -
Nope... It is BELIEVED only to be controlled by the Lee family... It has no govt direct stakesOriginally posted by Volvo Olympian:I think TIBS is own by the government..
Anyway... What has happened has happened for the Tibs - SMRT merger and NEL runned by SBS, its time to move on from here... No pt keep on talking abt it, can we change the status? -
SBS wouldn't have lost, judging from their economy of scale with respect to bus services.Originally posted by sbst275:The prob now comes..
If SBS lost then and took over BPJ/ WDL/ YIS corridor and could have merged with SMRT, service changes could happen too...
What I mean is that the NEL should never have been tendered out at all, but instead, placed under the auspices of SMRT. Similar trains as those on the existing lines could have been deployed. The NEL fares may have been more similar to the existing fares as the cost of running the system would be lower than a fully-computerised one as it is now.
Anyway, if Tibs were the landlord at SKG Int, it would be built to accommodate articulated buses, just as WDL and BPJ were. -
Who knows?Originally posted by iveco:SBS wouldn't have lost, judging from their economy of scale with respect to bus services.
What I mean is that the NEL should never have been tendered out at all, but instead, placed under the auspices of SMRT. Similar trains as those on the existing lines could have been deployed. The NEL fares may have been more similar to the existing fares as the cost of running the system would be lower than a fully-computerised one as it is now.
Anyway, if Tibs were the landlord at SKG Int, it would be built to accommodate articulated buses, just as WDL and BPJ were.
Anyway... Dun ever think they custom build SKG Int for the operators, dun forget, the bldg is built by pte developers.. And they based on the design of majority of the buses i.e thats SD and DD as they are more common on SG roads -
U mean our PM?Originally posted by sbst275:Nope... It is BELIEVED only to be controlled by the Lee family... It has no govt direct stakes
Anyway... What has happened has happened for the Tibs - SMRT merger and NEL runned by SBS, its time to move on from here... No pt keep on talking abt it, can we change the status? -
someone instructed me not to say so much incase 2morrow go drink coffee!
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Who?Originally posted by Manager433:someone instructed me not to say so much incase 2morrow go drink coffee! -
both companies are partly under the government la.. u go look at the structure of the company and its management u know already. -_-Originally posted by Volvo Olympian:I think TIBS is own by the government..
i wish that you do not probe anything further or else risk being going to drink free coffee.