anymore non-air con Mercedes double deck around
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Anyone can tell me anymore non-air con Mercedes double deck around which used to ply service 154 ... last time I used to take to Poly.... its my favorite bus ... I wanna take it again
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U mean the 0305 's? It was withdrawn in 2000Originally posted by seancannot:Anyone can tell me anymore non-air con Mercedes double deck around which used to ply service 154 ... last time I used to take to Poly.... its my favorite bus ... I wanna take it again -
THe Merc O305s were mainly based in HGDEP, weren't they?
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These buses are either scrapped or export to other country. I ever seen one 0305 at Bintan resort sometime in year 1999. Maybe it is one of the earlier batch of buses being deregistered.Originally posted by seancannot:Anyone can tell me anymore non-air con Mercedes double deck around which used to ply service 154 ... last time I used to take to Poly.... its my favorite bus ... I wanna take it again -
Yup.Originally posted by iveco:THe Merc O305s were mainly based in HGDEP, weren't they? -
Beside HGDEP, these buses are also based in AMDEP. Mainly for Svc 25 & 134Originally posted by iveco:THe Merc O305s were mainly based in HGDEP, weren't they? -
When 25 was using O305s, 25 was based in HGDEP.Originally posted by IsIsTRD:Beside HGDEP, these buses are also based in AMDEP. Mainly for Svc 25 & 134 -
As well as 166. But the bulk of them were based in HGDEP. Towards the end of their lifespan, I saw them serving 385.Originally posted by IsIsTRD:Beside HGDEP, these buses are also based in AMDEP. Mainly for Svc 25 & 134 -
Withdrawn from 165, a number ended up on 74.Originally posted by iveco:As well as 166. But the bulk of them were based in HGDEP. Towards the end of their lifespan, I saw them serving 385. -
I just saw a non-aircon double deck yesterday, service 154.. not sure if it is mercedes or not though.
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no, it is not mercedes.Originally posted by cornyfish2000:I just saw a non-aircon double deck yesterday, service 154.. not sure if it is mercedes or not though.
these non air-con DDs are known as Volvo Olympian 2-axles, or VO2x.
maybe u can see the pic under Newcomers' Guide and u'll recognise it. -
I really miss the ride.... softly sprung and well damped ... think its the most powerful bus at that time.. everytime I boarded one...I will be elated.... dun feel this way when I take the Leyland though.....especially enjoying travelling along Bt timah road..the nice breezy scenery ... and the young pretty girls from CJC, NJC ,HWJC, NYG... (forgive my buayaness !!!!) riding the bus together with me .... just this simple pleasure could make a young chap so happy... those were the days.... still think is the best bus in my memory
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the merz 0305 was undoubtly the best performing NAC DD to date, as agreed by many bus enthuisasts here.Originally posted by seancannot:I really miss the ride.... softly sprung and well damped ... think its the most powerful bus at that time.. everytime I boarded one...I will be elated.... dun feel this way when I take the Leyland though.....especially enjoying travelling along Bt timah road..the nice breezy scenery ... and the young pretty girls from CJC, NJC ,HWJC, NYG... (forgive my buayaness !!!!) riding the bus together with me .... just this simple pleasure could make a young chap so happy... those were the days.... still think is the best bus in my memory
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I agree too. The most looked forward NAC DD to board back in those times. Leyland Atlantean suspension sux big time. 2nd was Leyland Olympian.Originally posted by service_238:the merz 0305 was undoubtly the best performing NAC DD to date, as agreed by many bus enthuisasts here.
I still luv MB 0305... Bring it back!!! Ahakz. (Air-con version) (Yah rite... Won't happen wan.) -
Haha...maybe if dere was da MB 0305 AC version, SMRT would be interested in purchasing it...really missed the bus..the last time i boarded it was sumwhere in 1999 on 165 SBS 7111 T....took it for granted...Originally posted by bluezombie10:I agree too. The most looked forward NAC DD to board back in those times. Leyland Atlantean suspension sux big time. 2nd was Leyland Olympian.
I still luv MB 0305... Bring it back!!! Ahakz. (Air-con version) (Yah rite... Won't happen wan.) -
LAs suck. The lower deck always had burning rubber stench. I've never really liked this bus. Actually, I don't have nice impressions of Leyland DDs.Originally posted by bluezombie10:I agree too. The most looked forward NAC DD to board back in those times. Leyland Atlantean suspension sux big time. 2nd was Leyland Olympian.
I still luv MB 0305... Bring it back!!! Ahakz. (Air-con version) (Yah rite... Won't happen wan.)
By the way, did HGDEP really take charge of Svc 25? What about 22 & 166? These also had O305s. In fact, 2583 was removed from 154 and transferred to 166. Did it mean this bus was moved to AMDEP or was 166 ever controlled from HGDEP? -
I miss the tick-tock sound of MB0305s.
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As a matter of fact, I've travelled many times in the SBS O305s but have yet to sit at the rear of the upper deck. Is it really ramped, as photographed by Anthony Lui? You can find the pix here.
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Me too!Originally posted by iveco:LAs suck. The lower deck always had burning rubber stench. I've never really liked this bus. Actually, I don't have nice impressions of Leyland DDs.
By the way, did HGDEP really take charge of Svc 25? What about 22 & 166? These also had O305s. In fact, 2583 was removed from 154 and transferred to 166. Did it mean this bus was moved to AMDEP or was 166 ever controlled from HGDEP?
25 and 26 were transfered from HGDEP to AMDEP and BRAM respectively and I don't know when. The 2 services got Volvo fleet from HGDEP. But when transfered, the Volvo fleet didn't go with them. They were in HGDEP could be because HGDEP took charged of some Bedok int services. 166 was never in HGDEP. I believe the bus was transfered to AMDEP. -
25 had Volvo DD or SD fleet? I've not seen B10Ms on this service, only O405s. But VO3Xes dominated 25 for a long time, though.Originally posted by sbs&tibs:Me too!
25 and 26 were transfered from HGDEP to AMDEP and BRAM respectively and I don't know when. The 2 services got Volvo fleet from HGDEP. But when transfered, the Volvo fleet didn't go with them. They were in HGDEP could be because HGDEP took charged of some Bedok int services. 166 was never in HGDEP. I believe the bus was transfered to AMDEP. -
If I can remember correctly, the 0305 was first introduced in 1985/86. I was in Sec 1 then and taking 0305 on SVC 98 , 30, 10 and 240. Not sure majority of the 0305 was based at the Penjuru Depot.
However these 0305 buses only served Jurong Svcs for about a year plus or so before they were being deployed to run on SVC 51, SVC 198, SVC 197 and etc. -
Believe that's the sound of the bus-stop valve, which also exists on the O 405 although sounds less obvious there.Originally posted by SBS3624G:I miss the tick-tock sound of MB0305s.
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Sorry to say this but there are never O305 buses on svc 30 , I have monitored svc 30's fleet everyday and havent seen one on svc 30 before. In addition when Jurong interchange existed , I remembered 196 had O305 for a period of time before LO 2 axles came in when 196 was rerouted to Boon Lay as the jurong interchange was closed.Originally posted by IsIsTRD:If I can remember correctly, the 0305 was first introduced in 1985/86. I was in Sec 1 then and taking 0305 on SVC 98 , 30, 10 and 240. Not sure majority of the 0305 was based at the Penjuru Depot.
However these 0305 buses only served Jurong Svcs for about a year plus or so before they were being deployed to run on SVC 51, SVC 198, SVC 197 and etc. -
High time to start a museum of old but working commercial vehicles here !
Like the Daimler-Benz museum in Germany where the old even vintage models are all still working ones, taken out on rides now & then.
What can be done is to take back some old models, overhaul them & re-use them occasionally for short distance leisure trips, targetting mainly @ tourists & others who want back some old memories & rides ! I won't mind being such a regular customer for such a service ! They can keep least 1 unit of all the old models used here so that people have variety & can compare how well the models ranks amongst themselves & even the current newer ones around, to see if old have to be not better than new or vice-versa.
The M-B O 305 is no doubt a very technically advanced model compared with the Leylands, whether Atantean or Olympian @ the time even some years later !
I believe initially those with Alexander double-deck bodies came with engine encapsulation, which was later removed, exposing the oil sump & the external noise levels then increased somewhat, though still quieter than the lousy junky Atantean bough around the same times.
The (air, in an era where most here only still used springs) suspension ride comfort is 1st class, although more wavy on the upper floor but i'll still maintain is not inferior if not still superior to what you get nowadays on those double-deckers currently here !
The engine sounded to me like a BMW in-6 cylinder engine in running smoothness when crusing. Only the MAN's came close then & even nowadays in this area. Whatever you hear from the engine is 'real' engine sound unlike the Olympians where much of the 'engine' noises actually comes from the noisy radiator air-intake fan @ the front or the side of the vehicle. I admire though the extent which Leyland or Volvo seemed to have tried to imitate the engine sound of the O 305 by fixing such stupid noisy fans which give some artificial illustion of running smoothness, to try to cover up for the inferior running smoothness of their engines ??
The original M-B push-button automatic gear came @ the time when Leyland still used their funny jerky lousy pneuo-cyclic gearboxes, which jerked like hell just before moving off & still jerking all the way aferwards ! The M-B units i find gave the best combination between performance & gear change smoothness although the whinning noise was some irritation, but still less than what the ZF & Voith gearboxes emit nowadays !!
In overview, the O 305 no doubt is among the finest class of citybus ever to exist. The old world style of German engineering does stand the test of time & that's unfortunately where some corners have been cut in the newer models
later ! In many ways old can be better than new, whether in comparison among the same make or even with other makes which came later !Originally posted by seancannot:Anyone can tell me anymore non-air con Mercedes double deck around which used to ply service 154 ... last time I used to take to Poly.... its my favorite bus ... I wanna take it again -
Scrapping a fine class model like O 305 is a stupid waste, if so.
It's too advanced a product to be written off so soon.
If they can keep using a relatively inferior pile of junk like the Volvo B7F somewhere in Ireland (i believe) then no good reason to scrap the O 305 !!
As a PSV, the B7F is a flop with the sort of (spring only while O 305 uses air suspension as standard feature !) suspension ride comfort more suited to transport goods than people ! Also the B7F's dashboard's light years behind time in design ergnomics & aesthetics of vintage era even !! The O 305 much more advanced dashboard still carries on to the O 405 & in some direct way, even to the current model the Citaro.
Re-deployment thus more sensible as i'll even say 25 to 30 years service life for an O 305 is viable.Originally posted by IsIsTRD:These buses are either scrapped or export to other country. I ever seen one 0305 at Bintan resort sometime in year 1999. Maybe it is one of the earlier batch of buses being deregistered.