Scrimp and Save...shame on you SMRT
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Ok guys, enough. I live in all SMRT areas(Yis,BP,CCK,Wdl, BB) in my Whole Life and i know how they work. When SMRTB was tibs, everything was great. Literally, Tibs was a company full of professionalism and enthusiasm, unlike SMRT, which is money-minded as you can see obviously.
When printing route amendments, quality of posters are POOR. But when they put up NEW FARE posters. WHOA!The quality is superb.It is made of hard cardboard and they use laser jet ink cartridges to print it. And new fare guides are so nicely designed.
BUT when they print amendments and service guides, design is so simple and quality is bad...Regardinng the removal of guides issue, true, there are 2 batches printed. One is June 2004 and the other is May 2005. A few weeks prior to the fare adjustments, all of it was removed...SMRT IS PLANNING TO PRINT NEW GUIDES> evidence:8 21/06/2005-12/07/2005 by 1030 hours TENDER NO: QX05-32
DESIGN, PRODUCTION OF ARTWORK AND PRINTING OF TRAVEL INFORMATION FOR TOURISTS AND VISITORS TO SINGAPORE, BY SMRT
ELIGIBILITY:
EPU/SER/18 or EPU/SER/20, Financial Grade S3 and above
DOCUMENT FEE:
S$26.25 each set (Inclusive of GST)
Payment by cheque only (non-refundable)
Cheque payable to SMRT Corporation Ltd -
Well, I don't mind helping them as a part time worker to clean up after army. What do you suggest then, any kang tao to recommend me in?Originally posted by TIB1171R:Okay people, enuf. The buses may be dirty, so unless you want to help SMRT and SBST clean the buses up, i suggest you tone down your complaints here. It would not make any difference.
Let's face it, both companies are trying very hard to earn more profits. If you want them to spend more money on cleaners etc, be prepared to fork out more money for your bus fares as additional costs would ultimately be handed down to passengers. Now, would YOU want that? Unless you tell me you guys actually do your part by helping to pick up litter in the buses and sweeping the collected dust away, I really dont see a need for this thread coz it's simple - it is biased against a company. I am not saying i'm supporting SMRT, it's just that the title of the thread itself goes to show that pple here think badly of the company, let alone the buses. Sigh.
IMO, I don't think SMRT should sacrifice such things to keep costs at their reasonable level. Of course, you're on a different frequency, thus our views differ. Furthermore, there are some frequency problems such wasn't discussed here because I consider them off topic here.
Lastly, I'm not biasing SMRT against SBST. It is more like what has transformed ever since SMRT took over TIBS. -
Thanks bro for the Soltek. Stripped off all the GSCs and slapped Rubycons in. Great board!Originally posted by delonchew:My Soltek board song boh?
Didn't know you are a bus fan too! hehe.
Looks like I'm going to get into some fire fighting, which I don't want to.
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Yeah, how about when I had to wait half an hour for a simple feeder 903, to get me to the interchange during school holiday month nights? I reckon most consumers expect something better, at least within the stated frequency.Originally posted by TIB1171R:Okay.. at least hissing is not so bad. I have TIB1197S groaning.. yes, the sound was like a person farting (but of course louder), whenever the bus turns left. But hey, as long as the bus can get us to our destinations, why bother? Not happy, take alternatives, since u mentioned complaints do not work. -
Originally posted by TIB1171R:
Thanks for the clarification. What we can do is to see whether the guides will be up on the buses once they are ready. I'm ready to give SMRT the benefit of the doubt for this.
Hmm, maybe I can shed some light here since some guys here are kinda mixed up and unaware of what's actually happening -___-". SMRT has printed TWO sets of guides. [b]TWO SETS. One was when SMRT renamed TIBS to SMRTBuses, which was the first print. A reprint took place just last May and June THIS YEAR, which was ONLY ONE TO TWO MONTHS away before the fare hike announcement.
When this reprint took place, loads of guides were seen returning back to the racks INSIDE the buses as well as the racks at the interchanges. Here is where I doubt some of your claims that SMRT did not replenish the guide supply in the buses' racks because SMRT did. The reason why some claimed SMRT did not bother about the lack of guides even after repetitive complaints were simple.
1) They were not observant enough.
2) They dont take SMRT buses frequently enough. I am not saying those who do not live in SMRT areas are not unaware coz they might take SMRT buses more frequently even if they live in SBST areas.
The cut-off date for these second batch was May and June 2005, depending on the towns and depots producing them. I am more inclined to think that those who said that SMRT guides can still be found should be the ones that are supposed to "travel out" and see for themselves before posting fake info. SMRT has recalled ALL guides since the fare hike announcement. It would be irresponsible of them to continue distributing outdated info, and this they know.[/b]
Chilling out of here to get some rest for SOC tomorrow. Cheers.
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okay... regardin to my last post in this thread.. Im sorry about that.. I apologise.. regardin to the empty guide racks, i thought that the forum member was referrin to the days after the Fare hike and nt Before the fare hike.. I apologise to that.. Peace...
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903 might just get stuck at Woodlands Centre.Originally posted by BluBlur:Yeah, how about when I had to wait half an hour for a simple feeder 903, to get me to the interchange during school holiday month nights? I reckon most consumers expect something better, at least within the stated frequency. -
Originally posted by TIB1171R:
I noe that BB, Wdl only have new fares guide at da rack for a long tyme already.....on 3 July 2005, when da fare hike was already into effect, CCK still had the bus guidez for itz services....i was dere to see da construction works..after my joy ride on 48...not sure... if da guides are still dere.... will go see again....
Hmm, maybe I can shed some light here since some guys here are kinda mixed up and unaware of what's actually happening -___-". SMRT has printed TWO sets of guides. [b]TWO SETS. One was when SMRT renamed TIBS to SMRTBuses, which was the first print. A reprint took place just last May and June THIS YEAR, which was ONLY ONE TO TWO MONTHS away before the fare hike announcement.
When this reprint took place, loads of guides were seen returning back to the racks INSIDE the buses as well as the racks at the interchanges. Here is where I doubt some of your claims that SMRT did not replenish the guide supply in the buses' racks because SMRT did. The reason why some claimed SMRT did not bother about the lack of guides even after repetitive complaints were simple.
1) They were not observant enough.
2) They dont take SMRT buses frequently enough. I am not saying those who do not live in SMRT areas are not unaware coz they might take SMRT buses more frequently even if they live in SBST areas.
The cut-off date for these second batch was May and June 2005, depending on the towns and depots producing them. I am more inclined to think that those who said that SMRT guides can still be found should be the ones that are supposed to "travel out" and see for themselves before posting fake info. SMRT has recalled ALL guides since the fare hike announcement. It would be irresponsible of them to continue distributing outdated info, and this they know.[/b] -
The total no. of buses was at 4 during school holiday evenings (after 7.15PM). It drops to 3 after 8-9PM, however this might not have happened during hols.Originally posted by off_service:903 might just get stuck at Woodlands Centre.
I'm sure they have anticipated the jam, thus putting up posters on windscreens stating of possible divertions. Without putting a contingency bus on duty, if any 2 joins the jam due to misjudgement, the total number drops to 2 which is extremely tight for such a high traffic feeder service that takes an average of 35 mins for 1 trip. -
Anyway in my own opinion, there is no need for a fare hike at all. Just look at SMRT's profits. Hardly justifies for the fare hike.
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Let prepare for another fare hike few years from now.Originally posted by gohby:Anyway in my own opinion, there is no need for a fare hike at all. Just look at SMRT's profits. Hardly justifies for the fare hike.
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unlike SMRT, SBS relies on advertising and overseas operations (35%) for its other source of revenue, excluding the local bus services.. if SBS were to continuing to run in this manner with no other source of revenue like advertising and overseas ventures, just local buses alone, i think it wont survive long independently..Originally posted by gohby:Anyway in my own opinion, there is no need for a fare hike at all. Just look at SMRT's profits. Hardly justifies for the fare hike.
however, SMRT has a very good trains network and 1 million trips made per day on its trains.. bus loads also not bad (due to long freq i guess).. this really dont justify its fare hike, or even its outragous proposed new fare application structure.