Services which "beats around the bush"

• medicheng

  8 Jul 05, 09:13

  Originally posted by hisoka:

  pple forgot to add that the beating about the bush also cheats pple of money by adding stops

  fare is decided by fare stages aka distance and not adding more stops in the middles...
• samtlk

  8 Jul 05, 10:40

  Originally posted by medicheng:

  fare is decided by fare stages aka distance and not adding more stops in the middles...

  there are places where stops are added without any changes to the fare stages
• hisoka

  8 Jul 05, 11:14

  Originally posted by medicheng:

  fare is decided by fare stages aka distance and not adding more stops in the middles...

  hmm but fare stages is by the number of stops or distance travelled which increases due to the extension of the route? not sure about this but sounds logical.
  
  anyway i know one service that i take where the fare i pay has increased due to the change in route to make one more extra loop.
• medicheng

  8 Jul 05, 11:56

  there is a service in the middle always maintain 8.5 stages for around 10 bus stops...
• tranquilice

  8 Jul 05, 16:03

  Originally posted by hisoka:

  hmm but fare stages is by the number of stops or distance travelled which increases due to the extension of the route? not sure about this but sounds logical.
  
  anyway i know one service that i take where the fare i pay has increased due to the change in route to make one more extra loop.

  Fare stage is by distance travelled. 1 fare stage is about 0.8km. The fare stages coincide with specific bus stops of each route.
  
  So, the longer the distance travelled, the more fare stages which means passengers pay a higher fare.
  
  For example, a bus ride from Woodlands Regional interchange to Admiralty Rd West Singapore Maritime Academy. Can take either services 169 or 856. The fare is $0.85 by ezlink for service 169 while the fare is $1.15 by ezlink for service 856 due to the longer route.
• tranquilice

  8 Jul 05, 16:04

  Originally posted by medicheng:

  there is a service in the middle always maintain 8.5 stages for around 10 bus stops...

  Service 112?
• Townlink 268

  8 Jul 05, 18:33

  Originally posted by medicheng:

  fare is decided by fare stages aka distance and not adding more stops in the middles...

  take an example of: sv86, 163, 371 from SKG to jalan kayu (aft SKG west ave) 86 charged 103c, 163 charge 83c, and 371 charge 63c. fares dated 2004. also, look at sv518 bush beating within pasir ris int to dr 1 (PR park), or ex 501 and 502.. most amended services will retain the same fare stages, unless amendment is on a service end-destination, not mid-way
  
  

  Originally posted by medicheng:

  there is a service in the middle always maintain 8.5 stages for around 10 bus stops...

  sv112.. sv155 also maintains stage 8.5 for direction towards MP..
  
  
• sbst275

  8 Jul 05, 21:38

  Originally posted by tranquilice:

  Service 74. Takes a long way from Buona Vista to Bukit Timah and vice-versa.
  
  Service 78. Goes one big round along Pandan Rd/Tanjong Penjuru. Passengers going from West Coast Rd to Teban Gardens and vice-versa would rather take service 143.
  
  Service 131. "Detour" into Farrer Park estate.
  
  Service 229. For passengers boarding in Bedok South, at one point the bus is near Bedok interchange already, but still has to "detour" to ply Chai Chee. Same case for service 811.
  
  Service 856. Goes one big round in Woodlands before reaching Senoko.
  

  Bus 74? But then, no bus from Bt Timah to Buona Vista
  
  Sv 229... Hmm, maybe to link up Chai Chee and Bedok Sth
  
  Sv 131? Have to serve there what, otherwise bo bus
• Townlink 268

  8 Jul 05, 23:03

  if u see sv800 rt, its the worst.. from ave 5 to YIS int, iy has to go one big round into ave 7 b4 going to int, when at ave 5, its directly opposite the int..
• tranquilice

  9 Jul 05, 01:14

  Originally posted by sbst275:

  Bus 74? But then, no bus from Bt Timah to Buona Vista
  

  There's service 48 from some part of Bt Timah to Buona Vista. Service 74 connects the other part of Bt Timah not served by service 48 to Buona Vista.
• tranquilice

  9 Jul 05, 01:35

  Originally posted by Townlink 268:

  if u see sv800 rt, its the worst.. from ave 5 to YIS int, iy has to go one big round into ave 7 b4 going to int, when at ave 5, its directly opposite the int..

  I think you mean IntraTown 811. Service 800 doesn't ply Yishun Ave 5.
• sbst275

  9 Jul 05, 10:38

  Originally posted by tranquilice:

  There's service 48 from some part of Bt Timah to Buona Vista. Service 74 connects the other part of Bt Timah not served by service 48 to Buona Vista.

  They have their own stretch talking abt this
• sbst275

  9 Jul 05, 11:01

  Dun forget, those svs that was 'extended' to serve NEL stn i.e Sv 125, all their fare stages remained unchange
  
  Sv 101 as well @ Buangkok
  
  Sv 961 @ Marina Ctr too
• 105090

  9 Jul 05, 12:23

  extending the routes waste a commuter's time, and if fare stages are increased simultaneously, it will create a uproar..
  
  the fare stages thing, applies only to a new service, or an exisitng one, and if the svc's route is not amended at any of its 2 terminating points, the overall no. of fare stages remains the same.. changes in route midpoint, usually a small detour/deviation, will not usually cause an increase, as in the case of the NEL svcs
• 105090

  9 Jul 05, 12:33

  Originally posted by tranquilice:

  I think you mean IntraTown 811. Service 800 doesn't ply Yishun Ave 5.

  yeah.. sorry, its the 811..
  thanks
• iveco

  9 Jul 05, 12:36

  Originally posted by 105090:

  extending the routes waste a commuter's time, and if fare stages are increased simultaneously, it will create a uproar..
  
  the fare stages thing, applies only to a new service, or an exisitng one, and if the svc's route is not amended at any of its 2 terminating points, the overall no. of fare stages remains the same.. changes in route midpoint, usually a small detour/deviation, will not usually cause an increase, as in the case of the NEL svcs

  But 139 fare stages became 24+24 after the St Mikes deviation. It used to be 21+21.
• sbs&tibs

  9 Jul 05, 13:29

  Service 38
  But without this service, people are going to complain about inconvenience! No DDs in this service although demand quite good, due to narrow roads along Simei Estate.
  
  Service 3
  Go roundabout in Pasir Ris to cover up the withdrawn 357 route. Also, due to narrow roads in Pasir Ris, no DDs are deployed on 3.
• Townlink 268

  10 Jul 05, 00:09

  Originally posted by iveco:

  But 139 fare stages became 24+24 after the St Mikes deviation. It used to be 21+21.

  hmm.. interesting.. but in an email reply about this type of case, they replied that the difference is small, and the fare is "generally consistent" QUOTED from EMAIL REPLY:
  
  However, it is still under the fare band of 1 to 4 fare stages or equivalent to the minimum fare of $0.63. Also, the fare payable between the forward and return journeys will be consistent.
  
  

  Originally posted by sbs&tibs:
  [b]Service 38
  But without this service, people are going to complain about inconvenience! No DDs in this service although demand quite good, due to narrow roads along Simei Estate.
  
  Service 3
  Go roundabout in Pasir Ris to cover up the withdrawn 357 route. Also, due to narrow roads in Pasir Ris, no DDs are deployed on 3.[/b]

  sv3 38 60 101 112 113 are all former feeder services merged, thats why they are super bush beaters..
• SBS9811T

  10 Jul 05, 22:38

  What about 63?
• 105090

  10 Jul 05, 22:57

  Originally posted by SBS9811T:

  What about 63?

  extended and replaced sv382, so have to beat bush
  if you noticed, sv163 fare stages are brought down to match 371 range of 63 cents to fernvale lane..
  off-topic: sv3 f/s was adjusted by minus 1 in the express sector of TPE one day after extended to punggol