Bishan 58 Pasir Ris (New Service!)

• muziq bus

  28 Jul 05, 08:18

  ok, i dunno where to put this...
  so i juz put here....no war please
  
  i enquired on whether SMRT will introduce new services... i told dem sbst intro 4 services diz month and i asked whether yew tee n bt panjang will get new svc...this is da reply...
  
  Thank you for your email.
  
  n o ya, i like da idea of svc 58 plyin Ubi Ave 3...coz derz a warehouse dere dat i usually frequent...n derez a big police station dere which in da past i had trouble going to..
  
• iamgoondu

  28 Jul 05, 09:25

  she said towns that we served. so which are the towns sbst served? if sbst free to roam in sg roads, why not expand to all towns.
• Zilchster

  28 Jul 05, 10:25

  Firstly, it would be appreciated if you do not post the other party's name and contact no out.
  
  Secondly, writing in to Company A and telling them that Company B had introduced 4 new services in one month is a very hilarious thing to do. I am sure Company A knows that Company B has introduced 4 new svc without u telling them so. What u are trying to imply...since A has intro 4 new svc therefore B should also intro new svc too...wat kinda logic is this...u can't intro new svc just for the sake of introducing...they have to consider their resources and whether there's a demand for the route...subsequently...their plans have to be approved by the LTA...
  
  Next time remember, do not include the names of the other parties when u post any reply u get online. And do yourself and the companies a favour...stop sending this kinda funny requests/questions to bus companies.
  
  

  Originally posted by muziq bus:

  ok, i dunno where to put this...
  so i juz put here....no war please
  
  i enquired on whether SMRT will introduce new services... i told dem sbst intro 4 services diz month and i asked whether yew tee n bt panjang will get new svc...this is da reply...
  
  Thank you for your email.
  
  We wish to assure you that we have been monitoring the service requirements of our commuters in the towns that we serve. If we have any information to share with regard to new services, please be assured that we will keep the residents informed.
  
  Thank you once again for your feedback.
  
  Best regards
  
  XXXXXX (Ms)
  XXXXX
  XXXX
  XXXX
  
  diz was my message....(edited)
  Message : SMRT had only introduced 950 but SBS Transit have already
  planned to introduced 4 services in one month. Residents in Yew Tee, Bukit
  Panjang have been hoping for a new service. Is SMRT not keen to introduce
  new services and instead wants the people to take the trains instead.
  
  n o ya, i like da idea of svc 58 plyin Ubi Ave 3...coz derz a warehouse dere dat i usually frequent...n derez a big police station dere which in da past i had trouble going to..
  

• iamgoondu

  28 Jul 05, 11:08

  duplicate post.
• iamgoondu

  28 Jul 05, 11:10

  i see no wrong in muziq request to smrt. he could have sent the same request to sbst, since sbst is free to roam in all corners. that would wake up smrt. of course he should mask the name.
• muziq bus

  28 Jul 05, 13:28

  fyi, i had even enquire smrt on this even b4 sbst as well, have u even tried going to yew tee n BP area? where lrt serves..
  that was just another sample answer...
  dey keep sayin that they do monitor the situation dere..but we all noe it is not really dat true...
  
  n oh, to the zilchster guy,
  i notice that all your comments are potential argument starter...
• iveco

  28 Jul 05, 13:34

  Originally posted by muziq bus:

  fyi, i had even enquire smrt on this even b4 sbst as well, have u even tried going to yew tee n BP area? where lrt serves..
  that was just another sample answer...
  dey keep sayin that they do monitor the situation dere..but we all noe it is not really dat true...
  

  BPJ residents had complained to Zaobao regarding the sorry state of bus services in tehir estate, but nothing had been done. THis shows the low opinion SMRT has for their bus ops.
• Zilchster

  28 Jul 05, 14:33

  I can't deny that my comments may stir controversy or unhappiness from people like you muziq bus as well as others. If you wish you argue over what I've said, I have nothing to say. What I speak is the truth. It's really harmless. It escalates into an argument when you try to defend your actions.
  
  I understand that Bukit Panjang and Yew Tee may not have enough bus services. However, bus companies also need to consider whether they have enough resources to introduce new buses, whether there's ridership and a market for that new service. They will need to go through the LTA for approval too. It is not a race between bus companies to see who introduce more new bus services.
  
  By the way, telling Company A about what Company B is doing when Company A is aware of is pretty extra on your part. Come on, what is that you wish to achieve? If you think is the way of pressurising them to introduce new bus services, that is so childish. Sending this kind of mails would irritate them, because there's nothing constructive in them. It's as good as this - Since A is doing this, there you must do this. Why don't I see you doing that. As I said above, it's not about competing to see who introduce more bus services. To be more constructive, why don't you suggest to them where to introduce new routes to. Or if you wish, you can take to task with the MPs of the respective new towns into talking to bus company.
  
  Why don't you go reflect on what I've said and see if it makes some sense, and see if you can be more constructive next time?
  
  And yes, it's not very nice to put the person's name and exact title from the response in the public. Please show some respect for the other party's privacy would you?
• muziq bus

  28 Jul 05, 15:26

  the name i forgot to mask coz i copy and paste...sorry 4 dat..
  da zabao complain part...i recalled that the reply given was to take the lrt/mrt
  
  i shall not entertain any replies or comments on this..
  
  u guys noticed? the tAmpines north wafer fab benefits from both 58 n 34... its good for the workers there...
  
• iveco

  28 Jul 05, 17:43

  Originally posted by Zilchster:

  I understand that Bukit Panjang and Yew Tee may not have enough bus services. However, bus companies also need to consider whether they have enough resources to introduce new buses, whether there's ridership and a market for that new service. They will need to go through the LTA for approval too. It is not a race between bus companies to see who introduce more new bus services.
  
  By the way, telling Company A about what Company B is doing when Company A is aware of is pretty extra on your part. Come on, what is that you wish to achieve? If you think is the way of pressurising them to introduce new bus services, that is so childish. Sending this kind of mails would irritate them, because there's nothing constructive in them. It's as good as this - Since A is doing this, there you must do this. Why don't I see you doing that. As I said above, it's not about competing to see who introduce more bus services. To be more constructive, why don't you suggest to them where to introduce new routes to. Or if you wish, you can take to task with the MPs of the respective new towns into talking to bus company.
  

  I think BPJ and SBW residents should heckle Gan Kim Yong and Warren Lee to make SMRT wake up their bloody ideas. Penny Low did a great job for PGL folks. Just look at the transport links in that area today..
• iamgoondu

  28 Jul 05, 21:18

  Originally posted by iveco:

  I think BPJ and SBW residents should heckle Gan Kim Yong and Warren Lee to make SMRT wake up their bloody ideas. Penny Low did a great job for PGL folks. Just look at the transport links in that area today..

  Why single out SMRT? If SBST is free to roam in all parts of Singapore, seek help from both SBST as well. If SMRT rejects proposed new service route, suggest same route to SBST. SMRT or LTA should not stop SBST from initiating new routes in those areas.
• SBS9889U

  28 Jul 05, 21:33

  The best is to feedback to MP or PTA/LTA instead of only a company.
• iamgoondu

  28 Jul 05, 22:34

  According to HDB, http://www.hdb.gov.sg/isoa031p.nsf/ImageView/AR2000/$file/P67-80HDB.pdf
  
  In 00/01, Sembawang had 14035 units, CCK had 35195 units.
  
  PTC had the following service audit in 2003:
  
  Number of trunk services for each HDB town based on Dwelling Units (DU) 1 per 3,000 DUs (no MRT) or 1 per 3,500 DUs (with MRT)
  
  Based on above fact, Sembawang should have 4 trunk services, and CCK should have 10 trunk services.
  
  And now Sembawang has 4 trunk services?
  
  Remember the number of dwelling units were as at mar00.
• tranquilice

  28 Jul 05, 23:26

  Originally posted by iamgoondu:

  Based on above fact, Sembawang should have 4 trunk services, and CCK should have 10 trunk services.
  
  And now Sembawang has 4 trunk services?
  
  Remember the number of dwelling units were as at mar00.

  Sembawang town currently has 6 trunk services 167, 856, 859, 962, 980 and 981. As for Choa Chu Kang town, currently it has 8 trunk services 67, 172, 188, 190, 925, 927, 975 and 985.
  
  And yes, they are trunk services no matter the length of the routes or whether they operate at peak hours or not.
• phillipC

  29 Jul 05, 21:33

  One word to say about SMRT - mo chap!
  
  no interest in bus operations. and cut corners here and there.
  live example are, trains are damn crowded, be it peak hour and non peak hour.
  same goes to the bus services.
  
  SMRT is hopelessly hopeless!
• iamgoondu

  29 Jul 05, 21:47

  Originally posted by tranquilice:

  Sembawang town currently has 6 trunk services 167, 856, 859, 962, 980 and 981. As for Choa Chu Kang town, currently it has 8 trunk services 67, 172, 188, 190, 925, 927, 975 and 985.
  
  And yes, they are trunk services no matter the length of the routes or whether they operate at peak hours or not.

  So CCK still short of 2 trunk services!
• tranquilice

  30 Jul 05, 01:22

  Originally posted by iamgoondu:

  So CCK still short of 2 trunk services!

  Not only 2, Choa Chu Kang needs more than that.
• Airbus330Captain

  30 Jul 05, 01:52

  Please get back to the topic if not I will close this thread, thanks.
• iveco

  30 Jul 05, 10:53

  Tranq says S'goon Ave 2/3 are not suitabe for DD. In what sense?
• 105090

  30 Jul 05, 10:57

  Originally posted by iveco:

  Tranq says S'goon Ave 2/3 are not suitabe for DD. In what sense?

  guess the road is narrow and DDs may be noisy.. then how bout sv28 in TAM st45/32? is it narrow as well?
• No_10_Tomas_Rosicky

  30 Jul 05, 17:16

  Originally posted by 105090:

  guess the road is narrow and DDs may be noisy.. then how bout sv28 in TAM st45/32? is it narrow as well?

  Please get back to the topic if not I will ask airbuscaptain33 to close this thread, thanks.
  
  Only Sv 58 is allowed to be discuss. No other services
  
• SBS9828X

  30 Jul 05, 17:26

  Originally posted by No_10_Tomas_Rosicky:

  Please get back to the topic if not I will ask airbuscaptain33 to close this thread, thanks.
  
  Only Sv 58 is allowed to be discuss. No other services
  

  hey his just comparing lah... not like some other ppl here who go untill not related.
  
  Btw, yup the road @ st 32 there is narrow. But its possible for DD as u can see
• <RoBiN>

  30 Jul 05, 17:29

  Originally posted by No_10_Tomas_Rosicky:

  Please get back to the topic if not I will ask airbuscaptain33 to close this thread, thanks.
  
  Only Sv 58 is allowed to be discuss. No other services
  

  Dun get so fuss up....
  he just comparing the two narrow roads...
• fouf_cfk

  30 Jul 05, 20:44

  I am getting confused now. Someone please HELP!
  How on earth did this thread about svc 58 become a thread on roads, Choa Chu Kang, Sembawang, Bukit Panjang? Nothing related right? Don't mislead people until the facts are totally distorted. Please don't be way too off topic. Thanks.
• phillipC

  30 Jul 05, 21:03

  maybe we shall discuss it under the heading
  " Allow SBST to operate services in SMRT's territories"