State of CT/ Citybuzz Buses
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CT18 has good ridership in the morning all the while, so is CT8 but CT28 i got nothing to say, should have been extended to Jurong East.Originally posted by 105090:CT8 buses does 268 in the AM peak and PM peak, but the buses used has changed.. all are OACs now.. today just took SBS334M (57) on CT8!!
anyway, u cant say CT buses has no business.
only the 3rd trip of saturday (1125 hours) at AMK ave 10, the bus is full. on the return trip at 3pm++, ppl cheong to get up CT18.. cant say much for CT28 tho.. apparently, CT8 freq is shifted. it does 1 less trip per day now..
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mornings?Originally posted by SBS9889U:CT18 has good ridership in the morning all the while, so is CT8 but CT28 i got nothing to say, should have been extended to Jurong East.
and the CT buses if too long route ppl wont take it.. but true, CT28 has too few stops.. and the buses cant duplicate MRT -
little boy why are you so naughty? *beat* *beat*Originally posted by SBS9828X:anyhow snapaunty face... u sure can anot post her face?? if not edit k
k.. the pic is edited. 
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Never mind with them, they want to screw the way on how they want to make profit not my business, but dun tell me of increase fares on Ind SvsOriginally posted by SBS9611D:As you said, industrial servces are rotting in hell while the newest and best buses are deployed on the money-losing Citybuzz routes.
Another interesting is that, the tourist esp from the West prefer NAC bus rides as they want to enjoy the heat and sun -
Tell sbst cut off the top of VO2X lah... or better still cut off The top of VSO.... cant they see that tourist like open view...Originally posted by sbst275:Never mind with them, they want to screw the way on how they want to make profit not my business, but dun tell me of increase fares on Ind Svs
Another interesting is that, the tourist esp from the West prefer NAC bus rides as they want to enjoy the heat and sun
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Rather use VO2x, dun need to do any works on keeping lower deck cool...Originally posted by SBS9828X:Tell sbst cut off the top of VO2X lah... or better still cut off The top of VSO.... cant they see that tourist like open view...
But apparently, SBS like to piss Ind Svs passengers... The way they are doing, more will drive... Anyway that report on lower passenger ridership, I suspect more is to Ind Svs... -
The best is dif SBS attitude..
Ind Svs, they are stubborn to say Ind Svs passenger dun want aircon bus... So that gives them advantage to overload the buses ar?
Then Svs like CityBuzz, so willing to deploy even VSOs
(This has reminded me, they are treating workers that power our economy as 3rd class passengers, see the Ind Svs. Yet the tourist are treated better... Like this, is not doing good to SG) -
ah, anyone can comment about the labrador park bus? never taken it personally. As for industrial services, there's a flat fee or smth if i'm not mistaken. As with all flat fee services past and present, the service standards are just not met.
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Where got? Min fare is $0.59, max is $1.00Originally posted by jonsteadinho:ah, anyone can comment about the labrador park bus? never taken it personally. As for industrial services, there's a flat fee or smth if i'm not mistaken. As with all flat fee services past and present, the service standards are just not met.
Flat fare sv service standard not met?? See their demand, 12 mins demand pathetic... Then Ind Svs overloading, nothing done (In fact, SBS fabricated loading fig) -
max fee $1 min fee $0.59, lower than that of trunk services. so yea....
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Then why you said Flat Fare???Originally posted by jonsteadinho:max fee $1 min fee $0.59, lower than that of trunk services. so yea....
Isn't fares for fare stages bet 0.5 and 13.0 is same as trunk sv? -
he mean bout the fare cap?
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CityBuzz the flat fare is $1.00 even though you only travel for one stops for more than that it is still $1.00 for both ez-link and cash. Concession Pass and Fares are not allowed like students and senior citizens still need to pay $1.00 even though they have different fare from the adult. This unfair man we students still need to pay $1 !!!!! and not $0.45 or $0.55
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Special Svs mahOriginally posted by gorby107:CityBuzz the flat fare is $1.00 even though you only travel for one stops for more than that it is still $1.00 for both ez-link and cash. Concession Pass and Fares are not allowed like students and senior citizens still need to pay $1.00 even though they have different fare from the adult. This unfair man we students still need to pay $1 !!!!! and not $0.45 or $0.55
Students pay $0.45/ $0.40 meh??? All meh? -
The CT svs, OK lah...
But frequency of 30-35 mins, killer. -
by Singapore standards, do you all know that paying 45c for basic services is already very cheap?? (45c for Primary, Secondary, ITE, JC) adults pay a minimum fare of 64c already. and as what PTC claims, concession fares are cross-subsidised by full-paying adult fares. (maybe the fare of 45c are understated, and adult fares are overstated).Originally posted by gorby107:CityBuzz the flat fare is $1.00 even though you only travel for one stops for more than that it is still $1.00 for both ez-link and cash. Concession Pass and Fares are not allowed like students and senior citizens still need to pay $1.00 even though they have different fare from the adult. This unfair man we students still need to pay $1 !!!!! and not $0.45 or $0.55
also, Citybuzz main target are tourists. and yes, its fares at $1 is admittedly cheap. the minimum cash fare for trunk services is now at 90c minimum, and on board crowded buses. still, the freq is also deteriorating
Chinatown Direct services are targetted at Senior Citizens, though children gets a special fare of $1.00 for an Express Service. Freq is at 30-35 mins, means you cant rely on them to get to other destinations if you are in a hurry.
Express Services (eg.sv506) are premium services also targetted at working adults. Students can hardly be seen taking them, and they may not have any reason to, as express services cross towns for long distances, and which students go to schools nearby their homes...
of course, IMO, i dare say SBS does not really like concession holders as this means a decrease in fare revenue. one adult tap will yield 65c up to 156c. one child will only earns 45c.. of course the adult fare is preferred. and there is this pattern of BC disliking students and may give them "special treatment" i had seen it.. bahhhh.
still, many 45c passengers are picky when they uses BCP and prevent themselves from taking Express or MRT (cannot be used with BCP). so.. wheres the conflict? i guess the high fares are to deter certain groups of passengers from taking the services, which m not complaining as i excercise flexibility as an adult-paying passenger.. -
By right, I forsee a conflict of interest...
Students buy AC stamp, by right majority AC fleet should be deployed. This is service industry.
If they buy NAC stamp, then what sort of SBS buses would be deployed? -
thats right. example is sv151 and sv74. Students or rather concesion pass holders all have to buy AC passes and sometimes or always get NAC ones.. if NAC pass take AC bus, top up 10c. why AC pass board NAC pass never rebate 10c ??Originally posted by sbst275:By right, I forsee a conflict of interest...
Students buy AC stamp, by right majority AC fleet should be deployed. This is service industry.
If they buy NAC stamp, then what sort of SBS buses would be deployed? this is business.. -
They earn the extras...Originally posted by 105090:thats right. example is sv151 and sv74. Students or rather concesion pass holders all have to buy AC passes and sometimes or always get NAC ones.. if NAC pass take AC bus, top up 10c. why AC pass board NAC pass never rebate 10c ?? this is business..
Anyway, I never believed in using concession pass, NS time, forget it... Always end up NAC buses, no thks to them earn extra for svs that they did provide
If it is Poly/ Uni or NSmen, should be 25c rebate -
Originally posted by 105090:
Express 506 has considerable amount(1-3) of students taking it in the early morning and afternoon, 3-5pm on each bus.
by Singapore standards, do you all know that paying 45c for basic services is already very cheap?? (45c for Primary, Secondary, ITE, [b]JC) adults pay a minimum fare of 64c already. and as what PTC claims, concession fares are cross-subsidised by full-paying adult fares. (maybe the fare of 45c are understated, and adult fares are overstated).
also, Citybuzz main target are tourists. and yes, its fares at $1 is admittedly cheap. the minimum cash fare for trunk services is now at 90c minimum, and on board crowded buses. still, the freq is also deteriorating
Chinatown Direct services are targetted at Senior Citizens, though children gets a special fare of $1.00 for an Express Service. Freq is at 30-35 mins, means you cant rely on them to get to other destinations if you are in a hurry.
Express Services (eg.sv506) are premium services also targetted at working adults. Students can hardly be seen taking them, and they may not have any reason to, as express services cross towns for long distances, and which students go to schools nearby their homes...
of course, IMO, i dare say SBS does not really like concession holders as this means a decrease in fare revenue. one adult tap will yield 65c up to 156c. one child will only earns 45c.. of course the adult fare is preferred. and there is this pattern of BC disliking students and may give them "special treatment" i had seen it.. bahhhh.
still, many 45c passengers are picky when they uses BCP and prevent themselves from taking Express or MRT (cannot be used with BCP). so.. wheres the conflict? i guess the high fares are to deter certain groups of passengers from taking the services, which m not complaining as i excercise flexibility as an adult-paying passenger.. [/b] -
Those students are rich and can afford those type of expensive fares which they are just happily closing their eyes to give their money to SBST while they are enjoying the fast and shorten ride to their destination. Or maybe they are not rich and just rushing for times for something as not a lot of people willing to take Express Service so the bus can skip some bus stop and the journey is faster????Originally posted by SBS9889U:Express 506 has considerable amount(1-3) of students taking it in the early morning and afternoon, 3-5pm on each bus. -
The fact is that on services that yield less income, e.g. industrial services where adults pay 59c to $1 compared to 64c to $1.64 on trunk services, standards tend to be lower. We must be prepared to pay more, as SBS is now run like a business.
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yes yes, we know you are one of the students taking Express 506 regularly.. still, $2 a trip isnt really a lot to some ppl..Originally posted by SBS9889U:Express 506 has considerable amount(1-3) of students taking it in the early morning and afternoon, 3-5pm on each bus.
and yes, SBS is ran like a business, but then, tell me which service industry or company isnt ran like a business with profit-interests? if a charity like NKF is running better than a business, then the same may go to other prganisations as well. in singapore, with no subsidies and ridiculously high taxes, no one is playing santa claus.. and, no one will want to run a losing business right? -
I think you misjudged everything about SBST bus deployment,It is PTC regulation that Some NAC buses should stay at least for another year.SBST Do want to scrap all those NAC buses this year but some internal issues hold that back!You think all peoples dislikes NAC buses,Think about some peoples who had problems with AC.Don't talk rubbish here and do a research at PTC ask them why!Originally posted by sbst275:By right, I forsee a conflict of interest...
Students buy AC stamp, by right majority AC fleet should be deployed. This is service industry.
If they buy NAC stamp, then what sort of SBS buses would be deployed?
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Sometimes i find that Some peoples are funny,They don't mind paying extra for taxis/Clothes/Cigarettes but complain a lot about 1-10 cent increaseOriginally posted by sbst275:Then why you said Flat Fare???
Isn't fares for fare stages bet 0.5 and 13.0 is same as trunk sv?
Want to own a car?Can,But be prepared for the parking charges/Fines/Maintenances/Insurances/Higher ERP Charges.I heard a rumour saying that once the CCL Phase 1 & 2 completed,The prices of a car will shoot ups to 3x more
C'mon lah at least they got some brains for senior citizens right?
Some Metroline Officials visit SBST Depots this year and commented that we are lucky to have quite a good bus frequencies,TV Mobile(Yes like it or not,They say only touring coaches had them not citybuses)and quite affordable bus fares although majority of SBST buses looks ugly!