Nostalgia on Buses
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This is a thread for question & answers regarding about past bus services/Interchanges/Terminals and bus models.
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Did JRDEP (Penjuru) ever take charge of any CLE service before?
Also, was 92 (CLE-PLAB) from BBDEP or ARBP? -
i chanced upon a website, and needs to know some answers to:
when was there TIBS Sv 184A (Ends At Ngee Ann Poly) i even saw a photo of it inside NP..
and when did sv712A (P.Sakra) operates or exists? -
Can anybody tell me more about the older buses, those engines in the font ?, like the OF's, MB 03xx, Leyland Victory, the Vkings ? Because I was born in 1992 so I don't know any of them. Also anybody knows facts of these old buses can also show us.
Thanks in advance.
WISHES SINGAPORE A HAPPY 40th NATIONAL DAY AND TO ALL PEOPLE A HAPPY NATIONAL DAY HOLIDAY -
Hmm...Must ask the bus history experts like Suhirman or TranquilIce.They should provide some answersOriginally posted by 105090:i chanced upon a website, and needs to know some answers to:
when was there TIBS Sv 184A (Ends At Ngee Ann Poly) i even saw a photo of it inside NP..
and when did sv712A (P.Sakra) operates or exists?
Did JRDEP (Penjuru) ever take charge of any CLE service before?
Also, was 92 (CLE-PLAB) from BBDEP or ARBP?
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I'm sorry. Bus depot deployments are not my forte. I'm more into route and technical details.Originally posted by carbikebus:Hmm...Must ask the bus history experts like Suhirman or TranquilIce.They should provide some answers 
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Wow! This is a tall order! I'd suggest you get a copy of Mr. Mike Davis' new book. The answers are all inside; a real treasure trove.Originally posted by CAIX:Can anybody tell me more about the older buses, those engines in the font ?, like the OF's, MB 03xx, Leyland Victory, the Vkings ? Because I was born in 1992 so I don't know any of them. Also anybody knows facts of these old buses can also show us.
Thanks in advance.
WISHES SINGAPORE A HAPPY 40th NATIONAL DAY AND TO ALL PEOPLE A HAPPY NATIONAL DAY HOLIDAY
OK, which one do you want to start first? How about the Albion Viking? This was the first major order of new buses by SBS. They were of the EVK55 type, which was an improvement over the earlier EVK41 type, with dual air braking system. 255 buses were ordered altogether, 155 of which were EVK55CL (9813mm length) and the rest being the longer EVK55CUL (11790mm length).
All were bodied by Soon Chow with ribbed side panels. Seating capacities varied but in general, the EVK55CL could carry 41 while the EVK55CUL 55 passengers.
Both variants were powered by a Leyland O.401, 6075cc diesel engine with manual clutch and 4-speed constant mesh gearbox. (The Albion Viking didn't have crash gearboxes as I previously thought). The Vikings were introduced from 1975 - 1977 and were fully withdrawn by 1992. -
Originally posted by 105090:
2000 to around 2002? not very sure though.. this sv. used DM CAC MB0405s
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Yes, I'm waiting for his book to be delivered. I have already ordered. As well, thanks for the information. IMO, SBS uses most of the leyland buses in the past. The last of the NAC DD Leyland is Leyland Atlantean and Olympian. Oh yes, is there different batch of LO2x ? like the 5xxx series, 6xxx series and 71xx series. Are they different batch of Leyland Olympian like VO2x got Batch 1 to 4 ? And what are - ONTL11.2R - AN68.2R ?Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Wow! This is a tall order! I'd suggest you get a copy of Mr. Mike Davis' new book. The answers are all inside; a real treasure trove. -
how much?Originally posted by CAIX:Yes, I'm waiting for his book to be delivered. I have already ordered. As well, thanks for the information. IMO, SBS uses most of the leyland buses in the past. The last of the NAC DD Leyland is Leyland Atlantean and Olympian. Oh yes, is there different batch of LO2x ? like the 5xxx series, 6xxx series and 71xx series. Are they different batch of Leyland Olympian like VO2x got Batch 1 to 4 ? And what are - ONTL11.2R - AN68.2R ? -
Yes, and they are in SBS Leisure Livery (Those "Wave" Patterns)Originally posted by JJxJJ:2000 to around 2002? not very sure though.. this sv. used DM CAC MB0405s
See Here - http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/whatsnew_30june2003.asp -
See his website - http://www.BooksDTS.co.ukOriginally posted by JJxJJ:how much? -
1st DD in Singapore
taken from National Day 2005 commemorative CD -
I remember ex-service 92 had alot of MK3 back in the early 90s. But I'm not sure these MK3s were from BBDEP or ARBP.Originally posted by iveco:Also, was 92 (CLE-PLAB) from BBDEP or ARBP?
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I don't know when service 184A was introduced. It was withdrawn sometime in 2003 when the right turn from Clementi Rd into Ngee Ann Poly was removed due to the new flyover.Originally posted by 105090:i chanced upon a website, and needs to know some answers to:
when was there TIBS Sv 184A (Ends At Ngee Ann Poly) i even saw a photo of it inside NP..
and when did sv712A (P.Sakra) operates or exists?
Service 712A? I had not known of any SWT on the Jurong Island services. -
Leyland was the leading bus manufacturer at that time. The earlier orders of Leyland chassis was so that there would be a conformity of parts between the various models, a practice that still carry on today, albeit with the company which 'swallowed' Leyland.Originally posted by CAIX:Yes, I'm waiting for his book to be delivered. I have already ordered. As well, thanks for the information. IMO, SBS uses most of the leyland buses in the past. The last of the NAC DD Leyland is Leyland Atlantean and Olympian. Oh yes, is there different batch of LO2x ? like the 5xxx series, 6xxx series and 71xx series. Are they different batch of Leyland Olympian like VO2x got Batch 1 to 4 ? And what are - ONTL11.2R - AN68.2R ?
There wasn't any different batch of 2-axle Leyland Olympians. All 200 units were introduced from 1986-1988. The different registration grouping was to denote which depot the bus belongs to, which is not practiced today.
There's only 1 batch of 2-axle Volvo Olympian; 100 of them introduced in 1994. There are, officially, 3 orders of 12m Volvo Olympians. The first 200 units were introduced from 1994-1995. The next 201 from 1996-1997 and the remaining 70 in 1998. Our local bus enthusiasts classify them into the various 'batches' for easier reference as each 'batch' has their unique differences.
ONTL11.2R and AN68.2R are the chassis codes for the Leyland Olympian and Atlantean respectively.
ON = Olympian
AN = Atlantean
TL11 = Leyland TL11 engine
68 = Leyland O.680 engine
2 = 5639 mm wheelbase
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Oh... OK I see... Thank you for explaining.
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Wow ! These are the Atlanteans, isn't ?Originally posted by SBS9828X:1st DD in Singapore -
That happened to 74A as wellOriginally posted by tranquilice:I don't know when service 184A was introduced. It was withdrawn sometime in 2003 when the right turn from Clementi Rd into Ngee Ann Poly was removed due to the new flyover.
Service 712A? I had not known of any SWT on the Jurong Island services. -
yes, the 1st batch that came in 1977Originally posted by CAIX:Wow ! These are the Atlanteans, isn't ?
BACO body
Aft serving 140 in 1990, it was sold to Guangzhou
The ugliest SBS bus ever had
The NDP CD, any other bus pic?
The bus was manual transmission -
ill check again... btw its very hard. Its using macromedia for viewingOriginally posted by sbst275:yes, the 1st batch that came in 1977
BACO body
Aft serving 140 in 1990, it was sold to Guangzhou
The ugliest SBS bus ever had
The NDP CD, any other bus pic?
The bus was manual transmission -
Originally posted by tranquilice:I don't know when service 184A was introduced. It was withdrawn sometime in 2003 when the right turn from Clementi Rd into Ngee Ann Poly was removed due to the new flyover.
Service 74A was not withdrawn, if this is what you mean.Originally posted by sbst275:That happened to 74A as well
http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/whatsnew_17march2003.asp -
74A was finally withdrawn soon after, as it was no much difference between it and the Original full route 74. since NP is quite close to Buona Vista already..Originally posted by tranquilice:Service 74A was not withdrawn, if this is what you mean. http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/whatsnew_17march2003.asp -
The bus in the middle (SBS 5337Y) had a Metal Sections body. The one to its left was the British Aluminium Company (BACo) body. It workings were not confined to 140 as they had been deployed on other services as well such as 133, 132 and 159 to name few. Their 5XXX registration suggests that they were based at Ang Mo Kio Depot.Originally posted by sbst275:yes, the 1st batch that came in 1977
BACO body
Aft serving 140 in 1990, it was sold to Guangzhou
The ugliest SBS bus ever had
The NDP CD, any other bus pic?
The bus was manual transmission
The first Atlanteans had a SCG 350 epicyclic gearbox with fully automatic control. Later Atlanteans were fitted with the Leyland Pneumocyclic gearbox, also with fully automatic control. -
is o3o5 steering wheel different from o4o5?
when did the volvo steering wheel we see currently was first introduced...
How did the Albion Viking steering wheel look like? Did it look like Leyland's?