Nostalgia on Buses
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In that case, I'm sure what you saw was an Atlantean as the Olympians were still up and running at that time. The wire mesh for the engine at the rear was a clear giveaway. The bus is gone now.Originally posted by tranquilice:My visit was sometime in late 2002. -
That is not the whole story. For decades, STC held a monopoly to work within the city limits while the Chinese bus operators work the outlying districts. In April 1971, the 10 Chinese bus companies were amalgamated into 3. Each were given a sector of the island and the city to serve but the STC was left with its traditional central sector. With its monopoly rights repealed, the STC had no important role to play because much of its revenue comes from passengers who board at the city boundary from the outer sub-urban services, which were not allowed to penetrate deep into STC territory.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:Not forgetting about 'The Great STC Strike' in the 1950s.
In 1971, there were 4 amalgamated bus companies, then subsequently reduced to 3:
Singapore Traction Company (STC)
Amalgamated Bus Company (ABC)
Associated Bus Services (ABS)
United Bus Co. (UBC)
After its reorganisation, STC does not improve on its standard, poor frequency, irregular fare structure & bus routes and no proper bus shelters. STC had to closed down its operations as it suffers great financial losses.
Some of STC routes were given to UBC in 1971 when STC closed down.
Its unfair to say that STC have poor standards. The bus engineering staff built up an efficient and standardised bus fleet and much of the priciples established by STC are still carried out today. The demise of STC was mainly due to poor management of the commercial side of the business, which failed to obtain a proper share of routes in the re-orginasation. Hence, the company went into liquidation within months of the re-org.
The 3 amalgamated companies were no better. They were more interested with their own profit and refused to co-operate with one another. The transport situation worsened until the government put a firm hand into the matter and brought everything into a single entity in November 1973. -
SBS only held the monopoly on bus services for 10 years. In 1983, the late Ong Teng Cheong allowed the start-up Tibs to take over the northern sector routes. Since then, Tibs had been on an expansion drive. The award of the NEL to SBS screwed their plans for expanding into the northeastern corner.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:That is not the whole story. For decades, STC held a monopoly to work within the city limits while the Chinese bus operators work the outlying districts. In April 1971, the 10 Chinese bus companies were amalgamated into 3. Each were given a sector of the island and the city to serve but the STC was left with its traditional central sector. With its monopoly rights repealed, the STC had no important role to play because much of its revenue comes from passengers who board at the city boundary from the outer sub-urban services, which were not allowed to penetrate deep into STC territory.
Its unfair to say that STC have poor standards. The bus engineering staff built up an efficient and standardised bus fleet and much of the priciples established by STC are still carried out today. The demise of STC was mainly due to poor management of the commercial side of the business, which failed to obtain a proper share of routes in the re-orginasation. Hence, the company went into liquidation within months of the re-org.
The 3 amalgamated companies were no better. They were more interested with their own profit and refused to co-operate with one another. The transport situation worsened until the government put a firm hand into the matter and brought everything into a single entity in November 1973. -
SBS became public listed company in 1978.Originally posted by SBS9611D:SBS only held the monopoly on bus services for 10 years. In 1983, the late Ong Teng Cheong allowed the start-up Tibs to take over the northern sector routes. Since then, Tibs had been on an expansion drive. The award of the NEL to SBS screwed their plans for expanding into the northeastern corner. -
1977 route for 307 (Blue Arrow) did not start from Bedok South Rd and end at Tomlinson Rd. Post being corrected.
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The picture of MB O303 on AIRCON 168 can also be found in the Singapore Bus Handbook.Originally posted by The_Bus_Guide:Despite popular belief, that Mercedes was actually an OF1413 chassis. It was assembled by Cycle & Carriage and made to look like an O302. The real O303 has much better styling, for eg. squarish headlights, and a V8 engine. Below is a picture of a Mercedes O303.
http://suhirman.fotopic.net/p13910199.html
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Really? Wow, that's cool. Only thing is that they are not O303s.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:The picture of MB O303 on AIRCON 168 can also be found in the Singapore Bus Handbook. -
They didn't sound like an O.303. The body did look more like an O.302, but the O.302 was quite gutless anyway. However, I do remember them as being manual buses, so maybe they were an O.302 with a downrated engine?
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I know it actually be MB O302s but the book is stated as MB O303 (SABS).
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Not forgetting about Tibs Hino RK 176!! It was brought to Tibs in 1983 with first 2 svcs took over from SBS Transit: Svc 160 & 167, and later Svc 161, 164, 169, 178, 180, 181, 182, 204, 208 & 372.
The SBS MB OF 1417 were then leased to Tibs as Tibs were short of buses, pending the arrival of additional new vehicles. SBS1632X, SBS5574D, SBS5576Z, SBS5577X and SBS5583G were the examples. -
I know in 2000, I witnessed a NAC bus serving NR1 (Hino HT 238K) - TIB340B & TIB344R
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Wow a NAC bus on NR1 thats cool.Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:I know in 2000, I witnessed a NAC bus serving NR1 (Hino HT 238K) - TIB340B & TIB344R
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wah! veri special u noe.
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TYPES OF BUSES THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO SBS IN 1973.
1. Albion Viking VK41L
2. Albion Viking EVK41L
3. Albion Viking EVK41UL
4. Albion Viking EVK41AL
5. Ashok-Leyland ALCOP 3/1 Comet
6. British-built Leyland Comet 13C/6RP
7. Austin 1100FF
8. Bedford SB
9. Berliet PGK205 3RD
10. Fargo — Kew KS600
11. Ford R192 & R226
12. Mercedes-Benz LP1113
13. Mercedes-Benz OF1113
14. Mercedes-Benz OF1413
15. Nissan RX102 & 4R94
16. Seddon Pennine 354U
17. Isuzu BR351P
TYPES OF BUSES THAT WERE PURCHASED BY SBS IN THE 1ST GENERATION.
1. Albion Viking EVK55CL
2. Albion Viking EVK55AL
3. Albion Viking EVK55CUL
4. Guy (Leyland) Victory
5. Volvo B57
6. Mercedes-Benz OF1417
7. Leyland Atlantean AN68/2R (1977)
DEMONSTRATION BUSES THAT WERE PURCHASED BY SBS IN THE 1ST GENERATION.
1. Ford type B1617 (SBS4664J)
2. Isuzu BDTIZCHSS (SBS1517X)
3. Nissan UAZDN (SBS4687T)
4. Nissan U21SXN (SBS2452S)
5. Leyland Leopard PSU5C/2R (SBS6791L)
6. Leyland National 2 (SBS6820L)
7. Leyland Lynx B22.L10.Z.R (SBS3572Y)
8. Renault PR 100-2 (SBS30P)
9. MAN 16.240 HOCL (SBS81S)
All information can be found in the book:
'SINGAPORE BUSES Vol. 1, SINGAPORE BUS SERVICE Part One, DTS Publishing, May 2005. -
Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:
are there pictures on the above buses inside the book?
[b]TYPES OF BUSES THAT WERE TRANSFERRED TO SBS IN 1973.
1. Albion Viking VK41L
2. Albion Viking EVK41L
3. Albion Viking EVK41UL
4. Albion Viking EVK41AL
5. Ashok-Leyland ALCOP 3/1 Comet
6. British-built Leyland Comet 13C/6RP
7. Austin 1100FF
8. Bedford SB
9. Berliet PGK205 3RD
10. Fargo — Kew KS600
11. Ford R192 & R226
12. Mercedes-Benz LP1113
13. Mercedes-Benz OF1113
14. Mercedes-Benz OF1413
15. Nissan RX102 & 4R94
16. Seddon Pennine 354U
17. Isuzu BR351P
TYPES OF BUSES THAT WERE PURCHASED BY SBS IN THE 1ST GENERATION.
1. Albion Viking EVK55CL
2. Albion Viking EVK55AL
3. Albion Viking EVK55CUL
4. Guy (Leyland) Victory
5. Volvo B57
6. Mercedes-Benz OF1417
7. Leyland Atlantean AN68/2R (1977)
DEMONSTRATION BUSES THAT WERE PURCHASED BY SBS IN THE 1ST GENERATION.
1. Ford type B1617 (SBS4664J)
2. Isuzu BDTIZCHSS (SBS1517X)
3. Nissan UAZDN (SBS4687T)
4. Nissan U21SXN (SBS2452S)
5. Leyland Leopard PSU5C/2R (SBS6791L)
6. Leyland National 2 (SBS6820L)
7. Leyland Lynx B22.L10.Z.R (SBS3572Y)
8. Renault PR 100-2 (SBS30P)
9. MAN 16.240 HOCL (SBS81S)
All information can be found in the book:
'SINGAPORE BUSES Vol. 1, SINGAPORE BUS SERVICE Part One, DTS Publishing, May 2005.[/b] -
I just remembered this. Svc 189 used to have this extra side desto that used to say that SBS (sic) was recruiting and people who are interested could take the bus to the depot (189 passes by Bukit Batok depot) and ask for more info.
Come to think of it, buses used to have 2 side desto placeholders for some reason. This was about 10 years ago, I think. -
Hm....I wonder where is the document kindly shared by tranquilIce regarding the history and amendments to all services...
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there was also bus advertisements with the malay fella in dark green shirt also used as a recruitment tool.. services 159 used to have these advertisements, since it passes by Braddell.Originally posted by PhyrePhox:I just remembered this. Svc 189 used to have this extra side desto that used to say that SBS (sic) was recruiting and people who are interested could take the bus to the depot (189 passes by Bukit Batok depot) and ask for more info.
Come to think of it, buses used to have 2 side desto placeholders for some reason. This was about 10 years ago, I think.
the 2 place holders, i guess was because buses then keep changing route numbers within a day or something, but now they keep the destos inside the bus instead.
once on SBS3578G it was serving 315, then switch to 317 alternatively, so 2 plates 2 holders. the mk2 and Scanias have them, and so does the LO2x LA MB O305. the LA has them one above each other i think. now no more maybe becos ppl from faraway may see 2 plates instead of one, so maybe confusiion arises -
The 2 side desto holders, were not meant for the above. SBS have introduced some best services awards more than 10 years ago. awarding some services best services of the month. And these services got to display a side plate (which is gold in colour i think), indicating it is best service of the month. That why there is two side desto plate.... SV155 once got this best service award.Originally posted by 105090:the 2 place holders, i guess was because buses then keep changing route numbers within a day or something, but now they keep the destos inside the bus instead.
once on SBS3578G it was serving 315, then switch to 317 alternatively, so 2 plates 2 holders. the mk2 and Scanias have them, and so does the LO2x LA MB O305. the LA has them one above each other i think. now no more maybe becos ppl from faraway may see 2 plates instead of one, so maybe confusiion arises -
Show me the Ticket or a pix and i'll believe what youve said...Originally posted by Apex-LW'21:I know in 2000, I witnessed a NAC bus serving NR1 (Hino HT 238K) - TIB340B & TIB344R -
http://sg.geocities.com/tranquilice/Route.doc Updated as at 3 Oct 2005.Originally posted by supremebull:Hm....I wonder where is the document kindly shared by tranquilIce regarding the history and amendments to all services... -
not too sure there, but i remembered many buses use them to put 2 destos in the late 90sOriginally posted by lemon1974:The 2 side desto holders, were not meant for the above. SBS have introduced some best services awards more than 10 years ago. awarding some services best services of the month. And these services got to display a side plate (which is gold in colour i think), indicating it is best service of the month. That why there is two side desto plate.... SV155 once got this best service award. -
Most of those buses were from the "PS generation" (arrived between 1987 & 1993).Originally posted by 105090:not too sure there, but i remembered many buses use them to put 2 destos in the late 90s -
question for svc 13:Originally posted by tranquilice:http://sg.geocities.com/tranquilice/Route.doc Updated as at 3 Oct 2005.
i noticed that svc 13 was originally a kg chai chee to ghim moh service originally, and that it was extended to bedok interchange when chai chee terminal was demolished. afterwards, it became a bedok - ghim moh service. when did the service change to the previous Eunos - Yio Chu Kang service? was the service re-introduced?
Service 15: Re-introduced in 1995. Between Pasir Ris interchange and Eunos interchange. In 1997, merged with service M4 and extended to Marine Parade. Used to ply Marine Cres in both directions and Marine Terrace towards Pasir Ris, sectors deleted later. --> i believe this service only plied marine crescent for both directions only, never did ply marine terrace for return trip to pasir ris.
Service 18: Loop service between Tampines interchange and Bedok interchange. No route change. --> service 18 was originally a Bedok - Tampines St 22 loop service. service was extended to tampines interchange via ave 2, ave 7, central 3 and central 1 when it was opened, skipping tampines st 22 totally, and amended to become a tampines interchange to bedok interchange loop service.
Service 62: Between Hougang South interchange and Rumah Tinggi terminal, shortened to New Bridge Rd terminal in 1993. On Sunday 07 Dec 2003, amended to ply as a loop service between Punggol temporary interchange and Lor 1 Geylang, under NEL rationalisation phase 3. --> service 62 was amended to hougang south interchange due to the abolishment of macpherson terminal in 1992 i think, skipping macpherson estate totally. svc 63 was then introduced to cover the lost link.
Service 290: Feeder service between Tampines interchange and Simei St 3. On Sunday 07 Apr 2002, merged with service 220 to become service 38. --> original svc 290 had skipped simei street 4
Service 292: Feeder service between Tampines interchange and Tampines St 22. No route change. --> original svc 292 did not ply tampines st 11
Service 293: Feeder service between Tampines interchange and Tampines St 84. In 1996, merged with service 297 to become Townlink service 293. In 1997, extended to St 71 via Ave 8 and Ave 5, skipping St 81 and St 84. --> original svc 293 plied tampines interchange to tampines street 81 only, later extended to tampines street 84.
Service 297: Feeder service between Tampines interchange and Tampines St 45. In 1996, merged with service 293 to become Townlink service 293. --> original svc 297 plied between tampines interchange to tampines street 42, via central 1, central 3, ave 7, ave 9, st 42, ave 7, central 3 and central 1, before being extended to cover further the northern part of the estate.[/b] -
Yes. Of course. Go to Woodlands Library or Lee Kong Chian LibraryOriginally posted by 105090:are there pictures on the above buses inside the book?